=Barrett;602747]You still have not been able to comprehend what exactly the terrorists want . They dont want you sit and home and accept their ideology because there is no ideology it is only a cover for the bigger political goal of some, everything that has happened in the past few years Taliban has taken responsibility in a flash, isnt that surprising?
Nothing will comprehend to you as you said it your self you beleive in that rant of conspircay theorys.
The ideology you think they want to impose is their own version of Islam which is absolutely absurd, extreme and totally anti American, anti who?
I don't see how, do you? I hope you know what I mean.
yes i got it and thank you for your honesty finally !
They want to kill civilians at whatever opportunity they get and as a result destroy businesses, inject frustration and hatred in the hearts and minds of people and this is when they are easiest to be manipulated and brainwashed, divide them and use them for their own goals eventually cripple the economy, plunge the nation into chaos and civil war, weaken the Army and state apparatus to the extent the country disintegrates into smaller pieces who can not pose any threat to them.
Who are they ??
A country where emotions run high the literacy rate is around 45% how do you expect the people to react if a bomb goes off on a religious and very emotional event where one sect is taking out a procession?
yeh i knw you are trying to fit your conspiracy theory again. This happens in Khi every time in all events.
And what has that earned us so far, what have we achieved
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Look be honest and just say it you have a bigger problem with Moharam procession's than any thing else!!? i can now see where you are coming from, however still answer you query its not about what is acheived from Moharam procession Its about protecting state and civil society from this false and imported idealogy, 10th Moharam has been declared national holiday by the state of Pakistan since its existence, people have the right to do what they have been doing , and no body can threat them so stop it nor any one should suggest to stop !!!!
Wars are not won or lost by taking out processions, wars are won by winning the hearts and minds by your acts.
you win hearts and mind by giving people the freedom to what they want not by stoping their procession.
Take out a procession where there is no shia or sunni only Pakistanis and there is no flag other then that of Pakistan
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you got me lost here ?? please explain wht do you mean here?
You protest against something that happened more then 1,000 years ago, fine but why dont you protest against something that was happening the very moment when the procession was taken out. Where were Haq and Batil when 4,000 shops were burnt, why didnt the thousands of people present there stop the ones torching peoples only source of income? Im sure you out numbered them 100 to 1.
again you are mising the point or confusing other people does is ! its a national holiday declared by the state since its existence , if you want an explanation why they do it ? go find a religious forum and ask them. shop burnt is a absurd and every one is condemning it ,those who have done their is cctv footage with faces , action to be taken by GOP!
How many more innocent people will die in the name of religion?
you tell me since you seem to support Talibans and extermist ideaolgy ?
I am not trying to take this conversation anywhere or flaming it neither am I trying to twist things, I have only posted my views and made it clear in every post that I dont wish to offend anyone. I have great respect for every belief but no one can take the right from me to think freely and express my views and everyone is welcome to disagree with me. I dont intend to impose my thoughts nor am I in any position to do that. It is for the readers of the forum to decide what is right or wrong in their opinion based on their beliefs.
yeh i agree with your first point , this conversation isnt going any where !
Brother as I said earlier nothing is 100% safe but we still try to take whatever measures possible to ensure maximum security. People die in road accidents everyday but we still wear seat belts. GHQ was attacked so what should we do? Make the Generals sit in open or beef up the security?
dont mix irrelevant road accident with a sucide attack on religious events which is practiced by masses.
Islam is not an irrational or emotional religion, everything is based on logic and logic [
B]says you are bound to get hit on an event like this.[/QUOTE[/B]]
Please show me where does it says in Islam you are bound to get hit on an event like this ??
Yes we are fighting an ideology, who is stopping you to do that? Yes these people are no RAW or CIA they are Pakistanis who are manipulated and funded by our enemies. We need to unite here instead of splitting further. Lets concentrate on the teachings of Islam and not cultural rituals.
You are contradicting your own statement above you are saying its a conpiracy where as now you have a different defination ! Unity is indeed required BUT stopping the people from their religious practice will not acheive such. You have explained your self by defining Moharam processions as cultural rituals , this is some thing which will incite more hatred so try doing the right thing instead of coming up with this silly cermon of urs where you are saying some thing above and contradicting yourself later. !!
Once again I want to make it clear that my intention is not to offend anyone in any way. I am only posting my views and what I think is in the larger interest of my country and my fellow countrymen. May god unite us and protect my country that is all I have to say.:pakistan
this is just another contradiction to your own statement. I am not going to bother reply you again as you prety much clearfied in your statement in a hipocritical manner that have more problem with Moharam processions than any thing ,and just because your cousins shop is burnt ,you are protesting here to stop Processions.
