EXCLUSIVE: Indian Navy's New Destroyer 'Kochi' Revealed

[Echo_419]

I would personally like some names with fearful meanings especially ancient ones.. Like naming after Akbar, Ashoka, Sher Shah Suri, Hemu, Cholas etc. We dont have a dearth of history. Do we?

We can do that too

 

[temp1994]

I would personally like some names with fearful meanings especially ancient ones.. Like naming after Akbar, Ashoka, Sher Shah Suri, Hemu, Cholas etc. We dont have a dearth of history. Do we?

I think Ships should be named after ancient India monarchs, rather than medieval ones.

Pure Sanskrit name like Amoghvarsha , Pradhumanya, Rudradaman, Pulkeshin ,Chandragupta, Rajaraja Chola sound much more badass than Hindi/Urdu/farsi names. Languages have a personality;Sanskrit (like German) need much more rolling of tongue than Hindi and has a warlike and utilitarian characteristic which make it much better suited for scientific output and warmongering; French, Italian, and Persian are better at romantic rendering. This does not mean that one language could not be used for another purpose, just that a language is more natural in one form than other. When I read Sanskrit names of monarchs like Rudradaman , it immediately conveys a sense of grandeur. Name like Akbar and Hemu does not.

 

[Argon Prime]

Your post just shows you are a fanboy nothing more.

Those boats are not meant to attack CBG they are for littoral security, just part of system of PN.

Tech gap and capabilities gap as per doctrines adopted by both Navies is reducing, no matter how much you buy we are purchasing equipment as per required doctrine adopted to counter IN's capabilities.

Do not flatter yourself that much boyo,cause in the event of any future confrontations,we won't even be using the IN ships to counter your PN surface fleet.There is a reason we have built up a sizable inventory of 3M-54E Klub and Kh 35 Uran missiles,despite of having have the capability to manufacture the PJ 10 variants.20 Su 30MKIs,each armed with 3X Klub/ Brahmos Mini will be enough to send the entire PN surface fleet under the Arabian sea,if the situation really calls for it.And with the PN ships lacking any worthwhile anti air capability,the above mentioned missiles won't face much hurdles in their way to scoring their marks on those ships.

 

[$@rJen]

Really the name of Kochi and Chennai on warships looks lame.. THey should have a commitee on naming.

What's your suggestion???

Name them after kings?? or some offensive words?

 

[GR!FF!N]

AShBM may be in future but not now, now big bro of CM-400AKG (land / ship based) is possible but YJ-12/18 are good platforms.

it is when you're not facing Defensive Fighter Screen and advanced Anti Air Defence System..CBGs generally employ multi layer air defence,that is why it is hard to hit.anyway,India possibly never going to use CBGs against Pakistan as it has no use at all.

 

[Bilal9]

Do not flatter yourself that much boyo,cause in the event of any future confrontations,we won't even be using the IN ships to counter your PN surface fleet.There is a reason we have built up a sizable inventory of 3M-54E Klub and Kh 35 Uran missiles,despite of having have the capability to manufacture the PJ 10 variants.20 Su 30MKIs,each armed with 3X Klub/ Brahmos Mini will be enough to send the entire PN surface fleet under the Arabian sea,if the situation really calls for it.And with the PN ships lacking any worthwhile anti air capability,the above mentioned missiles won't face much hurdles in their way to scoring their marks on those ships.

You seem so sure of yourself there Mr. Armchair Admiral? ....

I doubt if PN didn't consider this scenario and their ships actually lack 'worthwhile anti air capability'.

Anti-air is one of the first defenses a ship equips itself with.

What about MANPADs? AK630/306?

 

[$@rJen]

Don't worry from subsonic to hypersonic every thing will be presented from breakfast to dinner, and our UAVs, UCAVs, UUVs & UUAVs will also be there to serve you round the clock with other stuff.

Oh.. you should be worried.. because your sub sonic can be shot down very easily byy B-8.. you don't have a hypersonic. Jf won't pass through migs and Mki's... and Rafael will be picking out radar and sam sites near the coast.

UAV...UCAV.. What bauraq is going to attack a cbg from 500km?? can it even come closer to i don't know 200km of cbg???

 

[cirr]

What percentage of this ship in value is foreign？

50%？70%？80%？90%？

 

[GR!FF!N]

You seem so sure of yourself there Mr. Armchair Admiral? ....

I doubt if PN didn't consider this scenario and their ships actually lack 'worthwhile anti air capability'.

Anti-air is one of the first defenses a ship equips itself with.

What about MANPADs? AK630/306?

sorry to crash in,but it is known that nobody use "Manpad" to shoot a supersonic missile.and AK-630 or similar kind of super rapid gun's capability is very much limited.Reminds me one incident where super rapid gun failed to take down a subsonic drone and the drone hit the ship.

Navy Ship Struck By Malfunctioning Drone During Training

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[Argon Prime]

You seem so sure of yourself there Mr. Armchair Admiral? ....

Just because you remain willfully ignorant,it doesn't in any way make me,what you call an 'armchair admiral' or anything,simpleton.I'm not among those,(with you being one of 'those' persons,judging by the quality of your posts in this thread),who would clap his trap without knowing zilch about the topic of discussion and make a mockery of himself in the process,be rest assured.

I doubt if PN didn't consider this scenario

Sure they have considered this scenario,it's a very much of a possibility and they being the professionals and all.But the fact is,they simply do not have a deep enough pocket to cater for the necessary counter measures.Too bad,so sad.

and their ships actually lack 'worthwhile anti air capability'.

I suggest you educate yourself before notifying us of your doubt.

Anti-air is one of the first defenses a ship equips itself with.

Good suggestion,now send it to the PN top brass.

What about MANPADs? AK630/306?

MANPADs and CIWS against a saturation attack by inbound mach 3 missiles??Why don't you just suggest using of RPG 7s and GPMGs to do the job??

 

[Echo_419]

What percentage of this ship in value is foreign？

50%？70%？80%？90%？

Less than Chinese

 

[Argon Prime]

UAV:

MALE UCAV is coming very soon but will not be disclosed soon like burraq.

And those MALE UCAVs will be virtually useless against a ship of the size bigger than that of a patrol boat!!

UUV/UUAVs:

How far those can be detected by IN's surface fleets?

Long before they can detect the IN ships,rest assured.Had you actually known anything about the type of advanced solid state active sonars,all IN ships are being retrofitted with,you wouldn't have made this childish assertion and could have saved you from being the laughing stock to the actual knowledgeable members.

AWACS/MPA:

Both can work together to get better picture and earlier can detect ships @ 450kms while later can strike ships @ 125kms.

And the 450 km that you state,is way too much of an overstretch for a multitude of reasons,but knowing the type of a nincompoop you are,I can't really say I'm surprised.And even if we are to take your statement for face value,it still doesn't mean anything.Cause detection alone doesn't count for shit!!In order to get scan and identify the target,one needs more power than that needed for detection,which means your AWACS would have to come closer.Then once after you have identified your targets as enemies,then the radar needs to track it in order to get a missile lock and for that,the platform has to come even closer.Practically,the AWACS can not reliably track a ship of the size of a DDG at more than 200 km due to a multitude of reasons and at that range,you can kiss your AWACS good bye.............the carrier borne fighters would literally eat it alive.

SAT:
China is providing whatever support is needed to counter Indian advices in this field, Pakistan can utilized whatever they field.

As many Indian boosted their SAT capabilities of tracking ships and other Pakistani assets but they forgot that China is ahead and ready to share.

The earth observation sats in low earth orbits,can not track a target for obvious reasons.That's why I keep telling you guys to get a proper education before clapping your traps.

 

[rezangahir]

What percentage of this ship in value is foreign？

50%？70%？80%？90%？

100 % free from reverese engineered crap (c 802 )that can't even sink a freaking 1000 ton frigrate . LET ALONE 8000 TON DESTROYER

INS Hanit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And lamo at the name C 802

 

[Basel]

Oh.. you should be worried.. because your sub sonic can be shot down very easily byy B-8.. you don't have a hypersonic. Jf won't pass through migs and Mki's... and Rafael will be picking out radar and sam sites near the coast.

UAV...UCAV.. What bauraq is going to attack a cbg from 500km?? can it even come closer to i don't know 200km of cbg???

@Penguin will like to have your opinion on above and below posts.

Do not flatter yourself that much boyo,cause in the event of any future confrontations,we won't even be using the IN ships to counter your PN surface fleet.There is a reason we have built up a sizable inventory of 3M-54E Klub and Kh 35 Uran missiles,despite of having have the capability to manufacture the PJ 10 variants.20 Su 30MKIs,each armed with 3X Klub/ Brahmos Mini will be enough to send the entire PN surface fleet under the Arabian sea,if the situation really calls for it.And with the PN ships lacking any worthwhile anti air capability,the above mentioned missiles won't face much hurdles in their way to scoring their marks on those ships.

 

[$@rJen]

@Basel

Dude.. there's something you need to understand.. NCW needs lots of resources from space,air,land and sea...and in quality and quantity Pakistan doesn't have them..

All those UAV and UCAV's can do little in the land war but not in the ocean where CBG is based 500km away from your shore. One best thing you've is those AShM.. forget about the ones in the land becasue they won't do the job.. CBG is not going to come in its rang.. and if our ships plans to assault the shore/port.. IAF/IN fighter will be asked to clear them.. and this is one of the main reason IAF is dying to induct the Rafael,Mki's can do the same job but its rcs is huge.

So you're left with fighter to bring the AShM's.. for that a figher needs to come near the cbg.. you need to cross the Migs layer then the carriers escorts.. we've tested the Barak-8 against brahMos.. It's not easy to hit a carrier