Evidences that Tibet is part of China

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Why make such a fuss. Tibet is and will remain a part of China as Kashmir is and will remain part of Pakistan.

That is an interesting thought!

 

[SABRE]

Again, by your logic, the Brits can reoccupy Hong Kong whenever they feel like in the future.

Hmm ... Interesting. How? You mean militarily or politically? (Serious answer plz).

 

[SABRE]

I can give a far better reasons as to why Indonesia, Thailand, Bhutan, Nepal, Burma, Pakistan and Sri Lanka are a part of India.

Not to start a huge argument. The region started with the Indus Valley Civilization. There were two major cities from where this civilizations spurred up - The Harappa in Pakistani Punjab & the Moen-jo-Daro in Sindh, Pakistan. The name Indus comes from River Indus. Which river Indus? The one which crosses from Punjab into Sindh - the largest tributary.

This means India owes its name & existence to Pakistan side Punjab & Sindh. Since both are now provinces of Pakistan, Pakistan inherits the Indian existence & also the true rights to its name "India".

In this logic, India belongs to Pakistan. Adding to your logic, darn much of the Asia now belongs to Pakistan.

As for Tibet; culturally, ethnically & linguistically it is more closer to Hans than Indians. In fact I don't see anything similar between Tibet people & Indians. For hundreds of years Tibet remained under Han's suzerainty & acted as buffer zone. Than finally Manchu Ching Dynasty fully incorporated Tibet into the empire & for 200 years it has been so. Lost briefly during British time but regained by the Communists.

Mandate of Heaven of the Empror Qin (1st emperor of China): All that is Han (Chinese) & originates from it must come under one heaven. This was thousands of years ago. His mandate included Tibet. Hence China has thousand years claim on Tibet to India's few years claim.

Anyways; there is no need for debate. Tibet is part of China & internationally recognized. But it would be continued to be used as political tool by the West & of course India. Every day story.

 

[SABRE]

In addition to the above, the Chinese Muslim admiral Xeng Hi is said to be the 1st man from the "civilized world" to discover what is today called Americas. They found his map showing the continent. There are few errors e.g: North & South America as Islands rather than connected by Mexico. But Island shapes do match the North & South America.

I think if the logic that we are following prevails than the Americas belong to China. In the similar manner the EuroAsia belongs to Mongols & Huns. & the Eastern Europe belongs to Turks.

& while we are on it, lets reestablish the Soviet Union.

The outer space would belong to the Soviets & the moon to the Americans (that is if they really landed on it).

Come to think of it, its not a bad idea to keep rolling back. Finally the time will come when there were handful of humans with neither knowledge nor interest in civilization & nation states. Peace, nothing but peace.

What a mess!!!

 

[gpit]

Very knowledgeable, indeed!

Admiral Zheng He brought with his fleet to aboriginal people with no war, no plunder, but peace (he mediated civil conflicts in Sri Lanka, which unfortunately persists to today), and trade.

He may well be the first who visited America. BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | China map lays claim to Americas

 

[gpit]

Huh? Where did the Brits come from.

Go study history.

Again, by your logic, the Brits can reoccupy Hong Kong whenever they feel like in the future.

Amazing that you lack such fundamental knowledge of history.

Of course, the Brits would very much like to take back HongKong, but they are decaying faster than expected, reducing themselves to a gut-less jackal of American Imperialists.

 

[Flintlock]

Amazing that you lack such fundamental knowledge of history.

Of course, the Brits would very much like to take back HongKong, but they are decaying faster than expected, reducing themselves to a gut-less jackal of American Imperialists.

So might is right? China has the right to take over land just because it can?

 

[gnabi]

So might is right? China has the right to take over land just because it can?

Do you have any doubt? What is US doing in Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel in Palestine and why is India fingering Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Myanmar just to name a few.

 

[Flintlock]

Do you have any doubt? What is US doing in Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel in Palestine and why is India fingering Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Myanmar just to name a few.

I asked about China. Not US, Not ISrael, Not India, not Pakistan, and not Myanmar.

 

[SABRE]

So might is right? China has the right to take over land just because it can?

Well if India can occupy Kashmir under the might why can't China do so with Tibet. As far as we know internationally Tibet is not a disputed territory.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Instrument of Accession which is a legal document internationally is hardly annexation of Kashmir!

 

[Flintlock]

Well if India can occupy Kashmir under the might why can't China do so with Tibet. As far as we know internationally Tibet is not a disputed territory.

Why are you speaking like a politician? Why are you avoiding the question? This is not about India or Pakistan or Australia.

 

[gpit]

So might is right? China has the right to take over land just because it can?

Surely, China has the right, and the might, to fend off any evil plots or vicious activities to split HK or Tibet.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

China has the right and might to keep the Hans under tight leash too!


West China where there are Hans also are suffering and it is only the East Coast that is living off the remainder of China.

The demolition of houses for the Olympics has also got the Hans angry!

 

[gpit]

China has the right and might to keep the Hans under tight leash too!


West China where there are Hans also are suffering and it is only the East Coast that is living off the remainder of China.

The demolition of houses for the Olympics has also got the Hans angry!

Pitifully myopic as you are, yet now you can't but also agree that the Chinese, Han or Tibet or any other ethnics, can vent their unhappiness in various ways.

But why should you forgetfully neglect that your democratic forces killed your angry demonstrators months ago when electricity failed to answer their needs? Notorious double-standard?