Every One of India’s Nishant Drones Has Crashed

[Dungeness]

You are able to make such comment due to open nature of defense news in India and official briefing so that any expert or media could analyze, unlike China whose falling fighter planes like J10 with indigenous engine is tried to hidden by the state and no news comes out of any accident unless it falls to some public place.

Infact only 4 were the initial ordered, and they crashed not like 40 or 400 UAV fleet.

These days, there is nothing that can be hidden from hundreds of million Chinese internet users with a cell phone and a Wechat account. By the way, what happened to J-10 with Chinese indigenous engine? Do you know anything about it, or just pure BS?

 

[knight11]

These days, there is nothing that can be hidden from hundreds of million Chinese internet users with a cell phone and a Wechat account. By the way, what happened to J-10 with Chinese indigenous engine? Do you know anything about it, or just pure BS?

And how do you know that IA decided not to order any further Nishant drone is due to the UAV crash or why UAV crashes. Do you have insight knowledge of Drdo, Indian army or have some super natural abilities or Just making some BS troll comment without using an organ called brain.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Some idiots need to understand that PDF is an international forum and members are expected to comment in english not their village tongue. But some members here come from a region in India where women and cattle are treated the same. Cannot expect decent conduct from such dehati fools.

In fact, it is not a easy thing to do to crash an ENTIRE fleet. It must have set some kind of world record.

For DRDO impossible is nothing as long as the motive is to produce trash products. Indian Public Sector Undertakings or PSUs do not have the intelligence, skill, resources or infrastructure to manufacture world class weapons. They are so brain dead that they cannot even reverse engineer the Bofors gun nor could they make a decent 155 mm gun in over 20 years. Just how hard is it to make a 155 mm towed arty gun?

Selp-propelled howitzers don't exist in Indian army, neither domestic nor imported. Because the retards in DRDO and PSUs do not know how to make one. The abomination below is India's prototype for a self propelled gun. No self-respecting military in the world would even want to take a second look at it.

It does not have the armored protection and NBC resistant capabilities of a tracked SP gun like PzH 2000 or K-9 guns and it does not have the light-weight and speed of a wheeled SP gun like Archer or Caesar. It has the worst of both the categories. No protection and overweight.

Now coming to Tejas. In 21st century an interceptor is expected to be able to fire BVR missiles, have aerial refueling and a modern EW suite. Tejas lacks all three, has a very limited range and extremely low payload.

Nishant was a failure from the word go.

 

[Dungeness]

And how do you know that IA decided not to order any further Nishant drone is due to the UAV crash or why UAV crashes. Do you have insight knowledge of Drdo, Indian army or have some super natural abilities or Just making some BS troll comment without using an organ called brain.

AS it stands, the entire fleet of 4 nishant have crashed. is this statement correct?

By the way, IA did cancelled any further orders of Nishant.
DRDO's two-decade-old Nishant UAV programme crashes; Indian Army cancels further orders - The Economic Times

 

[Indian Patriot]

A lot of butt-hurt cry babies will now start crying when I mention this but Pakistan is much ahead of India when it comes to drones. India has many drones in its inventory but all are imported. Pakistan makes its own drones.

SATUMA Jasoos, recce drone.

GIDS Uqaab, tactical drone used for for damage assessment, reconnaissance operations, artillery fire corrections, and can perform other variety of security and military operations.

And the last one, to add insult to India's injury is the Burraq UCAV.

Pakistan this week became the world's fifth known country to use an armed drone in combat, and it can probably thank China.

Laser-guided missiles fired from the Burraq armed drone killed three "terrorists" in a mountainous region near the Afghan border on Sunday, according to Pakistan's military.

The United States, Israel, Britain and Nigeria have previously used armed drones in combat, according to publicly available information. France, Iran and the United Arab Emirates possess the capability but haven't exercised it, according to an October study led by Michael C. Horowitz, an associate professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania.


While weapons-equipped versions of unmanned aerial vehicles account for a fraction of the global trade, their share has roughly doubled in the past decade. Proliferation is set to surge with about 30 countries either developing or already possessing the capability to equip drones with weapons.

"Most states are only beginning to think about how they will use drones or respond to foreign drone use in their territory," said Kelly Sayler, an associate fellow at the Center for a New American Security. "If states decide that there is a lower threshold for the use of drones -- particularly in cross- border missions -- then drones could be quite destabilizing."

Pakistan said in March that Burraq, which was named after a flying steed ridden by the Prophet Muhammad, was developed indigenously. Many analysts, however, say it appears to be based on the CH-3 drone developed by China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp.

"They definitely had help from the Chinese," said Elizabeth Quintana, director of military sciences at the London-based Royal United Services Institute.

"The two programs are very closely linked, if not identical," said James Hardy, Asia-Pacific editor of IHS Jane's Defence Weekly.

Major General Asim Bajwa, a Pakistan military spokesman, didn't answer three calls to his mobile phone seeking further details on the development of the drone. Questions that were faxed and emailed to China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. received no reply. China's foreign ministry also didn't reply to faxed questions.

The U.S. and China are the only two nations known to have exported armed drones, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

Last month, China announced it would begin restricting exports of certain "high performance" drones over concerns they could compromise national security, Xinhua reported on Aug. 2.
"China's drone technology has reached an advanced level," said Ni Lexiong, a professor at Shanghai University of Political Science and Law, who specializes in Chinese military and diplomacy. It's possible that China exported the drone to close allies like Pakistan before the ban came into effect, he said.

Its role as an exporter of armed drones came to light in January, when a CH-3 unmanned aircraft crashed in Nigeria's Borno province, the heart of the Boko Haram insurgency. The 5.1- meter CH-3 has a 200-kilometer range and can carry a 100- kilogram payload, according to Poly Technologies Inc., which manufactures the aircraft. A woman who answered a phone call to the company's main number declined to comment, while a fax to Poly Technologies went unanswered.

The all-weather Burraq is armed with air-to-surface Barq missiles that ensure "pin point accuracy," the Pakistan military said in March when it was unveiled. It hasn't revealed any further details on its technical capabilities.

The use of armed drones gained prominence following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks as the U.S. began using them in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia. Pakistan has publicly criticized the U.S. for drone strikes on its soil.

Pakistan will now be able to target hard-to-reach places without relying on U.S. drones, said Tasneem Noorani, a former secretary at Pakistan's interior ministry.

"It's a very important improvement and development," he said.

China has often modified weapons specially for Pakistan, including missiles, the Al Khalid tank and the K-8 light combat aircraft, said Siemon Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. The Burraq may be another example.

"They look very, very similar," he said. "We're currently treating it as a transfer from China with a 'developed in Pakistan' stamp and a Pakistani name."

Pakistan Joins Exclusive Drone-Warfare Club, With Nod to China

 

[knight11]

AS it stands, the entire fleet of 4 nishant have crashed. is this statement correct?

The total order for Nishant UAV was 4 + 8. DRDO supplied 4 uav to army, and all 4 have crashed since then, and the news which is the base of this thread, is the 4th accident. With the event of the Israeli and other international UAV available, the IA finds other UAV more beneficial for its doctrine and requirement, so IA have cancelled the 8 UAV order, and looking to other supplier. This is what a healthy competition is and it will force DRDO to come up with the better product if she wants to get the order. There is nothing ashamed of. Nishant however provides DRDO the critical tech line communication, onboard and ground system, which will be used in future UAV program like MALE and HALE Rustam and Aura UAV program.

 

[Indian Patriot]

AS it stands, the entire fleet of 4 nishant have crashed. is this statement correct?

Don't waste your time with trolls.

DRDO will promise you the moon but it will only sell dirt.

 

[SipahSalar]

You are able to make such comment due to open nature of defense news in India and official briefing so that any expert or media could analyze, unlike China whose falling fighter planes like J10 with indigenous engine is tried to hidden by the state and no news comes out of any accident unless it falls to some public place.

Infact only 4 were the initial ordered, and they crashed not like 40 or 400 UAV fleet.

The guy is right. It's not a simple task to crash an entire fleet of drones. I think it has no parallel in world history of flight since the Wright brothers.

Mind you, the program was not launched yesterday. It was two decades in the making. When after 20 years of development all your drones crash, you deserve a special kind of reward.

 

[gslv mk3]

The guy is right. It's not a simple task to crash an entire fleet of drones. I think it has no parallel in world history of flight since the Wright brothers.

Any more idiotic remarks.

And the last one, to add insult to India's injury is the Burraq UCAV.

This has nothing to do with CH 3 right ?

Change your flags,fag.

 

[Indian Patriot]

This has nothing to do with CH 3 right ?

Change your flags,fag.

Use words like "fag" in your home which you picked up there. In civilised society such words are not used, did nobody teach you that FAG?

 

[gslv mk3]

Use words like "fag" in your home which you picked up there. In civilised society such words are not used, did nobody teach you that FAG?

Shut up fag

 

[MastanKhan]

“In the past DRDO has blamed poor handling by the Army for the loss of at least two systems,” the Economic Times reported. “However, the Army has contended that the system has failed to perform and has technical problemsduring the recovery phase that have not been sorted out.”

To the Army’s credit, it already operates dozens of Israeli drones with no apparent troubles. Retired Lt. Gen. P.C. Katoch, who led the Indian Army’s information systems directorate, blasted the DRDO for a “gross lack of accountability,” producing “schoolboy level” inventions and then bragging about its accomplishments with “false propaganda.”

“For their part, the DRDO in its usual manner has blamed the user for poor handling of the system, a point categorically denied by the Army,” Katoch wrote at SP’s Aviation magazine. “The irony is that this game has been [going] on for decades with no one held accountable in the DRDO.”

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Hi,,

People need to understand that the DRDO scientists have families to feed and raise as well----kids need new shoes and toys---and spouses need new saris as well----so can't blame them for their progressive management life styles----.

As for Buraq---it is not only chinese-----the innards are a copy of the american drones that fell in pakistan----couple of those drones----they survived the fall with minor surface damage----.

I don't blame the DRDO for failing---because they did not have an american drone to copy----.

 

[Dungeness]

Some idiots need to understand that PDF is an international forum and members are expected to comment in english not their village tongue. But some members here come from a region in India where women and cattle are treated the same. Cannot expect decent conduct from such dehati fools.



For DRDO impossible is nothing as long as the motive is to produce trash products. Indian Public Sector Undertakings or PSUs do not have the intelligence, skill, resources or infrastructure to manufacture world class weapons. They are so brain dead that they cannot even reverse engineer the Bofors gun nor could they make a decent 155 mm gun in over 20 years. Just how hard is it to make a 155 mm towed arty gun?

Selp-propelled howitzers don't exist in Indian army, neither domestic nor imported. Because the retards in DRDO and PSUs do not know how to make one. The abomination below is India's prototype for a self propelled gun. No self-respecting military in the world would even want to take a second look at it.

It does not have the armored protection and NBC resistant capabilities of a tracked SP gun like PzH 2000 or K-9 guns and it does not have the light-weight and speed of a wheeled SP gun like Archer or Caesar. It has the worst of both the categories. No protection and overweight.

Now coming to Tejas. In 21st century an interceptor is expected to be able to fire BVR missiles, have aerial refueling and a modern EW suite. Tejas lacks all three, has a very limited range and extremely low payload.

Nishant was a failure from the word go.

DRDO doesn't enjoy a good reputation like ISRO in India. Some restructuring may be in order. I read an article written by a German engineer who happened to worked on both Type-96 and Arjun in China and in India. From his perspective, the difference between Drdo and its Chinese counterpart was astonishing. Something is wrong with your system.

 

[Indian Patriot]

@Dungeness The fact is DRDO is a failure as an organisation. But due to politics and obsolete labour laws improvements cannot be made. Employees in India's public sector cannot be fired from the job thanks to labour unions. Due to the absolute job security they have no sense of professionalism or accountability. A scientist in DRDO or HAL or any such sh1tty organisation can spend 30 years of his career "working on a project" but do nothing, build nothing and he will be drawing his salary and at the end of retirement he will get his pension. Valuable time and money is wasted by these Indian PSUs.

Maybe China did help Pakistan build drones but that is not the case. India needs UAV and UCAV and India has no domestic model. India should have approached Israel for help in joint production like they did with Barak. But doing so would have downplayed the importance of DRDO and cut off their funds. So no such move was made.

India cannot make drones on their own without foreign help.

Something is wrong with your system.

Everything is wrong, not something.

 

[knight11]

Shut up fag

Hafizzz on the high