European Roma descended from India

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most roma are settled and always have been. they dont value education that much but on the other Hand roma students face heavy discrimination by their White Peers.

original Quote from another Forum written by a bulgarian
gypos will never integrate, not only they don't want this, but we don't want that as well, I remember in my first years in school we have some gypos, they were retards, the kids spitted on them, kicked them and so on, so they soon stopped to come

my cousin was beaten in school eventhough he had good grades and was Insulted for being roma. much of discrimination against roma is based on race, i dont say roma are all angels but if they were just bad nomads but White People wouldnt hate them as much, as they do now because of racial reasons. dark Skin etc. and a common word is they should be deportet to india.

What bs, but then again, you're a gypsy.....as for the Bolgarian quote, one does wonder when they will be fed up with you. Same for Romanians. rest of Europe is similarly fed up with gypsies from those two countries that suddenly got a free pass to everywhere else so they can exploit the generous welfare system some better off countries provide.

 

[INDIC]

the chakra (hindu Symbol)

Is that wheel in Roma flag is to depict Roma origin from India?

The dharma-chakra is not a Hindu symbol but from Buddhism. The one in Indian flag is called Ashoka Chakra.

 

[Beerbal]

Yes they are our brothers, The Indian Govt should pass a resolution.. All Roma are by birth Indian citizen, they can settle to there homeland whenever they want,,,

 

[Random Boy]

What bs, but then again, you're a gypsy.....as for the Bolgarian quote, one does wonder when they will be fed up with you. Same for Romanians. rest of Europe is similarly fed up with gypsies from those two countries that suddenly got a free pass to everywhere else so they can exploit the generous welfare system some better off countries provide.

It is not bs, he said it and i would prove it with the link if i could post links. Most hate against Romas revolves around that they are a foreign race, dark skinned and inferior "dravidians" from india. they should be deported to india is the comman Slogan even by a czech political Party who said Romas should be resettled to india. they view them as foreign race and they even persecute part gypsies, similar like they persecute blacks. if they were just bad from behaviour like homeless primitive trash, but White racially those things wouldnt be a issue or debated. some say who mixes with Romas should be killed, and that it is race mixing etc. well not in the media since it is not politcally correct but socially yes. my Cousin is half Balkan european and half roma and he was beaten, the Institutions didnt helped, the teachers said he provokes the others, but he was only one guy who was made a pariah by a Group. it is common sense that it was not his fault. you say im a gypsy but i prefer the term roma, it is politcally correct. and you said when "europeans/bulgarians/romanians get fed up with gypsies" what they will do then, commit another Holocaust?

 

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@Random Boy

Villagers making a lynch mob for a local gypsy family, because the younglings and the old ones kept stealing and breaking the law:

Riot squad deployment:

Police protecting the gypsies:

the family were finally relocated from the rural area they camped on illegally and were given a newly built house on the outskirts of the capital. Discrimination indeed! btw this was just south of the border, in Slovenia, a few years ago.

BS is gypsies are discriminated due to skin color. They are discriminated because they steal and cheat. As for politically correct terms, i know gypsies, they themselves call each other "cigani", if they can call themselves that, i can call them with an English translation of it.

 

[Random Boy]

Is that wheel in Roma flag is to depict Roma origin from India?

The dharma-chakra is not a Hindu symbol but from Buddhism. The one in Indian flag is called Ashoka Chakra.

The Romani chakra wheel at the center is actually a link to the Roma's Indian origins (the 24-spoked Ashok Chakra is in the center of the national flag of India, the *Tiranga*) and represents movement and the original Creation but the wheel on our flag is the 16 spoke wheel which in India represented the 16 spokes of Gandhi's economic liberation and independence movement. The blue and green are the traditional colors with the red wheel in the center. Blue is the blue sky represents the heavens. Green is the land, organic and growing. The blue symbolizes eternal spiritual values; the green earthly values. The wheel in the center for us, symbolizes movement and progress and it is red is to honor the blood of those of us who have fallen.

 

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The wheel in the center for us, symbolizes movement and progress and it is red is to honor the blood of those of us who have fallen.

lol, progress. Progress that has been given to you. You on your own haven't made an iota of progress since the middle ages.

 

[Random Boy]

@Random Boy

Villagers making a lynch mob for a local gypsy family, because the younglings and the old ones kept stealing and breaking the law:



Riot squad deployment:




Police protecting the gypsies:



the family were finally relocated from the rural area they camped on illegally and were given a newly built house on the outskirts of the capital. Discrimination indeed!

1.a lynch mob is a remnantal practice of medieval times, it is taking law into own Hands. similar when europeans made a lynch mob to kill jews in the ghetto because they "poisened the water" or "ate a Christian Baby for shabbath". in a civilised Society lynch Mobs have no Business, if someone steals and breaks the law there is Police and Courts etc.
2.lynch Mobs are sometimes formed just by hear saying, in italy a Girl had sex with her boyfriend and didnt dared to tell her parents then she said a roma from the local Settlement raped her. and the italians formed a mob and set all the gypsies from the Settlement on fire just by hear saying. that is medieval and barbaric and it was not even true.
3.i never said Romas are discriminated or persecuted organisationaly by the government like under hitler, they have some protection by the law and even some affirmative Action for education etc. and also enjoy benefits like everyone else, but it is not always properly enforced, but socially they are discriminated yes. like students at School. lots of roma dont go to School but when they do they get beaten up sometimes. every coin has two sides, it is not only roma are bad.

 

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1.a lynch mob is a remnantal practice of medieval times, it is taking law into own Hands. similar when europeans made a lynch mob to kill jews in the ghetto because they "poisened the water" or "ate a Christian Baby for shabbath". in a civilised Society lynch Mobs have no Business, if someone steals and breaks the law there is Police and Courts etc.
2.lynch Mobs are sometimes formed just by hear saying, in italy a Girl had sex with her boyfriend and didnt dared to tell her parents then she said a roma from the local Settlement raped her. and the italians formed a mob and set all the gypsies from the Settlement on fire just by hear saying. that is medieval and barbaric and it was not even true.
3.i never said Romas are discriminated or persecuted organisationaly by the government like under hitler, they have some protection by the law and even some affirmative Action for education etc. and also enjoy benefits like everyone else, but it is not always properly enforced, but socially they are discriminated yes. like students at School. lots of roma dont go to School but when they do they get beaten up sometimes. every coin has two sides, it is not only roma are bad.

Lynch squad formed because the people were so frustrated with the inaction of the police they decided to take matters into their own hands. The police kept writing tickets and monetary punishments which of course were never paid because on paper the state cannot take from that gypsy family because they have nothing but a wooden shack in the forest. When correctional institutions came to take the children away to a juvenile correctional facility the family hid their children in the woods. then they left and a few days later again kido gypsies appeared on the village roads pushing unregistered cars with barely working brakes around bends, not minding the speed limit or if anyone was on the road.

Hilarious to be actually reading this apologist post. Quite surreal and out of touch with reality.

Even the well off gypsies i know condemned the behaviour, saying it is casting a bad light on all gypsies in the country. Among them was my friend, whos picture i posted earlier in this thread. He called them animals in the forest. Direct words.

 

[livingdead]

@Audio and @Random Boy .. you guys need to talk.. like they do here.. starting at 1:57

 

[Random Boy]

Lynch squad formed because the people were so frustrated with the inaction of the police they decided to take matters into their own hands. The police kept writing tickets and monetary punishments which of course were never paid because on paper the state cannot take from that gypsy family because they have nothing but a wooden shack in the forest. When correctional institutions came to take the children away to a juvenile correctional facility the family hid their children in the woods. then they left and a few days later again kido gypsies appeared on the village roads pushing unregistered cars with barely working brakes around bends, not minding the speed limit or if anyone was on the road.

Hilarious to be actually reading this apologist post. Quite surreal and out of touch with reality.

So all gypsies live in the Woods? I cant post Pictures or i would post a proper represantation of gypsies. Google Images were spammed by your Kind with primitive trash and photoshopped Pictures, to represent all gypsies as animals. sometimes not even gypsies but southindians saying they are gypsies. Searching for "Gypsy" is like searching for "redneck". I could post Pictures of "White Trash" and "Rednecks" living in Trailers or even naked in Woods. Once i watched a docu about a nude community in the Woods consisting of Hippie White Persons. I could post hobos and Homeless and ugly Whites without teeth and Tattooes, and very Ugly People and spamm the Internet. I cant post Pictures though nor do I want a Picture fight. Well a lynch mob is very wrong, if the Police does not enough then thats bad, the Police should do more. But I doubt the Police is very nice and loose on Gypsies. I watched a YouTube Video about Policemen in Serbia beating a Gypsy at the Police Station and he beggs them to stop.

Even the well off gypsies i know condemned the behaviour, saying it is casting a bad light on all gypsies in the country. Among them was my friend, whos picture i posted earlier in this thread. He called them animals in the forest. Direct words.

Why do you say all Gypsies are bad then though? We should judge People on Individual Basis. Give every Person a Face and treat him with human dignity. I distance myself from "hobo" gypsies and criminals etc. But I dont view myself as a bad criminal or primitive nomad etc. I was even for a few years at university

 

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So all gypsies live in the Woods? I cant post Pictures or i would post a proper represantation of gypsies. Google Images were spammed by your Kind with primitive trash and photoshopped Pictures, to represent all gypsies as animals. sometimes not even gypsies but southindians saying they are gypsies. Searching for "Gypsy" is like searching for "redneck". I could post Pictures of "White Trash" and "Rednecks" living in Trailers or even naked in Woods. Once i watched a docu about a nude community in the Woods consisting of Hippie White Persons. I could post hobos and Homeless and ugly Whites without teeth and Tattooes, and very Ugly People and spamm the Internet. I cant post Pictures though nor do I want a Picture fight. Well a lynch mob is very wrong, if the Police does not enough then thats bad, the Police should do more. But I doubt the Police is very nice and loose on Gypsies. I watched a YouTube Video about Policemen in Serbia beating a Gypsy at the Police Station and he beggs them to stop.

Yep, those are fringe groups, while most gypsies live in slum vilages with decaying houses and trailers, no plumbing, foul smell etc.... I never posted Indians in his thread lol, you're just putting words in my mouth. Those are all authentic gypsies, no photoshop too. You can search for yourself on Google, type keyword "Strojanovi".
Only if government provides them with housing do the regular gypsies live in normal houses. Though some are very rich (through scrap metal trade) and have nice villa's. But then again they have 30 member families and on the account of that they scam the government for child support even if infront of the house there are 3 Mercedes' parked.

Why do you say all Gypsies are bad then though? We should judge People on Individual Basis. Give every Person a Face and treat him with human dignity. I distance myself from "hobo" gypsies and criminals etc. But I dont view myself as a bad criminal or primitive nomad etc. I was even for a few years at university

Well, you're a positive exception then. And you shouldn't view yourself as a criminal if you are not.

 

[Random Boy]

Yep, those are fringe groups, while most gypsies live in slum vilages with decaying houses and trailers, no plumbing, foul smell etc.... I never posted Indians in his thread lol, you're just putting words in my mouth. Those are all authentic gypsies, no photoshop too. You can search for yourself on Google, type keyword "Strojanovi".
Only if government provides them with housing do the regular gypsies live in normal houses. Though some are very rich (through scrap metal trade) and have nice villa's. But then again they have 30 member families and on the account of that they scam the government for child support even if infront of the house there are 3 Mercedes' parked.





Well, you're a positive exception then. And you shouldn't view yourself as a criminal if you are not.

in serbia out of all roma 60% live in "unhygienic" Settlements that means almost the half like 40% doesnt. and how they "scam" the government for child Support, everyone who has a child is ENTITLED to get child Support also Whites and everyone else. welfare stealers/scammers etc. are only People who commit welfare fraud but not the People who are entitled by law. you apply different rules to roma then to Whites. They are authentic roma, but so are "homeless White trash" begging on the streets of new yeark. or Punks with Tattoos and piercings. doesnt mean thats a good represantation of the race of People. certainly People who live in the Woods are trash and not good People. i think Romas should be presented positively and not like that.

 

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in serbia out of all roma 60% live in "unhygienic" Settlements that means almost the half like 40% doesnt. and how they "scam" the government for child Support, everyone who has a child is ENTITLED to get child Support also Whites and everyone else. welfare stealers/scammers etc. are only People who commit welfare fraud but not the People who are entitled by law. you apply different rules to roma then to Whites. They are authentic roma, but so are "homeless White trash" begging on the streets of new yeark. or Punks with Tattoos and piercings. doesnt mean thats a good represantation of the race of People. certainly People who live in the Woods are trash and not good People. i think Romas should be presented positively and not like that.

White folk don't breed babies for the sole purpose of attaining welfare. I'm white and my first thoughts before bringing my child into this world would be if i can provide for that child.
Clearly, after you have 5 and are dirt poor you cannot even contemplate on having more if you want to bring up the children in a decent way, so they are provided for. What white family that you know of has so many kids as the picture posted above?
And then you complain about giving everyone an equal chance. How, when from the start even before they are born they won't have the same chances as a white kid who receives the attention of his parents because he is the only one, or one of two.
Truth is, most gypsy kids are left for themselves, that's why they quickly stray into crime. How many gypsy mothers you know of that sat down with their child and helped do his homework?

Dude, i know of real life examples where girls are taught how to wash a man's feet good so they get a well off husband. Or how girls are sent off to beg for an entire day, so that in the evening they give what they earned to the head of the family.........
As for presenting in a positive way, you can start by influencing your children to not quit school.

Here's an example of pretty well integrated gypsies, though they are not from the same part of country like the family i described above.

http://www.romi-kamenci.si/index.php?id=6

 

[Random Boy]

White folk don't breed babies for the sole purpose of attaining welfare. I'm white and my first thoughts before bringing my child into this world would be if i can provide for that child.
Clearly, after you have 5 and are dirt poor you cannot even contemplate on having more if you want to bring up the children in a decent way, so they are provided for. What white family that you know of has so many kids as the picture posted above?
And then you complain about giving everyone an equal chance. How, when from the start even before they are born they won't have the same chances as a white kid who receives the attention of his parents because he is the only one, or one of two.
Truth is, most gypsy kids are left for themselves, that's why they quickly stray into crime. How many gypsy mothers you know of that sat down with their child and helped do his homework?

Dude, i know of real life examples where girls are taught how to wash a man's feet good so they get a well off husband. Or how girls are sent off to beg for an entire day, so that in the evening they give what they earned to the head of the family.........
As for presenting in a positive way, you can start by influencing your children to not quit school.

Not all Whites are that responsible. Some single White Mums just want their husbands to pay them alimentations and the government to pay for their life. There are many single White mums, with 3 Kids with eatch different father. Also if there was a White Family who is poor with many Kids you would not say the same you would say it is good for the White race because they will multiply and you would say they are poor and Need help. Well I know a Racist would and a Racist is the first to call a gypsy a welfare scammer and parasite. Also I dont believe they have just children to "scamm" the Government for Welfare. They always had many Children even before the Welfare State existed. It is because of their Tradition of large families and because they like children. Also because they lack the education etc. Educated Career Women dont have as many children as poor uneducated women. Also I dont think a traditional Family (women serving the husband, many children etc.) are inferior to modern patch work families. Why Whites complain that they go extinct? Whites wished they were as fertile as the other races but they arent. Im a universal Humanist and i see faults also in roma traditions and behaviour, also sexism against women etc. but it is wrong to generalise roma as inherently bad People and inferior primitive race. What Whites do all the time. And there is discrimination against Roma certainly not only Roma Faults. We Need another Approach then being racist.