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EU Parliament to review Pakistan’s GSP+ status and put trade embargo (blasphemy laws

on the other hand in saudi arab :-)

Saudi Arabia has been scrubbing its textbooks of anti-Semitic and misogynistic passages

BEIRUT — Saudi Arabia has been sharply criticized over the decades for school textbooks that preach women's subservience to men, anti-Semitism and a general enmity toward religions other than Islam. But those textbooks have been slowly scrubbed of much of this objectionable content, with particularly significant revisions made in the fall.

Gone is a section on sodomy that was supportive of capital punishment for homosexual relations. Gone are most adulations of extremist martyrdom and its characterization as the highest aspiration of Islam. Anti-Semitic references and calls to “fight Jews” are now far fewer, with the latest edition of a 10th-grade textbook having removed a passage quoting the prophet Muhammad as saying, “The [Day of Judgement] will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims will kill them [all].”



this deserves a separate thread
 



Ignore the caption. I found these two videos,listen to them. this is has France lobby all over it.


France is countering back because of the whole issue with TLP. This much is clear.

France got humiliated very badly by Imran Khan. As Imran Khan raises Islamophobia on every platform the French feel claustrophobic.

I cannot wait when the French ambassador gets booted out of Pakistan. French frogs hate Pakistan, but are desperate to keep their diplomatic staff inside Pakistan. It baffles the mind.
 
The idiocy of the Mullah not withstanding, mighty hypocritical when you keep on supporting and abetting the malicious disrespect against the Prophet (S.A.W) under the guise of freedom of speech but will threaten embargos for supposedly "relativizing the holocaust".

Pakistanis, how do you still not get it? You think you are worth anything to the world with the way you are? This is your fault. Please go ahead and burn the rest of what you have down as well, that'll show them.

Government/Establishment, good job at bowing to the bearded disease every single time.
You said what I wanted to say so much better.
 
So you mean to say that IK should either support religious nutjobs or Liberandu brigade?? Why can't he support what is good and morally right regardless of right vs left?

No that's not what I mean. In my opinion...

1. He should have never made agreement with TLP. Instead he should have told them he'd take the motion to OIC and shifted the onus to act away from himself.

2. If he did agree he should have taken it to parliament and had an open and Frank debate on Parliament. Either way responsibility would have been shared.

3. He then shouldn't have have a violent crackdown followed by a ban.. Opposition scored points off it and it was unpopular with some of the electorate.

4. Then for domestic soundbites he talks about asking the Muslim world to threaten a boycott without addressing it at OIC. in return he have EU neo Nazis ammo to table a motion without gaining any political benefit from the remarks.

It's all politically naive.
 
What about the religious restrictions enforced by France and the systematic racism along with xenophobia in most of Europe.Can anyone put sanctions on Europe.But the zehni ghulams here and in most of Pakistan wont care they just need a reason to attack Islam.

Fvck 'em all. The more these savages cry the better. It is nothing short of acknowledgement that these anti-Pakistan savages are burning with rage.

Frankly we should not be dictated to by external forces, whatever the economic impact.

What are these Europhiles going to do? LOL remove GSP+ status? Big fvcking deal. They can't threaten Pakistan with anything. These anti-Muslim savages have been threating Pakistan with FATF blacklisting for years. The reality is that the Western bloc has run out of ideas against Pakistan.

French and European knickers are in a twist. These bunch of pedophiles had the fantasy of strangling Pakistan into submission after invading Afghanistan. In their wet dreams it was supposed to be a walk in the park. 20 years of humiliation has set the record straight.

Let them cry and rant their usual anti-Pak rhetoric. LOL at Christian persecution blah blah. We didn't put Jews in ovens. We didn't invade Iraq and other colored nations to kill and rape the natives. Those who did are today crying about Christian persecution LOL Fvck these savages and their hypocrisy.
 
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he totally din’t understand what PMIK said about holocaust.

Also mubarakbads to everyone who want to kill in the name of Religion while asking everyone to believe them when the religion is of peace. Totally sends the correct message. (Sarcasm)
He's right about the christian people being wrong fully accused and killed. Not sure about the holocaust thing.
 
The idiocy of the Mullah not withstanding, mighty hypocritical when you keep on supporting and abetting the malicious disrespect against the Prophet (S.A.W) under the guise of freedom of speech but will threaten embargos for supposedly "relativizing the holocaust".

Pakistanis, how do you still not get it? You think you are worth anything to the world with the way you are? This is your fault. Please go ahead and burn the rest of what you have down as well, that'll show them.

Government/Establishment, good job at bowing to the bearded disease every single time.

Him and his ilk are hypocrites of the first order. This Wieners fellow belongs to a Neo-nazi gone mainstream political party called Sverigedemokraterna. They will utilize every populist anti-immigration and anti-muslim opportunity that presents itself. Unfortunately we have Muslims on our side who provide these hypocrites with ample opportunities to show their supporters that Muslims cannot live peacefully with the rest of the world
 
In my opinion the Pakistani response should be this.

Publicly declare...

1. Pakistan will not take dictation on its domestic policies from any foreign entity.

2. To link trade terms with domestic Pakistani policies is a backwards step and reaks of a colonial mindset. That sort of attitude is unhelpful, unwelcome and will not be tolerated in a multi polar world.

3. Pakistan is aware of the discrimination faced by minorities and the judiciary is working on a review of the handling of such cases independently. This is a process the government cannot interfere with in order to preserve the independence of the judiciary.

4. Pakistan does not have a history or a culture of anti semitism and doesn't carry the guilt associated with it. The reference to the holocaust was an example of where Europe prevents hate speech to protect the feeling of the Jewish people. Pakistan suggests that same be done to protect the feelings of the Muslim world.
 
Him and his ilk are hypocrites of the first order. This Wieners fellow belongs to a Neo-nazi gone mainstream political party called Sverigedemokraterna. They will utilize every populist anti-immigration and anti-muslim opportunity that presents itself. Unfortunately we have Muslims on our side who provide these hypocrites with ample opportunities to show their supporters that Muslims cannot live peacefully with the rest of the world

They don't give a rats *** about some brown Christian Pakistani. This is all political mileage. These right-wingers are burning. We have that crazy retard Wilders over here in The Netherlands. The same rhetoric. They all speak the same hateful tongue. The white tiki torch types are seeing their power crumble. They are desperate to make a comeback and rule over colored inferior beings. That won't happen. The world has changed.

These Nazis have persecuted half the planet including the Jews that they adore nowadays so much. The hypocrisy of the white savage doesn't know any bound.
 
The West will keep blackmailing Pakistan, threaten us with economic sanctions until we follow their ways.

These are the things they want:

1. Athiesm in Pakistan
2. Liquor, prostitution, allowed, feminazis roaming freely, total collapse of family structure
3. Surrender of Nuclear assets.
List goes on and on, you get the idea...

Since 2000's, Pakistan foreign policy has been in total grey area, we never completely chose a side. Why? Because we were afraid that we will go bankrupt, XYZ will invade us, we liked the inflow of Benjamins..

Guess what? We already lost 80k civilians, countless martyrs in police, armed forces. APS attack, economy almost suffered a total meltdown.

Maybe it's time for Pakistan to choose a side, whether be black or white.

Example of Iran is right in front of us.
 
PTI will leave Pakistan worst then Musharraf, Zardari and Nawaz combined. Imagine that. Thats what incompetent does to you. Now establishment only hope is to bring PPP in power to portray softer image of Pakistan. Imran Khan is extremist taliban that will ruin Pakistan.
Better bring Mehwish Hayat.
 
The West will keep blackmailing Pakistan, threaten us with economic sanctions until we follow their ways.

These are the things they want:

1. Athiesm in Pakistan
2. Liquor, prostitution, allowed, feminazis roaming freely, total collapse of family structure
3. Surrender of Nuclear assets.
List goes on and on, you get the idea...

Since 2000's, Pakistan foreign policy has been in total grey area, we never completely chose a side. Why? Because we were afraid that we will go bankrupt, XYZ will invade us, we liked the inflow of Benjamins..

Guess what? We already lost 80k civilians, countless martyrs in police, armed forces. APS attack, economy almost suffered a total meltdown.

Maybe it's time for Pakistan to choose a side, whether be black or white.

Example of Iran is right in front of us.

They want Thailand all over the developing world. They want white savages to import brown brides and molest brown children. That is the white Nazi ideal for developing nations.
 
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Although I am an (Hindu) Indian and my country doesnt have friendly relationship with Pakistan I am opposed to these kinds of coercive measures.

1.This is unnecessary interference in another country's internal affairs.
2. This is unlikely to create any positive change in the target country- but cause a lot of sufferings to ordinary citizens.
3. These measures are discriminatory- only economically and politically vulnerable countries are targeted while rich and powerful countries get away with worse- just see what the taller than mountain friend gets away with in East Turkestan.

Regards

You don't see what the PM of Pakistan doing as interference in the internal affairs of European countries by insisting they pass laws that ban blasphemy, Islamophobia, et al?

Pakistan should realize this is a two-way straight: you interfere in their affairs, you allow them to interfere in your affairs.

My rule: Their country, their rules. If people don't like the rules of a host country, don't visit or immigrate their.
 
You don't see what the PM of Pakistan doing as interference in the internal affairs of European countries by insisting they pass laws that ban blasphemy, Islamophobia, et al?

Pakistan should realize this is a two-way straight: you interfere in their affairs, you allow them to interfere in your affairs.

My rule: Their country, their rules. If people don't like the rules of a host country, don't visit or immigrate their.

The European countries invade brown nations along with their daddy USA. Talk about interference. Pakistan doesn't invade other nations or impose their way of life on other nations. We don't have a history of colonizing sovereign nations. Guess who does... Stop being a white man's lackey.

Don't lecture us on our way of life. Don't lecture us that Islam and China are evil. Your rule is hypocritical.
 
On the holocaust, it's important to point out because it's a hypocrisy, you don't get to promote absolute free speech and then enshrine one holy cow that is above reproach and above any assail. If one can insult religion, insult national leaders, ridicule just about anything, deny historical fact on any number of events, and deny scientific consensus etc, why have this one particular subject to reserve the ideology that they purport to uphold so loudly?

On the protecting a minority point, I don't believe holocaust denial is any real threat to Jews, it's probably at best something that they find upsetting and objectionable. If that is indeed the bar, then prohibitions on free speech ought to be justifiable for any religious or ethnic minority that feels remotely upset by something, including Muslims getting upset at blasphemous content. Even recently in Europe people are being given fines and prison sentences for holocaust denial; prison for essentially voicing an opinion. How is that even remotely consistent with European laws and values of free association, expression and speech?

Personally, I don't have an issue with giving importance to the holocaust as a part of recent European history, but it's an internal inconsistency. And our folks, regrettably are conflating this with their wish to limit free speech on their perception of blasphemy, for them it's a useful but tangential retort, for me both the issue and these tangential remarks are just mildly annoying.
I always thought holocaust denial is illegal in Germany how many EU countries have similar laws. I personally believe free speech in Europe is not really free speech many views that are not threats of violence can get you in trouble in the UK. The US does a much better job on free speech holocaust denial should be allowed. I have heard it said that free speech is the freedom to offend.
 
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