EU chides Jordan for hangings after pilot killed

[flamer84]

@rockstar08 Justice served as @flamer84 said.
Those who are crying over their death can go f*ck themselves,this is how to deal with terrorists !
@flamer84 Hahaha I wonder where Markus is ?

Probably crying somewhere that his "values" have been trampled by the Jordanian barbarians or getting his freak on with that Consuela/Conchita/whatever creature.

 

[al-Hasani]

@rockstar08 Justice served as @flamer84 said.
Those who are crying over their death can go f*ck themself,this is how to deal with terrorists !
@flamer84 Hahaha I wonder where Markus is ?

Exactly.

Banned as usual.

Look at the state of the once proud German military, when Prussian militarism was the gold standard of militaries world wide. Do you really think that Europeans have the capacity to see so many of their soldiers fall and so many of their civlians die in the same capacity they did in world war 1 and 2? I doubt that. They are all relying on the U.S. for protection while completely ignoring their military. They can not sustain a war without the U.S.

It is not the pacificim or is however that if Russia today decided to annex half of Europe, Europeans will all look westwards towards the U.S. and the U.S. can in no way handle a long military campaign in the same capacity they used to. They even won't support fighting their own mess in the form of ISIS. Truth is, the west as we know it is ending.

That was before the extremely devastating WW1 and WW2. Then from 1945 until 1990 Europe was dominated by the Cold War. Any moment the US/NATO and USSR and its satellite states could kickstart another world war. This time WW3. A nuclear one (probably) this time around. Of course people are tired of wars and conflicts and want to focus on more important matters. I don't blame them. The GCC has not experienced war for 100 years either. Is that a bad thing? Hell no. One could say the same about the armies and people of the GCC. Can they even fight today? Well Arabs from KSA created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history (more than any other ethic group out there) but then critics of that would say that this was ages ago.

I don't agree with that. Eastern Europeans would not sit back and let Russia invade them again. Look at Ukraine.

Europeans have showed recently and are showing today that they can fight whenever necessary. To tell you honestly then I would trust the Danish army to perform in a war more than all GCC armies outside of KSA and UAE.

 

[flamer84]

Look at the state of the once proud German military, when Prussian militarism was the gold standard of militaries world wide. Do you really think that Europeans have the capacity to see so many of their soldiers fall and so many of their civlians die in the same capacity they did in world war 1 and 2? I doubt that. They are all relying on the U.S. for protection while completely ignoring their military. They can not sustain a war without the U.S.

It is not the pacificim or is however that if Russia today decided to annex half of Europe, Europeans will all look westwards towards the U.S. and the U.S. can in no way handle a long military campaign in the same capacity they used to. They even won't support fighting their own mess in the form of ISIS. Truth is, the west as we know it is ending.

Be that as it may,still,today's European Armies are more than capable of utterly defeating a Russian invasion by themselves in a conventional war.

 

[al-Hasani]

Point in case. Any people or country at the verge of extinction or a country/people that are threatened are capable of rising up even against the biggest challenges. History shows this. It's a basic human survival instinct. I have done boxing since I was a teenager (nothing serious) but even there we learnt never to underestimate our opponents. Don't do that during a war either.

If there is one region in the world that you cannot question in terms of willingness to fight then it's Europe IMO.

 

[Mosamania]

Unfortunately the death penalty is a no go in EU. Thanks to pussies as you say. I don't understand it really. But as long as there are more Markus' then this will remain as such. I tell you that in France then the support for the death penalty is significant. The majority still disagrees but it's not a huge difference.

@Gabriel92 will confirm.

Well, Romania is moving forward like Eastern Europe as a whole. Give it a few decades and they won't say this anymore. It's the same pattern everywhere. In the GCC there are migrants from Africa, Asia etc. who prefer to stay in detention centers and jail rather than going home. Same with refugees from Sub-Saharan and Northern Africa in Southern Europe. This trend will just increase as the planet's population is increasing and there is no end in sight of defeating poverty altogether. More people = less resources.

Look at a country like Nigeria. Almost 200 million people and they are breeding like rabbits (sorry but that's the reality). How in the hell is such a huge population foreseeable for the future? Well, I don't know. Some of the expected populations of Sub-Saharan African countries in 2100 are just staggering. Yes, Africa is very sparsely populated but still.

I never understood why criminal jails (Not terrorists and political prisoners mind you) have to abide by German standards. I don't even have a pool table at home. Swimming pools, cafeterias that I don't even have in the hospital I work in, I have to go outside the hospital a 5 minute walking distance to get an overpriced cheese sandwich just to satiate my hunger so I can keep going through the on call. I go to examine prisonsers in a local jail who might have surgical symptoms like 3 times a month. They turned the freaking thing into a resort.

Yeah you will see a lot of migrant workers who their employers keep in $hit conditions prefer to live in jail if they have nothing to lose. Maybe the employers should be kept in jail for a while to teach them a lesson.

 

[Imran Khan]

why you hang poor suicide bomber

 

[Steve781]

This is how prisoners live in Europe.

To be fair Scandinavian countries are so civilised that they don't really need harsh prisons. It's only when crime ridden countries like Britain and France adopt the same policy that the problems start.

 

[flamer84]

Another example.

Krekar has been living under risk of deportation since 2003 after Norwegian authorities ordered him to be expelled, claiming he posed a threat to national security.

While Norway's court system has upheld the ruling, Norwegian law bars him from being deported to Iraq, where he risks the death penalty.

While Krekar acknowledges having co-founded Ansar al-Islam, he insists he has not led the group since 2002.

The preacher and the group Ansar al-Islam figure on United Nations and U.S. lists of terrorist groups or individuals.



Read more: Norway exiles Islamist hate preacher Mullah Krekar to remote village 300 miles from Oslo | Daily Mail Online
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[al-Hasani]

I never understood why criminal jails (Not terrorists and political prisoners mind you) have to abide by German standards. I don't even have a pool table at home. Swimming pools, cafeterias that I don't even have in the hospital I work in, I have to go outside the hospital a 5 minute walking distance to get an overpriced cheese sandwich just to satiate my hunger so I can keep going through the on call. I go to examine prisonsers in a local jail who might have surgical symptoms like 3 times a month. They turned the freaking thing into a resort.

Yeah you will see a lot of migrant workers who their employers keep in $hit conditions prefer to live in jail if they have nothing to lose. Maybe the employers should be kept in jail for a while to teach them a lesson.

Not all prisons in Europe are like that but conditions in the newly constructed prisons almost everywhere are similar to how you described it.

Well people say that a good indication of a society's state (moral and ethical) is how you treat animals and prisoners. I tend to agree a bit based on what I have seen but this has gone too far. I am against torture etc. and I believe that prisoners "deserve" livable prison conditions etc. Yet I find it pathetic that capital punishment is banned by law in EU. Or the average jail sentences for crimes such as murder, rape, violence, theft, robbery etc.

 

[flamer84]

To be fair Scandinavian countries are so civilised that they don't really need harsh prisons. It's only when crime ridden countries like Britain and France adopt the same policy that the problems start.

Except when those times when civilisation truly goes out the window,see Malmo,Stockolm riots/rape spree or Brejvik's "hunting expedition" .

 

[Mosamania]

Be that as it may,still,today's European Armies are more than capable of utterly defeating a Russian invasion by themselves in a conventional war.

I spent a few days reading not he state of European militaries and I was honestly shocked, more than half of German vehicles are unoperational, Dutch military can only afford to keep a handful of F-16s in working conditions. Austria can only keep 6 typhoons in the air armed with only a single missile, with the pictures are just sad. Swiss army is more capable than more than half of European armies.

It is like EU has decided that there is no need for armies anymore and was closing up shop. Well tough luck, Russia knew that it had and currently has the upper hand Vis-a-vis European militaries and decided to invade the Ukraine, the motherfreaking Ukraine is being invaded, and the reaction is nothing, just bad stares. KSA alone can give the entire EU a run for its money, not saying that it would win, but saying that if the EU teamed up to fight KSA, it would be a fight between equals with the EU having a slight advantage. And that is an entire continent.

The EU's military on paper is not the same on the ground, the U.S. is at its wit's end with Europeans not honoring their NATO obligations. Until the EU gets at least 90% of their equipment operational they are not real militaries and only paper deterrence.

 

[Gabriel92]

I don't understand Nordic countries.... If we had prisons like that,everyone will want to go there.....
We should give no rights for rapists,thieves,killers,pedophiles,they shouldn't even have beds.

 

[flamer84]

I don't understand Nordic countries.... If we had prisons like that,everyone will want to go there.....
We should give no rights for rapists,thieves,killers,pedophiles,they shouldn't even have beds.

Not to mention that the money saved could go to the Military.

 

[Icarus]

"An eye for an eye leaves the world blind but then again, one of my countrymen wasn't burnt alive in a cage"- Random Internet Poster

As the poster says, it makes absolute sense, the terrorists do not abide by the laws that EU cherishes, don't get me wrong, I envy the EU and they have their hearts in the right place but the situation on ground in the middle east is far from even remotely resembling how the EU analyzes it to be.

 

[xenon54 out]

Human rights should only apply to Humans, EU get real, those terrorists came off too easy compared to their savagery, big bravo to Jordan for their stance against terrorists.