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BRUSSELS: The European Union’s anti-terror czar on Thursday urged EU nations to help bolster Pakistan’s police force and justice system, calling it a key to defeating terrorism in the country.“This country is faced with very, very serious security problems,” EU Counterterrorism Coordinator Gilles de Kerchove told members of the European parliament. “The government needs our support, economic support of course, but also in terms of security,” he told the assembly’s security and defence subcommittee in Brussels. “The needs for this are huge.” De Kerchove said the security problem was most acute in the Tribal Areas, but also in Punjab, whose extremists he described as even ‘more sophisticated’. He said while the army could capture extremists, it had trouble in stopping them return to action. “The military is not trained for that,” he said. “They really need to move towards a law enforcement approach.” “Most of the terrorists arrested last year have been released for lack of evidence,” he said. “The justice aspect should not be overlooked, and I hope to convince (EU) member states to increase assistance to actively help Pakistan.” The European Commission is to set afoot an expert mission which will travel to Pakistan, in the late European spring or summer, to examine what the EU can do to help improve police forensics and crime scene analysis. The EU is also debating on ways it can help Pakistan better confront security problems. afp
 
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Even I would reccomend strengthening your police and other civil institutions... Aid should be given to them....

But, safeguards must be put in with such systems to make sure that they cannot be used by the ISI or the Army for their devious plans... (and everybody knows what they are)
 
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Even I would reccomend strengthening your police and other civil institutions... Aid should be given to them....

But, safeguards must be put in with such systems to make sure that they cannot be used by the ISI or the Army for their devious plans... (and everybody knows what they are)

Do you have an ISI phobia, if yes then my advise to you that stay out of this forum. There are plenty of ISI agents and they can take you any time and keep your **** in Bharath rakhshit.:pakistan:
 
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Even I would reccomend strengthening your police and other civil institutions... Aid should be given to them....

But, safeguards must be put in with such systems to make sure that they cannot be used by the ISI or the Army for their devious plans... (and everybody knows what they are)

Sir, the ISI and Army are the protectors of Pakistan. When democracy failed Pak, the Army stepped in and many here hope that will happen again soon. In Pakistan it is the civilian governments and gangsters who have devious plans, from what I have read, rather than the Army and ISI.
The civil institutions need to be purged of corruption or any aid they get will disappear I think.
 
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Not bad, 4 posts total, including the original and only one on topic, the original post.

Considering the relevance of what is being proposed by the EU I am sure the above discussion is a bit thin.

Just to reiterate the original story.
It is also interesting that the two articles on the same topic have slightly different slants.

Also in this case I have included a reference as distinct to the original posting.

EU anti-terror czar urges help for Pakistan police
29 January 2009, 17:14 CET

(BRUSSELS) - The European Union's anti-terror czar urged EU nations Thursday to help bolster Pakistan's police force and justice system, which he said was a key to defeating terrorism there.

"This country is faced with very, very serious security problems," EU counter-terrorism coordinator Gilles de Kerchove told members of the European Parliament.

"The government needs our support, economic support of course, but also in terms of security," he told the assembly's security and defence subcommittee in Brussels. "The needs for this are huge."

He said the security problem was most acute in the largely lawless tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, but also in the Punjab region, whose militants he described as even "more sophisticated".

De Kerchove, who recently returned from a visit to Pakistan, said that while the army could capture extremists it had trouble to stop them returning to action.

"The military are not trained for that," he said. "They really need to move toward a law enforcement approach."

"Most of the terrorists arrested last year have been released for lack of evidence," he said. "The justice aspect should not be overlooked, and I hope to convince (EU) member states to increase assistance to actively help Pakistan."

The European Commission is to set afoot an expert mission which will travel to Pakistan, in the late European spring or summer, to examine what the EU can do to help improve police forensics and crime scene analysis.

The EU is also debating how it can help Pakistan better confront security problems through the possible use of European development funds and assistance to the media.

EU anti-terror czar urges help for Pakistan police — EUbusiness.com - business, legal and economic news and information from the European Union

Some issue were raised in this:
De Kerchove made the following points/comments.
Point 1
‘the army could capture extremists it had trouble to stop them returning to action’
"The military are not trained for that,"


What this points strongly to is the fact the military should not be doing a law enforcement job as it is not trained to develop the evidence trails necessary to make a charge stick in a court of law.
This is not a fault of the military but a base fault in using the military incorrectly.

Point 2
"They really need to move toward a law enforcement approach."
“The justice aspect should not be overlooked”

The chasing down of evidence and being able to present the material in an appropriate manner is the jurisdiction of law enforcement. These are judicial issues not military.

What is being proposed is to provide based on direct dialogue funding to help strengthen that law enforcement and judicial aspect of counter terrorism so those brought to trial are not released due to lack of evidence.

The piece that seems odd is this “assistance to the media”.
This may reflect the need for education of the media to learn that justice is only delivered in a court of law not in the public forum.
 
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the police in pakistan needs a lot of help. it is highly politisized due to 'political appointments" by successive govt's to press home their agendas.

the pakistan police act is a relic of our colonial past (1935) and needs to be updated. the police reforms should include a complete overhaul of the recruitment, fitness, training, grade and salary structure and responsibility doctrines.

the police infrastructure is a complete shambles. record-keeping is pathetic and there is absolutely no discipline amongst the ranks.

the "better" police assets are used to protect the VVIPs of our country and not the general public.

the judicial system is a similar story of corruption, nepotism and complete anarchy

police are allegedly involved in all serious crimes like murder, kidnappings, dacoity and robbery etc.

that is the main reason the para-militaries like the pak rangers (which is a border security force) are required to assist the police and local govt's to control the law and order situation in the country.
 
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