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Erdogan says Saudi 'put pressure' on Pakistan to withdraw from Malaysia summit: Turkish media

Is Imran Khan required to take nation into confidence as to why he quit the KL Summit?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 94.1%
  • No

    Votes: 2 5.9%

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Since the death of King Faisal (RA) by his CIA backed nephew,the kingdom has never been the same again. Today SA,UAE and USA are a nexus of evil(Dajjali illuminatis) and we should try to stay away from them as much as possible. Unfortunately this nexus controls our Establishment,Media,Mollahs,Govts and a big segment of our society. I for one staunchly support our tried and tested alliance with Turkey and China.
Meanwhile here is another link to the Erdogan story!!!
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/20...iled-imran-over-malaysia-summit-claims-erdoga

Do you believe Muslims should actively work towards bringing the Apocalypse and End of Times?

Who is funding the propaganda campaign that end of times is here and Arabs are going to suffer and they have forsaken Islam and only Faras and Turaks are chosen ones now?
 
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4 million people mean 3-4 million associated families or 24-28 million people (Amma,Abba,biwi aur 2-3 Bache minimum).

That is more than 10% population as direct dependants.

We have to either stop breeding or diversify our diaspora to other places as well.
It's more then that. Not only is it the immediate family of the ex-pat but various reports have show that one ex-pat remittances can percolate down to over 20 other people in Pakistan in a indirect economic drip down effect. Taxis, food, house built, medical, consumer goods, clothing, tailor etc can all be fed by money sent by a ex-pat. Even marriages are often financed by ex-pat money which feeds into marriage industry. Point being reittances have a huge impact on Pakistan. Indeed the singke biggest portion of the economy is supported by ex-pat remittances. No other industry comes close. Fact is if remittances stopped Pakistan would plunge into economic suicide.

If you look at so called booming India. Most of it is down to Indian ex-pats in GCC. States that export lot of labour to GCC like Kerala are booming and have some of the highest economic indicators in India. The massive Sikh diaspora keeps Indian Punjab prosperous. You can trip on Sikhs in west and Keralites in UAE. But you won't see any Odishans ot rarely Biharis. But then look at the condition of Bihar or Odisha.
 
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Turkish president says Saudi threatened to withdraw money from State Bank, replace Pakistani labour with Bangladeshis.

Erdogan by revealing this, did the right thing...

Allies don't threaten each other like that.

Means we are allied with Saudis just for money...

I don't like that...Would have preferred brotherly relations but too bad.

Saudis don't deserve that.

Expect the image and affection for Saudis among SUNNIS of Pakistan to go down like free fall.

Iranians just can't stop laughing on this. Saudis axed their own foot here
 
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True but as most of working labor is scattered around the GCC, we just cannot afford to lose that workforce , or make decisions which makes life for these workers hell in GCC
Not saying we should make any decision which make their life more difficult than it probably is, was just pointing out that things are not all fine and dandy in other countries you mentioned earlier
 
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Turkey shall splash out USD10 billion to Pakistan instead of talking only ,to prove their brotherhood. BTW, how much has turkey loan to Pakistan for past 20 years?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Turkey

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Saudi_Arabia

Giving loans is not criteria for being friend.

Turks help us in whatever capacity they have. They help us when it matters most.

Our great ally in Middle East. They saved us from FATF black list along with Malaysia and China
 
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Erdogan by revealing this, did the right thing...
He did the right thing for two reasons -

  • to expose Saudia for what it is. A American/Israeli outpost in the desert.
  • to inform and excuse the reason Pakistan did not take part. In doing so he is saying he understands and appreciates why Pakistan did this and holds no grudge. Mahatir did the same. Both know that PMIK had no choice. Had Erdigan or Mahatir been in PMIK's shoes they would have done exactly the same.
  • Both Erdogan and Mahatir can pursue independent foreign policy because both have robust economies and do not depend on Saudia Arabia.
  • Pakistan literally was exposition of that saying "he who pays the piper gets to call the tune". Since Saudia pays Pakistan. It gets to call the Pakistani tune.
 
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Giving loans is not criteria for being friend.

Turks help us in whatever capacity they have. They help us when it matters most.

Our great ally in Middle East. They saved us from FATF black list along with Malaysia and China
It's not about giving money or not but Saudi loan is very critical in times of Pakistan situation. Are Pakistanis being taught to be ungrateful when in times of need, it's Saudi who give billions of loan even their economy is not that fantastic. What concrete action or REAL help has turkey given to Pakistan besides lip action? Can turkey lips service help Pakistan economy? Tell me? Pakistan ask for loan and it's Saudi who answer that and not turkey. Turkey has an economy bigger than Saudi and yet they can't spare few billions to help the brother?
 
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It's not about giving money or not but Saudi loan is very critical in times of Pakistan situation. Are Pakistanis being taught to be ungrateful when in times of need, it's Saudi who give billions of loan even their economy is not that fantastic. What concrete action or REAL help has turkey given to Pakistan besides lip action? Can turkey lips service help Pakistan economy? Tell me? Pakistan ask for loan and it's Saudi who answer that and not turkey. Turkey has an economy bigger than Saudi and yet they can't spare few billions to help the brother?

Our relations goes with Turks at a time when Pakistan was not even formed.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/overview-of-unconditional-turkey-pakistan-relations-/1354618
 
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Alhamdulillah Saudi and its puppet PM exposed for the cowards they are.

I don't blame Imran much....He was the brainchild of this summit along with Erdogan and Mahatir.

Poor Imran had to back down due to Saudis. Establishment is also big time responsible for it.

At least FM should have gone like Indonesians sent but NOBODY went from our side.

Pathetic.
 
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Turkey has an economy bigger than Saudi and yet they can't spare few billions to help the brother?
Apple and oranges comparison. Turkey has vastly greater population. Pakistan's relations with Turkey have more depth. With Saudia it has a king who literally can dish money out like a lottery jackpot. Saudi king resides over what is his own money coming from oil wells. So not appropriate comparison.
 
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Our relations goes with Turks at a time when Pakistan was not even formed.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/overview-of-unconditional-turkey-pakistan-relations-/1354618
Stop trying side track. You can brag about how brotherhood but with no concrete action taken besides lip service. Where is turkey in this critical times. I already mention turkey economy is bigger than Saudi and yet some still desperate to avoid loaning money to help Pakistan inquiry. Care to explain beside side tracking to avoid that critical answer?
 
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It's more then that. Not only is it the immediate family of the ex-pat but various reports have show that one ex-pat remittances can percolate down to over 20 other people in Pakistan in a indirect economic drip down effect. Taxis, food, house built, medical, consumer goods, clothing, tailor etc can all be fed by money sent by a ex-pat. Even marriages are often financed by ex-pat money which feeds into marriage industry. Point being reittances have a huge impact on Pakistan. Indeed the singke biggest portion of the economy is supported by ex-pat remittances. No other industry comes close. Fact is if remittances stopped Pakistan would plunge into economic suicide.

If you look at so called booming India. Most of it is down to Indian ex-pats in GCC. States that export lot of labour to GCC like Kerala are booming and have some of the highest economic indicators in India. The massive Sikh diaspora keeps Indian Punjab prosperous. You can trip on Sikhs in west and Keralites in UAE. But you won't see any Odishans ot rarely Biharis. But then look at the condition of Bihar or Odisha.

I was being conservative in estimates to make a point.

Otherwise from personal example my phupaa who worked in KSA had 5 kids. His brother who also worked in KSA was equally blessed with children. This is apart from parents/wives and indirect beneficiaries as you stated.

Our foreign remittances from all countries are near our export figures. This should tell us their importance.

However, I don't think that the figure in KSA is 4 mill. It should be 2.5-3 mill as it was 1.9 mill in 2014.

4 mill would be for middle east.

Nevertheless, a significant portion of our population is exposed to remittances from middle east/KSA.
 
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