Erdogan says Saudi 'put pressure' on Pakistan to withdraw from Malaysia summit: Turkish media

[Beast]

Apple and oranges comparison. Turkey has vastly greater population. Pakistan's relations with Turkey have more depth. With Saudia it has a king who literally can dish money out like a lottery jackpot. Saudi king resides over what is his own money coming from oil wells. So not appropriate comparison.

Still that doesn't help when turkey still has a bigger economy than Saudi and yet can't even spare the most critical loan in times of need. Imran Khan knows his country need the loan more besides lip service from turkey.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pathetic.

No. Don't blame anybody in Pakistan. Not even Nawaz, Zardari etc. Saudi's literally threatened to pull all financial support and replace our labour with Banglas. It would have led to economic massacre of Pakistan. No government could handle that. There simply was no choice.

 

[Beast]

No. Don't blame anybody in Pakistan. Not even Nawaz, Zardari etc. Saudi's literally threatened to pull all financial support and replace our labour with Banglas. It would have led to economic massacre of Pakistan. No government could handle that. There simply was no choice.

I doubt Saudi even says that. Those so called bore threat is more like propangada. All Saudi need to tell Imran Khan is when your country is in need of financial , it's Saudi who answer and no one else. Anybody with sense of responsibility will know what to do. Does Pakistan is a country of double cross someone who help u in critical times?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

No. Don't blame anybody in Pakistan. Not even Nawaz, Zardari etc. Saudi's literally threatened to pull all financial support and replace our labour with Banglas. It would have led to economic massacre of Pakistan. No government could handle that. There simply was no choice.

I agree completely.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Still that doesn't help when turkey still has a bigger economy than Saudi and yet can't even spare the most critical loan in times of need. Imran Khan knows his country need to loan more besides lip service from turkey.

Your allowing Uighur issue to cloud your thinking. Trust me Saudia is a abomination. A American stooge and cause of most of Pakistan and most of the wider Muslim's worlds problems. Indeed CPEC and Pakistan's relationship is premised on reduced Saudi footprint in Pakistan. What China represents and what Saudi represents are polar opposites. The bearded, narrow minded animals we have in Pakistan that are danger to CPEC are Saudi disviples. All that section of Pakistan that believes in a cultish slavery of something touted as 'Islam' are products of the camel jockeys. Turkey on the other hand represents the future. The synthesis of modernity, secularism and Islam. Surely this is what you would want Pakisatan to be. If it were Pakistan would become a massive asset to China. Keep that in mind.

Or do you want your iron brother swamped with bearded bigots that don't allow women to drive cars and should you ever visit Pakistan look at you as 'kaffir' and eye up your women as prostitutes just because they are not walking with a mobile tent on there heads.

So please look beyond the Uighur issue. Look that the bigger picture.

 

[Lincoln]

It's also quite amusing to see how people are ready to believe a third force where as something like this would give opposition in Pakistan every opportunity to slay IK.

It's an official source, sir, direct quotation. There is no question left. I personally, despite being a critic, understand Imran Khan's position in the matter.

We need to call spade a spade, doesn't matter how it effects our image, how else will we rectify.

TRT news is to be taken with a pinch of salt. It is more likely that KSA and UAE would have agreed to convert their $10 Billion USD deposit into a loan in an effort to persuade Pakistan to stay away from the Turkish led alliance. Given that the Arabs have an unfriendly relationship with Turkey and Iran, this is a reasonable expectation from them.

Pakistan would have had a choice to decide what was in their self interest. I think that Pakistan has chosen wisely in this case

How is TRT to be taken with a pinch of salt. Who do you want to trust? TRT has been on forefront bringing light to Kashmir issue, where have arab outlets been... oh, I know, licking Israeli balls. Grow some brain cells, man.

 

[B.K.N]

cause of most of Pakistan and most of the wider Muslim's worlds problems

How is Saudi Arabia or any other country responsible for the problems of Pakistan?
Pakistanis are responsible for all of the problems of Pakistan

 

[Beast]

Your allowing Uighur issue to cloud your thinking. Trust me Saudia is a abomination. A American stooge and cause of most of Pakistan and most of the wider Muslim's worlds problems. Indeed CPEC and Pakistan's relationship is premised on reduced Saudi footprint in Pakistan. What China represents and what Saudi represents are polar opposites. The bearded, narrow minded animals we have in Pakistan that are danger to CPEC are Saudi disviples. All that section of Pakistan that believes in a cultish slavery of something touted as 'Islam' are products of the camel jockeys. Turkey on the other hand represents the future. The synthesis of modernity, secularism and Islam. Surely this is what you would want Pakisatan to be. If it were Pakistan would become a massive asset to China. Keep that in mind.

Or do you want your iron brother swamped with bearded bigots that don't allow women to drive cars and should you ever visit Pakistan look at you as 'kaffir' and eye up your women as prostitutes just because they are not walking with a mobile tent on there heads.

So please look beyond the Uighur issue. Look that the bigger picture.

See how u try side track my simple inquiry... I know turkey is stingy and the so called moral support or help are nothing but fake. This is the answer you desperate try to avoid to admit. For me , I have witness nothing of concrete assist provide by turkey to Pakistan besides the so called righteous moral support. It's easy to brag about all this talking but the most difficult is to take real action and dip into your country saving to help a friend in need.

 

[Lincoln]

It's not about giving money or not but Saudi loan is very critical in times of Pakistan situation. Are Pakistanis being taught to be ungrateful when in times of need, it's Saudi who give billions of loan even their economy is not that fantastic. What concrete action or REAL help has turkey given to Pakistan besides lip action? Can turkey lips service help Pakistan economy? Tell me? Pakistan ask for loan and it's Saudi who answer that and not turkey. Turkey has an economy bigger than Saudi and yet they can't spare few billions to help the brother?

Chinese should stay out of it. Seriously, how does this concern you? Are you Pakistani? Do you know why are relations are the way they are? No, you don't.

I saw you coming though, you guys will jump into anything to demean Turkey.

See how u try side track my simple inquiry... I know turkey is stingy and the so called moral support or help are nothing but fake. This is the answer you desperate try to avoid to admit. For me , I have witness nothing of concrete assist provide by turkey to Pakistan besides the so called righteous moral support.

You need to be thrown under the bus. I swear.

 

[Clutch]

Erdogan says Saudi 'put pressure' on Pakistan to withdraw from Malaysia summit: Turkish media

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Prime Minister Imran Khan and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. — AFP/File
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that Pakistan decided to stay away from the recently concluded Kuala Lumpur summit because of Saudi Arabia's threats of economic sanctions, Turkish newspaper Daily Sabah reported on Friday.

The meeting was shunned by Saudi Arabia and criticised for allegedly undermining the bigger Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC). Some analysts also suspected that Saudi Arabia's reluctance to attend stemmed from fear of being diplomatically isolated by regional rivals Iran, Qatar and Turkey, all of whom were attending the summit.

Saudi state news agency SPA also reported that on a call with Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Mohammad, Saudi King Salman reaffirmed that such issues should be discussed through the OIC.

According to Daily Sabah, Erdogan, while speaking to Turkish media representatives, said that it was not the first time that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had put pressure on a country for doing or not doing certain things.

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“Unfortunately, we see that Saudi Arabia pressures Pakistan. Now, there are promises that the country has given to Pakistan regarding the central bank. However, more than that, there are four million Pakistanis working in Saudi Arabia. They [threaten by saying that they] would send [Pakistanis] back and re-employ Bangladeshis instead,” Erdogan was quoted as saying. He added that the kingdom has also threatened to withdraw money it had deposited in the State Bank of Pakistan.

According to Erdogan, Pakistan had to comply with the Saudi wishes "due to its economic difficulties".

The Foreign Office has yet to comment on Erdogan's statement.

'No representation from Pakistan at summit'
Pakistan was one of the first countries with which Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir had shared his plans for holding the summit when he met Prime Minister Imran along with Erdogan on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly session in New York in September.

Later, Imran Khan formally conveyed his acceptance of the invitation for attending the summit when Deputy Foreign Minister of Malaysia Marzuki Bin Haji Yahya called on him in Islamabad on November 29.

Last week, however, reports of Prime Minister Imran cancelling his trip to Malaysia started making rounds. After his visit to Saudi Arabia on Saturday, the premier decided to stay away from the Kuala Lumpur summit. According to reports, he withdrew due to pressure exerted by the kingdom, which had extended a helping hand to the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf government during its early days to stave off an economic crisis.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi had on Tuesday confirmed that there would be no representation from Pakistan at the summit of some 20 Muslim countries, which started in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday.

Qureshi confirmed that Saudi Arabia and the UAE had concerns about the summit, saying the two countries were worried that the event could cause “division in Ummah” and lead to setting up of an organisation parallel to the existing Saudi-dominated OIC.

In view of the reservations about the summit, Qureshi said, it was decided that Pakistan would seek to bridge the gap between Riyadh and Kuala Lumpur and if that did not work there would be no participation in the summit.

Prime Minister Imran’s trip to the kingdom was aimed at bringing Saudi Arabia and Malaysia closer and not for getting permission to attend the summit, the minister said at the time.


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Beggars can't be choosers!

Nothing in life is free... Beg for money and one day the grim reaper will comes to collect

 

[Beast]

Chinese should stay out of it. Seriously, how does this concern you? Are you Pakistani? Do you know why are relations are the way they are? No, you don't.

I saw you coming though, you guys will jump into anything to demean Turkey.



You need to be thrown under the bus. I swear.

I guess my true inquiry strike a real nerve on denial who refuse to believe fake friendship and showmanship. It's easy to talk but difficult to take real action to help a friend.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistanis are responsible for all of the problems of Pakistan

Indeed. We can point to external influences/dynamics but ultimately the failure is at home. In this instance decades old failure to develop a robust economy has turned Pakistani into a economic basket case and dependent on others. Result we have no economic sovereignty and thus no political soveriegnty.

 

[Kompromat]

Beggars aren't choosers and Saudis have put us in our place, rightfully so. That's because they can and we can't do shit right now.

 

[313ghazi]

I don't blame Imran much....He was the brainchild of this summit along with Erdogan and Mahatir.

Poor Imran had to back down due to Saudis. Establishment is also big time responsible for it.

At least FM should have gone like Indonesians sent but NOBODY went from our side.

Pathetic.

I do blame him. The people of this nation would eat grass for sovereignty. They sacrifice every single day for this nation.

Yet this man doesn't have the courage to take on the powers that be using any means necessary. Politicians free, judiciary running amok, babbus going wild. What will it take to see heads severed from shoulders in this country?

 

[Indos]

I also think this also the case for Indonesia. Indonesian Vice President who should have attended the conference has cancelled his visit to Malaysia in the last minute by saying health problem as the cause. I believe there is a pressure from Saudi but Indonesia still send its Foreign Minister to the conference.

We got investment pledge from Saudi and UAE before, I think Indonesia decide to play down its role in this conference by sending its Foreign Minister.