Enough with the racism against Bengalis on Fake Genocide Remembrance Day

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

It does matter, how come a bangali from india have virasat from Punjabis, not the fake ones but the real sons of soil. It's funny when indian bangalis, maharashtris, karanatakars, biharis etc talk about IVC ancestry.

It is the heritage of those Indians who reside in those states...we are taking of roughly 20 percent territory..

No I personally donot have any connection to IVC or the Aryans and donot claim the heritage of neither of these dominant groups of people of the subcontinent

My heritage consists primarily of the Bengal region....and we have Mahasthangarh and few other sites that we can trace back to

as for my personal bloodline, we are "Ureinwohners" of Western portion of Bengal region and ancestors in my lineage cleared the forest between Ajay and Damodar river and made it sutiable for heavy intensive agriculture...all this happened 450 years back and been historically documented in our annals ...We were most probably forest dwellers before that and were venerating our own forest Gods...some members of our clan may have gotten themselves to the big urban centres of Ancient Bengal and may have become advanced meditation masters and spread this philosophical praxis to Tibet and Japan (like other Bengalis, especially from Chittagong, meditation is in my blood)

We are backward castes of Western Bengal and we have nothing to do with IVC,Aryans or blonde Muslim Vikings from the NorthWest


That said plenty of Indians have IVC bood and that gives me the right to speak for them when they themselves are absent to defend their interest....Just as I defend the history of many North Eastern and Himalayan rim people if they themselves are absent to give a proper exposition


and IVC sites in Pakistan will disappear in two decades..please do a better job of preserving them instead of using them as "racial" taunts against Indians

Did you put the word "FAKE" in the title.

No ..thanks for bringing it up to my notice...sad really...that Our self esteem is more important than 30,000 war rape pregnancies


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those who say I have zero evidence, count the number of sites on the map..both total sites as well as big cities...and you will get your answer ....

 

[Ace of Spades]

You know he is making it all up as he has 0 evidence for ANY of his claims.

All this fake claims and trying to look relevant by associating themselves with our civilization and ancestry shows that how much ashamed they are of their ancestry and think themselves racially inferior, which imo should not be the case

That said plenty of Indians have IVC bood and that gives me the right to speak for them when they themselves are absent to defend their interest....Just as I defend the history of many North Eastern and Himalayan rim people if they themselves are absent to give a proper exposition

No they don't only indian PUNJABIS do and may be some one from Gujarat region. But even that not as a whole because after looking at your PM will give you an idea how much IVC ancestry he has and he is from Gujarat.

No I personally donot have any connection to IVC or the Aryans and donot claim the heritage of neither of these dominant groups of people of the subcontinent

My heritage consists primarily of the Bengal region....and we have Mahasthangarh and few other sites that we can trace back to

as for my personal bloodline, we are "Ureinwohners" of Western portion of Bengal region and ancestors in my lineage cleared the forest between Ajay and Damodar river and made it sutiable for heavy intensive agriculture...all this happened 450 years back and been historically documented in our annals ...We were most probably forest dwellers before that and were venerating our own forest Gods...some members of our clan may have gotten themselves to the big urban centres of Ancient Bengal and may have become advanced meditation masters and spread this philosophical praxis to Tibet and Japan (like other Bengalis, especially from Chittagong, meditation is in my blood)

We are backward castes of Western Bengal and we have nothing to do with IVC,Aryans or blonde Muslim Vikings from the NorthWest

That's more like it and 90 percent plus of India is like that as well, with other heritage and ancestry. But as a whole when india talks about being part of IVC heritage, it's just very laughable and pathetic nothing more and shows the inferiority complex most of you have.

and IVC sites in Pakistan will disappear in two decades..please do a better job of preserving them instead of using them as "racial" taunts against Indians

Are you gonna keep repeating that? Already answered you for this part. Lemme paste it here again, in case you have "missed"

Writing big and with bold font will not prove your point, i really do wonder and it's a genuine question, is it really that hard for you guys from ganga and jumna to understand the basic concepts? The sites doesn't matter, the people of the soil matter, though the sites aren't going anywhere, but let's assume for a second that they do. But the whole point is that they are just some old buildings and ruins but the people and our DNA is from our ancestors and that's not going anywhere.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

All this fake claims and trying to look relevant by associating themselves with our civilization and ancestry shows that how much ashamed they are of their ancestry and think themselves racially inferior, which imo should not be the case



No they don't only indian PUNJABIS do and may be some one from Gujarat region. But even that not as a whole because after looking at your PM will give you an idea how much IVC ancestry he has and he is from Gujarat.



That's more like it and 90 percent plus of India is like that as well, with other heritage and ancestry. But as a whole when india talks about being part of IVC heritage, it's just very laughable and pathetic nothing more and shows the inferiority complex most of you have.



Are you gonna keep repeating that? Already answered you for this part

It's not just him, but all indians. They make far-fetched ridiculous claims but NEVER EVER have ANY CREDIBLE GENUINE evidence to back up those claims. You can't take them seriously. They live in a bollywood fairy tale world.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

All this fake claims and trying to look relevant by associating themselves with our civilization and ancestry shows that how much ashamed they are of their ancestry and think themselves racially inferior, which imo should not be the case



No they don't only indian PUNJABIS do and may be some one from Gujarat region. But even that not as a whole because after looking at your PM will give you an idea how much IVC ancestry he has and he is from Gujarat.



That's more like it and 90 percent plus of India is like that as well, with other heritage and ancestry. But as a whole when india talks about being part of IVC heritage, it's just very laughable and pathetic nothing more and shows the inferiority complex most of you have.

IVC wore saree and sindoor .....Indians and even Bangladeshis do that..anyways forget that..as I said India and Pakistan has been at war even before this Universe came into existence, Indians descend from Lothal, Rakhigarhi,Kalibangan

Pakistanis descend from Harappa and Mohenjodaro...Period..I donot know what happened with their descendants in Pakistan and frankly I donot care

What i do know we have DNA evidence from Rakhigarhi skeleton and we can work it out what percentage of Indians descended from those people


What I can do say for sure, zero Pakistanis share heritage with Rakhigarhi DNA...go find your own skeleton in Harappa and mohenjodaro to figure out your ancestry

https://scholar.harvard.edu/vagheesh/rakhigarhi

 

[Ace of Spades]

What i do know we have DNA evidence from Rakhigarhi skeleton and we can work it out what percentage of Indians descended from those people

I am gonna give you benefit of doubt and assume that you don't know much about genetic studies and how DNA cluster sequencing and when they are compared with a certain group of people works. I would suggest to start with 23 and me, how does that work and read their disclaimer in that methodology.

IVC wore saree and sindoor

lol and probably they bathed naked and Swedish also bath naked. This just proves the point that how much we influenced your people from our culture, language, even religion

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

IVC wore saree and sindoor .....Indians and even Bangladeshis do that..anyways forget that..as I said India and Pakistan has been at war even before this Universe came into existence, Indians descend from Lothal, Rakhigarhi,Kalibangan

Pakistanis descend from Harappa and Mohenjodaro...Period..I donot know what happened with their descendants in Pakistan and frankly I donot care

What i do know we have DNA evidence from Rakhigarhi skeleton and we can work it out what percentage of Indians descended from those people


What I can do say for sure, zero Pakistanis share heritage with Rakhigarhi DNA...go find your own skeleton in Harappa and mohenjodaro to figure out your ancestry

https://scholar.harvard.edu/vagheesh/rakhigarhi

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!.........................You haven't even read the journal properly. Here it is again:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867419309675

It is says the genome of an "individual" found in Harrappa doesn't have significant genetic similarity with NORTHERN Iranians who originate from the Steppes........................your own evidence is contradicting yourself.........

I am gonna give you benefit of doubt and assume that you don't know much about genetic studies and how DNA cluster sequencing and when they compared with a certain group of people works. I would suggest to start with 23 and me, how do that work and read their disclaimer in that methodology.



lol and probably they bathed naked and Swedish also bath naked. This just proves the point that how much we influenced your people from our culture, language, even religion

........he's not very intelligent at all.........

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

It does matter, how come a bangali from india have virasat from Punjabis, not the fake ones but the real sons of soil. It's funny when indian bangalis, maharashtris, karanatakars, biharis etc talk about IVC ancestry.

It's funny when Pakistanis talk up their Gandharan Buddhist culture and IK show Gandharan Buddhism to Koreans, given Buddhism and its earliest masters for over a thousand years came from Vihara, Bengal,Maharashtra and Andhra ....a religion that is Gangu in thought, intellect, character and vision

You guys followed Mahayana Buddhism which is the complete creation of a genius Andhraite Nagarjuna..He gave the world the philosophy of Emptiness..Madhyamika

I am gonna give you benefit of doubt and assume that you don't know much about genetic studies and how DNA cluster sequencing and when they compared with a certain group of people works. I would suggest to start with 23 and me, how do that work and read their disclaimer in that methodology.

lol and probably they bathed naked and Swedish also bath naked. This just proves the point that how much we influenced your people from our culture, language, even religion

Just like we influenced you to follow Buddhism when you didnot know any better

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!.........................You haven't even read the journal properly. Here it is again:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867419309675

It is says the genome of an "individual" found in Harrappa doesn't have significant genetic similarity with NORTHERN Iranians who originate from the Steppes........................your own evidence is contradicting yourself.........







........he's not very intelligent at all.........

So what does that change? Its the archaoelogists who think Rakhigarhi and Harappa are connected...it's you who deny that claim (and me too)

The skeletons were found deep within India out side of the Indus valley......those skeletons are ancestors of Indians and not Pakistanis...deal with it

 

[Ace of Spades]

It's funny when Pakistanis talk up their Gandharan Buddhist culture and IK show Gandharan Buddhism to Koreans, given Buddhism and its earliest masters for over a thousand years came from Vihara, Bengal,Maharashtra and Andhra ....a religion that is Gangu in thought, intellect, character and vision

You guys followed Mahayana Buddhism which is the complete creation of a genius Andhraite Nagarjuna..He gave the world the philosophy of Emptiness..Madhyamika

Look where gandhara civilization was and where their ancestors are living in modern day. They practiced a religion whose remnants are found there. Btw this map is from the time of budha, so this religion was spread to different civilizations during same time.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Which proves that no war crimes were committed by the Pakistan Army if even our enemies don't have any REAL CREDIBLE evidence against us. Just fairy tales.

Great logic

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Look where gandhara civilization was and where their ancestors are living in modern day. They practiced a religion whose remnants are found there. Btw this map is from the time of budha, so this religion was spread to different civilizations during same time.

doesnot matter...you guys were following our religion ...that makes gandhara civilization a disciple of gangu civilization...by the way good find...I always appreciate maps. and the Mahajanapadas map is really good one


Mahajanapada is again a Gangu word and not a Gandhara word

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's funny when Pakistanis talk up their Gandharan Buddhist culture and IK show Gandharan Buddhism to Koreans, given Buddhism and its earliest masters for over a thousand years came from Vihara, Bengal,Maharashtra and Andhra ....a religion that is Gangu in thought, intellect, character and vision

You guys followed Mahayana Buddhism which is the complete creation of a genius Andhraite Nagarjuna..He gave the world the philosophy of Emptiness..Madhyamika





Just like we influenced you to follow Buddhism when you didnot know any better




So what does that change? Its the archaoelogists who think Rakhigarhi and Harappa are connected...it's you who deny that claim (and me too)

The skeletons were found deep within India out side of the Indus valley......those skeletons are ancestors of Indians and not Pakistanis...deal with it

So hold on, WHERE does he say that rakhigarhi is connected to Harrappa?......................also, a skeleton found deep in india has no genetic link to Iranians????........That is very obvious. You don't even need a genetic test to prove that one.....................KEEP GOING!!!........You are contradicting yourself at every step................you need to go back to school and learn how to read and understand English.......

doesnot matter...you guys were following our religion ...that makes gandhara civilization a disciple of gangu civilization...by the way good find...I always appreciate maps. and the Mahajanapadas map is really good one


Mahajanapada is again a Gangu word and not a Gandhara word

What religion is that and where is the evidence that confirms what you are blabbering on about.

 

[Ace of Spades]

The skeletons were found deep within India out side of the Indus valley.....

If, may God forbid, you pass away in germany and your skeleton is found thousands of years later. Does that make germans bangalis? But even if i don't folllow that line of thought another likely scenario is the one i talked about in my previous post, look how genetic cluster sequencing work in comparison with a certain population. Don't be stubborn on that, may be you will learn something.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I see.

So you just wanted to join another Nazi mob from India like those who did in 1970 from East Pakistan.

No wonder you believe in the theory that humans do not learn.

What? Because I read from diverse sources I’m a nazi now? Amazing logic. The same idiocy is present in Bangladesh who calls me razakar...

no humans do not learn from their past, if they did the Jews wouldn’t be persecuting Palestinians, the Indians to Pakistanis and vice versa, the Burmese on the rohyngas, the bengalis on Biharis etc etc etc

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

So hold on, WHERE does he say that rakhigarhi is connected to Harrappa?......................also, a skeleton found deep in india has no genetic link to Iranians????........That is very obvious. You don't even need a genetic test to prove that one.....................KEEP GOING!!!........You are contradicting yourself at every step................you need to go back to school and learn how to read and understand English.......






What religion is that and where is the evidence that confirms what you are blabbering on about.

This is part of the title:
Lacks Ancestry from Steppe Pastoralists or Iranian Farmers

the skeletons LACK ancestry from the steppes or Iranian farmers...which means the Ancestors of the Rakhigarhi skeletons were native to Haryana since time immemorial

If, may God forbid, you pass away in germany and your skeleton is found thousands of years later. Does that make germans bangalis? But even if i don't folllow that line of thought another likely scenario is the one i talked about in my previous post, look how genetic cluster sequencing work in comparison with a certain population. Don't be stubborn on that, may be you will learn something.

where does it say those skeletons came from outside?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Great logic

Which is made far greater by there being NO GENUINE OR CREDIBLE evidence that the Pakistani Army committed war crimes against bengali civilians in 1971. You guys were killing each other. We were the neutrals. At MOST, the Pakistani Army MAY have treated bengalis badly but that was it. We weren't killing them. You guys were doing a fine job of that yourselves.