El-Sisi: Egypt has armed forces that are among the most powerful armies in the region

[Saddam Hussein]

and İraqis would return back to SADDAM times if they could

Iraq was destroyed by The US and The UK
but Turkey saved Libya from christian invaders Russia France , The US and their puppets CIA agent HAFTAR ,The Uae

No one's interested in your Feto story, the old friend of erdogan.
Sisi should stop being a dayyooth, invade Libya and enforce the re-Arabization of the western front.

 

[Ceylal]

why OBAMA and BIDEN used their proxy FETO to make military coup to destroy president ERDOGAN ?
why TRUMP attacked Turkish economy ?

because of , 3 Turkish military operations kicked PKK/YPG and blocked American/İsraeli plan in Syria
France also was in Syria to support PKK/YPG to create terror corridor against Turkey


also Turkish Army entered Libya to kick France and Russia who tried to turn Libya into christian colony
Thanks to Turkish UCAV technology which raped Russian-made PANTSIR Air Defense Systems in Syria and Libya


since 2013 , there are asymmetric - economic war between Turkey and The US , İsrael , France , their proxies FETO , PKK/YPG , The UAE , HAFTAR , etc in Turkey,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

and Turkey lost thousands of soldiers and over $500 billion to fight against The US , İsrael , France , their proxies FETO , PKK/YPG , The UAE , HAFTAR , etc since 2013



on the other hand , 22 Arab Countries can not even criticize The US and İsrael ...... because of fear

The US , İsrael , France killed millions of Arabs in Algeria ,Palestine , Iraq also they destroyed stability in Libya




btw if you want to know who is vassal to İsrael , its your Arab brothers The Uae, KSA , Bahreyn , etc
They can’t breath without the US

Please save us from all that bravado talk..Turkey is doing NATO, Israel and the US bidding in Syria as well as in Lybia...especially in Lybia..but that one move, Turkey will regret in the near future from the Lybians themselves. You talk about France misdeeds in Algeria as if your 4 century stay in the same country was bloodless...
And the sad thing is when the UN vote came down for the Algerian indépendance, Turkey was the only Muslim country that sided with France and voted NO..Even the US and even Israel voted for ant took you years after Algerian indépendance to join in with the world and established diplomatic relation with Algeria...remember the country that theTurcs sold to the French for a mere right to passage to allow the remnant Turcs to regain safely Constantinople.
And you talk about the so called push against your sultan...that was a fake created by the sultan himself to weed out the army brass that weren’t found of his ideology. ..

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey was the only Muslim country that sided with France and voted NO..Even the US and even Israel voted for ant took you years after Algerian indépendance to join in with the world and established diplomatic relation with Algeria

even CHP leader INONU who ruled Turkey was the first muslim Country who recognized İsrael

leftists in Turkey so hate Arabs


but real muslim TURKS sent weapons to Algeria by Submarines and Ships to fight France

You talk about France misdeeds in Algeria as if your 4 century stay in the same country was bloodless.

TURKS never killed anyone in Algeria in 400 years

even Algeria was so powerful to match with The US in 1780s

In 1783, the United States, a new maritime state, began to fly its flag over the seas alone.
On July 25, 1785, the first American ship carrying this new flag was captured by Ottoman Ships of Algeria

and 11 more US ships were captured by the Ottoman Ships of Algeria since 1793


in 1795, the US agreed to make a deal against this threat
and It would pay 642,000 gold for one time and 12,000 Ottoman gold annually in return for not touching any ship carrying the US flag in the Mediterranean

The agreement was signed by Joseph Donaldson on behalf of the United States of America and the Governor of Algeria, Cezayirli Hasan Pasha

and the language of which is Turkish.
It is the only US document in more than two centuries of the United States to accept the payment of taxes to a foreign state, as it is the only treaty signed in a foreign language


Algeria had so great history under the Ottoman Empire
Now nobody cares about Algeria

 

[ARCH٤R]

For some reason most Egyptian related threads end up discussing the Middle East and Turkey...

 

[fitpOsitive]

Ah the delision of strong armies....

 

[Bouncer]

Ordinary Egyptians are good and very capable people. But just like Pakistan, their country has been hijacked by a Blood Sucking leach called The Military Establishment. Strangely enough, people of both these countries have endured Military dictators for decades, and even when there was so called democracy, EXTREMELY CORRUPT PEOPLE WERE APPOINTED PMs and Presidents by the Military Establishment.

It is an unfortunate fate of such fantastic talented people of these two great countries who are being held hostage and pushed below poverty lines by their own Military Dictators or their appointed Corrupt Leaders.

And ironically both countries have a significant % of pro-military population. In terms of democratic process & its maturity its interesting to note that Turkey leads Pakistan and Pakistan leads Egypt by about 2 decades.

 

[T-SaGe]

The Turks and Algerians together prevented the Latins' Reconquista from spreading to Africa and kept North Africa as a Muslim land. If we were not able to stop this, we would have had to meet the Spanish and Portuguese raids, in Quds, Mecca and Medina.

In fact, this alliance has grown so strong that it had established a hegemony over the entire Mediterranean 200 years. The Portuguese had to advance from the south of Africa as a result of this anyway.

Here, there was not a nation struggle, but a common goal and faith struggle. Algerian and Turkish sailors are rest in together all over the Mediterranean that they gave their life. Please do not damage this memory because of your political ambitions. Ty.

 

[Ceylal]

even CHP leader INONU who ruled Turkey was the first muslim Country who recognized İsrael

leftists in Turkey so hate Arabs


but real muslim TURKS sent weapons to Algeria by Submarines and Ships to fight France





TURKS never killed anyone in Algeria in 400 years

even Algeria was so powerful to match with The US in 1780s

In 1783, the United States, a new maritime state, began to fly its flag over the seas alone.
On July 25, 1785, the first American ship carrying this new flag was captured by Ottoman Ships of Algeria

and 11 more US ships were captured by the Ottoman Ships of Algeria since 1793


in 1795, the US agreed to make a deal against this threat
and It would pay 642,000 gold for one time and 12,000 Ottoman gold annually in return for not touching any ship carrying the US flag in the Mediterranean

The agreement was signed by Joseph Donaldson on behalf of the United States of America and the Governor of Algeria, Cezayirli Hasan Pasha

and the language of which is Turkish.
It is the only US document in more than two centuries of the United States to accept the payment of taxes to a foreign state, as it is the only treaty signed in a foreign language


Algeria had so great history under the Ottoman Empire
Now nobody cares about Algeria

ALGERIANS CARE ABOUT ALGERIA, WE DON’T GIVE A FLYING F—K, WHAT THE REST OF THE WORLD THINK ABOUT ALGERIA...WE KNOW THE ONES THAT WE CAN COUNT ON, OUR REAL FRIENDS AND TURKEY IS NOT ONE OF THEM, ESPECIALLY THE ONE UNDER THE DUMBASS MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD., NOR THE MUSLIM STATES SAVE A FEW.

 

[Gomig-21]

Eventually with the 30 Su-35SE with their incredible 3600-4000 km range depending on how much afterburner they use and all of this whithout any drop tanks. Notice you won't find a single Su-35S carrying any fuel tanks because of their massive interior fuel load AND foam installed in the wings tanks so the fuel doesn't ignite under small fire and they go roaming with that range all around the Mediterranean to Greece and back to Cyprus and then to Syria and to Iraq and a quick visit to Saudi and the UAE and some recon over Ethiopia and back. Carrying the r37, every single AWACs within its range better be gripping their throttles really nice and tight. Tough to beat an Su-35S with all the training the EAF pilots will be getting on those. Oh yeah, the 200 +/- F-16s will do their usual prowling along the Israeli and Libyan border and the MiG-35 will most likely patrol coastal areas and support the slew of stealth ships which in a year's time will be quite impressive. We'll get into some of the other items later.
Oh yeah, and the deadly 24 Rafales which are negotiating for not just the 12 more in the option, but quite a few more than that. They need at least 50 and load them with SCALPs and meteor missiles lololololoo gooooood niiiiiiiight. Those will be reserved for super special operations like taking out an entire column of tanks or Toyotas trying to infiltrate the borders. The Libyan border has almost come to a complete stop still of any infiltration after so many cretins were pan fried to crispy cretins those filthy animals. But those were probably the function of the EAF's F-16 block 52 as one crashed in the process and the wingloongs have been instrumental in taking out those pigs.

46 Ka-52 Nile Alligators
45 Apache gunships with Hellfire missiles
1 Advanced Acquitaine FREMM and 2 Bergaminiu Class FREMM and I believe they're negotiating 4 more
2 MEKO A200 Frigates with a possible order for 4 to 6 more since the Germans are probably the fastest builders of these miltary ships.
4 Gowinds corvettes with 20 OPV corvettes
4 type 209 Submarines and maybe 12 Scorpene deep sea submarines if negotiations go well and...
a memorandum between the US and Egypt signed that none of the American weapons be shared with the Russian ones and possibly open the 4th largest operator of F-16s to some better BVR and WVR missiles since the brilliance of Sisi (contrary to the foolish hatred of the guy) is a brilliant master who undoubtedly figured this modernization for a long time and discussed it with the top generals of all the branches and they tweaked it and had a plan which first started with the 2 Mistrals LHD helicopters & carriers as well as many other super capable ships like the Ambassador which was build by the US ONLY for Egypt.
S-300VM I think they purchased 9 batteries and then went to Germany to purchase the IRST-SL-T system specifically to work with the Protivnik GE radar and the Resonance Radar that are set up to observe 1100 kilometers and actively track and order the appropriate attack. Algeria also bought the Protivnik and I have absolutely no doubt that the Su-57 is in Egypt's future as soon as the fisrt 76 for the RuAF are finished, it will be a competition between Algerian and Egypt as to who signs a contract first.

 

[The SC]

The Turks and Algerians together prevented the Latins' Reconquista from spreading to Africa and kept North Africa as a Muslim land. If we were not able to stop this, we would have had to meet the Spanish and Portuguese raids, in Quds, Mecca and Medina.

In fact, this alliance has grown so strong that it had established a hegemony over the entire Mediterranean 200 years. The Portuguese had to advance from the south of Africa as a result of this anyway.

Here, there was not a nation struggle, but a common goal and faith struggle. Algerian and Turkish sailors are rest in together all over the Mediterranean that they gave their life. Please do not damage this memory because of your political ambitions. Ty.

Wrong.. just checked it.. Morocco fought the deadliest battles against Spain and Portugal combined.. Barbarosa reigned in the sea.. he was the Turko-Algerian Admiral..

US never entered to Turkey and destroy whole nation whereas we all know what She did in Iraq.

That is a very idiotic comment .. as you seem to think that if Turkey would have invaded Kuwait it would have fared better than Iraq..

 

[Bouncer]

What are you on about brother. They are respectively placed 11th and 10th in the world military ranking where is all this 2 decades? Militarily both countries are head to head. There are places where Egypt is stronger then Pakistan and vice versa there are places where Pakistan is stronger but on average they are about the same strength except Pakistan has Nuclear weapons which gives it an edge. Turkey has stronger army then both due to much superior defense industry 2nd best in the world currently but the cap is not that big tho since both Egypt and Pakistan rank higher then Turkey which makes the ranking not quite realistic but you kinda of get the picture. hard to measure.

Brother, I think you misread my post as a military comparison. I commented on the institution of democracy, democratic process and how strong it is in our three Muslim countries. Pakistan and Turkey have suffered from US backed military coups that worked to further US interests. Egypt has a had a long and complicated history with military coups as well.

Turkey suffered last suffered an outright coup in 1980. And some behind the scene coups like the one in 1997. Since then Turkey has made progress in last two decades towards civilian supremacy and Turks proved their intentions of protecting their democracy in 2016.

Pakistan has had some semblance of a civilian government since 2008, though military remains firmly in-charge of two critical domains like foreign policy and defence from behind the scenes with some semlence of a civilian supremacy. Things are moving slowly but surely towards a more democratic Pakistan and Insha'Allah a few more election cycles and we will have a stable democracy, unless Uncle Sam manages to convince another "mujahid" General of ours to "save Pakistan from existential threats" i.e. serve America against their latest enemy. It was the Soviets in 80's and Terrorism in 99.

I ranked Egypt as a few decades behind Pakistan because you guys are as of today, democratic process wise, where we were before dictator Zia of 80s--a popular leader (Bhutto) elected by the people was hanged by Zia. Bhutto had his own set of problems and is today reviled for his economic mismanagement etc.

Below is my original post for reference.

And ironically both countries have a significant % of pro-military population. In terms of democratic process & its maturity its interesting to note that Turkey leads Pakistan and Pakistan leads Egypt by about 2 decades.

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

Brother, I think you misread my post as a military comparison. I commented on the institution of democracy, democratic process

Sorry about that brother. I stand corrected. I initially thought it was something else

 

[Ceylal]

@Mohamed Bin Tughlaq ,
My heart bleeds for you, especially knowing the country that you came from. For Algerians, and for the Africans, the Sahrawis questions represent is of the existential order. You have no idea about sacrifice that Algeria and other African nations has to live thru to gain their respective freedom, because your country as other Arab moslem countries were just created with a ruler and a pencil on a drunken night!
You have no right to talk or discuss or debate a subject that you totally escapes you and your like.

Just have a look on how many foreign military bases you have in your country? Thattel the world that you have no concept of the meaning of the word freedom...You are not even a citizen, you are like Morocco, you try to defend, but like other Muslim parcel under a wren, a just a subject...and your country is just another protectorat to one or many foreign power..same as Morocco.
Your country as well as other Muslim Arab country side with Morocco and that is understandable, if you have never been a man but a subject, subjects needs master.and that exactly what you all are. But Sahrawis are better men than any Arabs and any Moroccans save a few...The Sahara will be indépendant and his indépendance is irrelevant to Arab States position, because you have none, it is just dictated to you and you comply...My dog also comply, he knows that his well being depends on me!
For Islamophobia, Qatar, the Émirat,Saudi Arabia and others have given the dirty image of a retrograde, out dated, violent religion..Islam was a peaceful religion , until bédouins got hold of it...and we’re living the results and the consequences of an Islam that was emptied of its substance by incult individuals. In and out!

 

[Mohamed Bin Tughlaq]

@Mohamed Bin Tughlaq ,
My heart bleeds for you, especially knowing the country that you came from. For Algerians, and for the Africans, the Sahrawis questions represent is of the existential order. You have no idea about sacrifice that Algeria and other African nations has to live thru to gain their respective freedom, because your country as other Arab moslem countries were just created with a ruler and a pencil on a drunken night!
You have no right to talk or discuss or debate a subject that you totally escapes you and your like.

Just have a look on how many foreign military bases you have in your country? Thattel the world that you have no concept of the meaning of the word freedom...You are not even a citizen, you are like Morocco, you try to defend, but like other Muslim parcel under a wren, a just a subject...and your country is just another protectorat to one or many foreign power..same as Morocco.
Your country as well as other Muslim Arab country side with Morocco and that is understandable, if you have never been a man but a subject, subjects needs master.and that exactly what you all are. But Sahrawis are better men than any Arabs and any Moroccans save a few...The Sahara will be indépendant and his indépendance is irrelevant to Arab States position, because you have none, it is just dictated to you and you comply...My dog also comply, he knows that his well being depends on me!
For Islamophobia, Qatar, the Émirat,Saudi Arabia and others have given the dirty image of a retrograde, out dated, violent religion..Islam was a peaceful religion , until bédouins got hold of it...and we’re living the results and the consequences of an Islam that was emptied of its substance by incult individuals. In and out!

What in the world? You an imbecile and are you even muslim? You definitely don't represent the Algerian position but I see you as confuse Individual whos not even worth my time. There are many Algerian intellectuals but unfortunately you are not one of them. You live in a delulu land that doesn't even exist such as thinking everyone is after Algeria alone etc etc. Just a pile of nonsense

 

[Ceylal]

What in the world? You an imbecile and are you even muslim? You definitely don't represent the Algerian position but I see you as confuse Individual whos not even worth my time. There are many Algerian intellectuals but unfortunately you are not one of them. You live in a delulu land that doesn't even exist such as thinking everyone is after Algeria alone etc etc. Just a pile of nonsense

What a politically correct wahabi wannabe! you make me laugh when what a used to be dwelling, wearing a white bleached abaya take himself for an intellectual.. You certainly can’t compare Algeria to one of the many truck stop of the Middle East? Algeria has a bigger history than all the Arab states combined.Do I need to spell it out...