Egyptians hail Saudi Arabia's ruler for support in hour of need

[Yzd Khalifa]

Honestly, there is a huge part of the Egyptian population that has not appreciated these kind of help. I am not going into which group is the majority, but there is no real consensus.

Second, the only reason why they have given you some dollars is because of geo-political reasons; not because of charity. Even the Arabs from the Arabian Gulf aren't that stupid.

I'm afraid, Persia was pronounced dead fourteen centuries ago

They only stupids on all this were the Iranians Tell me, how does it feel like when you found out that the billions and billion of dollars you gave to the MB are now gone like a pie in the sky.

You know, you should have spend that money on saving your people dying as of lack of medications, feeding them, rather than outsourcing every single penny.

But like always, the Iranians never learn.

i think it is safe to say majorty of Egyptians are united the MB are the minoirty and i know in politics there is no friend it is just intersts i am glad that the intrests of Egypt and gulf are the same in dealing with the brotherhood

Let me remind you how helpful and friendly Egypt was to most of the GCC states.

I don't think everything that has to do with the Politics is based on interests, take King Fisal's as an example.

 

[Falcon29]

How dumb are you again? More or less all the greatest Muslims in most fields are from our lands. No amount of lies and crying can change that.
Besides Christianity and Judaism was followed by many of the people.

Anyway you are busy talking about alcohol? You serious? The people who lived in what is now Palestine were famous for their drinking and cultivation of wines etc. Like some people in what is today KSA were as well.

You were either pagans, Christians or Jews as well. Not Muslims. So what you talking about?

Even to this very day you have alcoholic beverages that have survived Islam. Care to mention one alcoholic beverage (traditional from KSA) let alone the Arabian Peninsula. You can't.

Ever heard about Arak?

Arak (drink) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Man, stop following a political party more than you follow Islam. I have no allegiance to any political party or any ruler etc. My allegiance is to Allah (swt) only.

Why do you keep pushing a false narrative? You think coward sitting with billion of dollars pledge allegiance to Allah(SWT)? Or the ones who payed with their blood to defend their rights and to fight for self determination and urge all Muslims to do so? Truth is it's not about political party, the one naturally feels they should support an Islamic cause, society, values is the one who pledges allegiance to Allah(SWT).

Say what you want about Palestinians, whomever, I know how Muslims all over were, are and have become. It's unfortunate it has to be this way. Yet I'm an activist for Islam, which is what the MB and other Islamic organizations in the world represent and people's who sympathize with these organizations(group of people).

These group of people in the past happened to be our Islamic leaders.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Look at the decadence... :/

When it comes to decadence, no one stands a chance to the Iranians.

 

[Falcon29]

@al-Hasani

Look at my signature...do you know who said this?

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Al-Hasani, you are looking it from a historical perspective, but you should realize that Egypt has written a lot of history itself the past two years. What the Saudis have done is what the followers of the Muslim Brotherhood would never forget.

Here is what Iran can never forget as well:

 

[Falcon29]

Here is what Iran can never forget as well:

Why do you think that's funny?

 

[ResurgentIran]

Why do you think that's funny?

Nvm him my friend. The fact that he thinks such matters are funny does not bother me, it just indicates the level of his moral bankruptcy and how low he is. I used to think Yzd was a good person, but he really lacks judgment.

 

[mahatir]

Look at Egypt's size. Over 80 million people. Out of all the Arab countries, Egypt is the leading country and Arab superpower.
I didnt mean Saudi Arabia ignited the protests, thats ridicioulous. But the perception is (among those supporting MB and Morsi) that Saudi aided the miltary coup.

And no MB would not invade Saudi Arabia or anything. Thats not whats at play here. But historically anything that happens in Egypt, have ripple effect on other Arab countries, because Egypt is the major Arab power. Any revolt could potentially have domino effect across the region and in especially in SA where people would may start to question the legitimacy of the Saudi royal family.
Egypt is one of the major power centers of gravity. People across Arab world look upon it and see what happens there and are influenced by it.

Btw Im not saying Al-Sisi will be overthrown. But as you can see, Egypt has a very political and rebellious population. So betting on military to sustain its grip on power (in politics), is a dangerous gamble. Thats all Im saying.

Egypt does not affect middle east in any shape , since camp david accord Egypt has Isolated itself from the middle east and only kept close relations with GCC countries for economic and political interests.

Egypt true has large population but the Egyptian mentality was never imperialistic , you hear about Turkish , persian and arab peninsula caliphs in Islamic history but never was there an Egyptian one . Egyptians were used by others to gain power in region but that is no longer the case now since Sadat 1970 revolution Arab nationalists were kicked out of Egypt.

After all Arab nationalism was made up by a Syrian Christian Michel aflaq but it never had any influence in GCC countries and ended in Egypt after the death of Nasser.

The Egyptian nation is not rebellious in its nature , the recent 25th January revolution was simply an attempt to copy what happened in Tunsia but since that time the country is slowly stabilizing and in no way what happened in 25th of January will happen again , many people in Egypt today even wish mubarak days would return.

Saudi Arabia is allied with Egyptian military not Al-Sissi and the deep state in Egypt runs based on institution not one person , Even if Sissi does not run for presidency they will create another Sissi to be propped up .

The MB only won the egyptian presidential election barely by 0.5% back in 2012 with the support of Al-nour party and secular opposition , today both of these political grouping support the Egyptian military after they realized the threat and danger of political Islamic groups like Alqauada , Hezbollah and Muslim brotherhood.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Why do you think that's funny?

Ask your Iranian friends why are they using such language.

We only respond to it. Next time, trace back their charm offenses.

Nvm him my friend. The fact that he thinks such matters are funny does not bother me, it just indicates the level of his moral bankruptcy and how low he is. I used to think Yzd was a good person, but he really lacks judgment.

Nothing against you or your people, maybe you should nurture your fellow countrymen.

Next ...

 

[Surenas]

I'm afraid, Persia was pronounced dead fourteen centuries ago

Persia was Persia until 1934, when Persia changed its name into Iran.

They only stupids on all this were the Iranians Tell me, how does it feel like when you found out that the billions and billion of dollars you gave to the MB are now gone like a pie in the sky.

Please, use more emoticons. Might strengthen your arguments.

Firstly, Iranians never game billions of dollars to MB. In fact, Iran did promise to help their economy, especially when it came to tourism, but this was called of very quickly after some fanatic Salafists were so insecure and scared that Iranians may converse the Egyptians into Shias.

You and all other sandal-wearing Arabs are truly pathetic.

I remember when you guys were trolling in the Iranian section when Arab media reported that Morsi wasn't planning to visit Iran. Then suddenly he did. You guys became silent, only to raise your voice again when Morsi was calling Assad a dictator in Tehran. Back then Morsi was a hero to you guys, only to betray him later by supporting a bloody coup against a democratically elected government.

You Arabs don't know such thing as honesty and loyalty.

You know, you should have spend that money on saving your people dying as of lack of medications, feeding them, rather than outsourcing every single penny.

We are doing quite fine, but we have room for improvement. Iranians are making their own medicines, largely, but were dependent on certain medicines from the West. This seems to be over now since the sanctions has been loosened.

But like always, the Iranians never learn.

We are in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Bahrein, Abu Musa, Iraq, etc. We do not only learn, but also teach.

 

[al-Hasani]

Why do you keep pushing a false narrative? You think coward sitting with billion of dollars pledge allegiance to Allah(SWT)? Or the ones who payed with their blood to defend their rights and to fight for self determination and urge all Muslims to do so? Truth is it's not about political party, the one naturally feels they should support an Islamic cause, society, values is the one who pledges allegiance to Allah(SWT).

Say what you want about Palestinians, whomever, I know how Muslims all over were, are and have become. It's unfortunate it has to be this way. Yet I'm an activist for Islam, which is what the MB and other Islamic organizations in the world represent and people's who sympathize with these organizations(group of people).

These group of people in the past happened to be our Islamic leaders.

Which false narrative is that? You were the one who started insulting KSA and Arabs out of nowhere. I returned the favor to get you back to the ground and realize the ground realities of which you wisely decided not to counter since those were more or less known facts.
You were insulting the heritage of the greatest Muslims on nearly all fields and making lies about their situation today which you know nothing about at all. Going as far as posting false clips not from KSA to make a false point. Being hypocritical was another thing you excelled in.

Still going to talk about some dances, music and alcohol when you lead in that? As I said you even have traditional ALCOHOLIC beverages while we have not had any since the coming of Islam. You talked about traditional dances while none of our traditional dances are even as revealing as the traditional Palestinian dance of dabke.

You dared to talk about a Islamic rule when 90% of the time of the existance of Palestine as a entity it has been headed by secular and nationalist people such as Arafat all while KSA was ruled by Islamic law.

When most people in Palestine were adopting socialistic ideas in the 1960's and 1970's KSA was ruled by one of the most pious Muslim rulers of the modern age (King Faisal). All while your lovely Iran was ruled by the most decadent and Western ruler in the Middle East the Shah.

MB does not have a patent on the Islamic cause and millions of MUSLIM Egyptians took to the streets and demonstrated that.

I don't agree with the MB nor do I fully age with the Egyptian military. There are many things that I don't agree when it comes to that organization.

I side with the Egyptian people of which 90% are Muslims.

Yes, you are just doing what the MB are doing. Taking the patent of being a Muslim and representing the Muslim cause.

All the millions upon millions of Muslims who don't agree with the Muslim Brotherhood or are not its members (vast majority of all Muslims) chase to be Muslims or are simply not devoted enough because they don't support some 84 year old political party made mostly up by opportunists hungry for power like any other political party of this world.

I am sorry but I can't take that seriously.

 

[mahatir]

You see this video Hasani tell me what the hell is going on! This is what Khaleej people want to be? Is that what you've become guys? Either secular European wanna be's or pagan Arabs?

Look at this: Saudi national day putting music all over the place dancing in the streets? You think this is positive? You think this makes our Prophet(SAW) proud? Music is haram! We all know this so why do you people become like this!?

You joke, Saudi Arabia is not religious no matter how many conservative laws they have in place they are obsessed with life, Palestinians in the West? Who cares about the west? How most Muslims become there?

As for the West Bank, what'd you think I support Hamas and the MB? We raise good people according to Islamic values, I'm not for what's happening in the West Bank! I'm for Islam. We don't allow such things in Gaza and this is what the MB wanted to change amongst many Muslims people's you coward! This is why you've guys hated them.

Drop the Islam card it does not work in GCC and Egypt, MB used the same card and look how they ended up .

 

[ResurgentIran]

Ask your Iranian friends why are they using such language.

We only respond to it. Next time, trace back their charm offenses.



Nothing against you or your people, maybe you should nurture your fellow countrymen.

Next ...

I beg to differ. When you bring up chemical weapons killing innocent people as a matter of amusment (and making smileys about it), it shows you have a serious mental problem. Maybe a few wires that need to be reconnected up there. Like I said, I used to think you were a good person with a good heart, and different from the other Saudis on the forum.
But you just showed a real lack of character.

 

[Surenas]

Ask your Iranian friends why are they using such language.

We only respond to it. Next time, trace back their charm offenses.

No need to defend your comments. Go on with it. I love these kind of arguments. Sandal-wearing Arabs on the other side of the Persian Gulf that are so scared of Iran so they use every Western media outlet to express their anger on Obama.

Persian Gulf Arabs are a bunch of useless, mercenary-loving and decadent desert-wanderers. Iran has more scientific output than the whole Arab League together. That is because Arabs, especially the Arabs in the Persian Gulf and Peninsula, are still living with camel-mentality.

 

[mahatir]

LOL. As usually you have no clue about what you are talking about. Population matters little. Otherwise Bangladesh would be a world power and other counties with big populations.

In this world economy matters the most and as of now KSA is the biggest Arab economy (by a considerably margin) and nothing looks to change that in the near future. KSA is also the biggest Arab country and above anything else it is the most significant Muslim country for the sole fact that it controls the holy sites for the 1.7 billion Muslims of the world and thus yield and ENORMOUS influence. Let alone the cultural, linguistic, political etc. Most Arabs would tell you today that KSA is at the forefront of the Arab world.
But in my opinion there is no leading Arab country that topples everyone by far but a few major ones. KSA and Egypt both belong in that group. Today though the most powerful regional Arab organization but a large margin is the GCC.

I know that you are the firs to try falsely to belittle KSA for your own agenda as an Iranian nationalist but that is not going to change the reality as of today.

Which perception is that? I have never met those people. They want to find a scapegoat for their own political failures.

Besides as I already told you then those people, even if KSA were neutral, would be against KSA simply because it is a monarchy just like the MB has tried to stir trouble up in other monarchies notably Jordan.

Let @BLACKEAGLE tell you about this. We discussed it several times in Arabic when Morsi was still around.

Well, KSA did not feel the events as you say they did. Because otherwise, going by your logic, KSA would be a carbon copy of Egypt. Not today but back then when Egypt was considerably stronger than most other Arab states.

The Egyptian military is the oldest and most powerful institution in Egypt and the only constant right after Al-Azhar and Islam. Don't you worry, they will continue to be guardians of Egypt since they know it better than any other organization in Egypt.

No dought Saudi Arabia is the strongest arab country but the MB has infiltrated many schools and universities in KSA and the recent failure of MB in Egypt has dealt a heavy blow to Islamic oppisition groups in Saudi Arabia and Gulf over-all.

Look at the latest kuwait assembly election , for the first time MB were heavily defeated with only 3 members making it to parliament after they held majority for past 3 elections.

The MB were far more dangerous than Shia or any external power on the Gulf .