Egyptian Armed Forces

[The SC]

The sweet behind view of the Gowind..

I will let the Greeks do what ever they want to in an exercise as long as they give me the tech of that nice cruise missile of theirs..won't you? BTW, Greece has always been a great sea force since old time..
How about if some Egyptian Apache pilots are with the Greeks on those Apaches.. it is a training possibility too..
I see togetherness in a joint effort, where Egypt is offering the Sea part and the Greeks the air part of it.. and it can be the opposite in other exercises.. but you are right somehow.. and I don't blame you for wanting to see the Egyptian Helicopter pilots bouncing on and off the Egyptian ships.. I just understand that this is a joint exercise.. and they have designed and planned it in a different way then we expected... for some reasons.. only the planners know..

 

[mekawy]

The sweet behind view of the Gowind..

I will let the Greeks do what ever they want to in an exercise as long as they give me the tech of that nice cruise missile of theirs..won't you? BTW, Greece has always been a great sea force since old time..

MAKEDON missile is good , but i think it contains American components which won't be available for us

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Gomig-21]

The sweet behind view of the Gowind..

Hahaaa, nothing like a sexy back end of a Corvette lol. Although I do prefer the one with 4 wheels on it TBH.

I will let the Greeks do what ever they want to in an exercise as long as they give me the tech of that nice cruise missile of theirs..won't you?

But is that the deal here? Not aware of anything of the sort, are you?

BTW, Greece has always been a great sea force since old time..

No question about that. The history of the Greek navy is storied and traditioned almost unlike any other. It's an honor for us to be allies with them in this respect.

I see togetherness in a joint effort, where Egypt is offering the Sea part and the Greeks the air part of it..

That's a good way of looking at it, SC. I must admit I didn't think of it in those terms. Makes perfect sense. We can basically "rent out" our LHDs for them to use, but that also means we're involved on a military ally-ship to the full extent, in an event of a war.

I also think that perhaps it's also a "teaching" exercise. There's no shame in admitting such a thing as it looks and smells the part. They could very well be teaching us how to enact and execute the process of flying choppers off the deck and coordinating multi-ship directionals within a strike group or fleet. Something we do have a lot of experience in but not with the participation of LHDs in the process.

Nice post, @Zarvan . It's about time you pitched in around here, man.

Egypt has a vaunted air defense network that is also rich in history and very potent MashAllah. Take just those two types of SAM systems above. While older systems, they have been modernized and I bet are still quite lethal by today's standards. The SA-6 and the SA-2 were the two mostly involved in downing over 100 Israeli jets in 1973. I believe that Egypt holds the record for most shot down fighter jets in the modern era if you combine the 25 days of the October War and the 3 years of the War of Attrition, more-so than Vietnam in the 10 years of fighting the United States. I think the record stands alone with just the 25 days in 1973. As a matter of fact, if you look at the SA-6, there are 3 missiles on each tracked vehicle. The system (if I'm not mistaken) is designed so that it takes 3 missiles per aircraft to down it. Many of the air defense officers who commanded the air defense brigades and positions in 1973 talked about how many missiles they fired at Israeli jets and the numbers are STAGGERING! In all of that, there was a calculation that was mentioned by one of the Egyptian commanders that the Soviets had instructed the Egyptians while training them that it would take an average of 5 SA-2s to overwhelm and down a fighter. I forget his name but he ended up averaging 3 missiles per each fighter he downed and holds the record. So if you take 100 jets downed, for example, times that by an average of 4 missiles per aircraft, that's 400 missiles fired in a span of 25 days! The number is probably even higher. Just think of that for a second. That's a lot of missiles blasting the skies over the Suez Canal and Sinai. Fun tidbit.

 

[Zarvan]

Hahaaa, nothing like a sexy back end of a Corvette lol. Although I do prefer the one with 4 wheels on it TBH.



But is that the deal here? Not aware of anything of the sort, are you?



No question about that. The history of the Greek navy is storied and traditioned almost unlike any other. It's an honor for us to be allies with them in this respect.



That's a good way of looking at it, SC. I must admit I didn't think of it in those terms. Makes perfect sense. We can basically "rent out" our LHDs for them to use, but that also means we're involved on a military ally-ship to the full extent, in an event of a war.

I also think that perhaps it's also a "teaching" exercise. There's no shame in admitting such a thing as it looks and smells the part. They could very well be teaching us how to enact and execute the process of flying choppers off the deck and coordinating multi-ship directionals within a strike group or fleet. Something we do have a lot of experience in but not with the participation of LHDs in the process.



Nice post, @Zarvan . It's about time you pitched in around here, man.

Egypt has a vaunted air defense network that is also rich in history and very potent MashAllah. Take just those two types of SAM systems above. While older systems, they have been modernized and I bet are still quite lethal by today's standards. The SA-6 and the SA-2 were the two mostly involved in downing over 100 Israeli jets in 1973. I believe that Egypt holds the record for most shot down fighter jets in the modern era if you combine the 25 days of the October War and the 3 years of the War of Attrition, more-so than Vietnam in the 10 years of fighting the United States. I think the record stands alone with just the 25 days in 1973. As a matter of fact, if you look at the SA-6, there are 3 missiles on each tracked vehicle. The system (if I'm not mistaken) is designed so that it takes 3 missiles per aircraft to down it. Many of the air defense officers who commanded the air defense brigades and positions in 1973 talked about how many missiles they fired at Israeli jets and the numbers are STAGGERING! In all of that, there was a calculation that was mentioned by one of the Egyptian commanders that the Soviets had instructed the Egyptians while training them that it would take an average of 5 SA-2s to overwhelm and down a fighter. I forget his name but he ended up averaging 3 missiles per each fighter he downed and holds the record. So if you take 100 jets downed, for example, times that by an average of 4 missiles per aircraft, that's 400 missiles fired in a span of 25 days! The number is probably even higher. Just think of that for a second. That's a lot of missiles blasting the skies over the Suez Canal and Sinai. Fun tidbit.

I think addition of PANTSIR S2 and S400 one more Air Defense system will add some real fire power. But Egypt would also have to work that in case of war with Israel. Israel doesn't manage to jam Egypt's Air Defense Radar systems

 

[HannibalBarca]

I think addition of PANTSIR S2 and S400 one more Air Defense system will add some real fire power. But Egypt would also have to work that in case of war with Israel. Israel doesn't manage to jam Egypt's Air Defense Radar systems

EGY Air Defence is "enough" for today... It's better to put those billions and billions into renewing the Airforce and Navy instead of few S400s or any other AirDef sys...

 

[The SC]

I think addition of PANTSIR S2 and S400 one more Air Defense system will add some real fire power. But Egypt would also have to work that in case of war with Israel. Israel doesn't manage to jam Egypt's Air Defense Radar systems

They couldn't do that in 1973 when they had a big advantage Technology wise.. It is doubtful they can now.. with almost the same tech in Egyptian armed forces..

Hahaaa, nothing like a sexy back end of a Corvette lol. Although I do prefer the one with 4 wheels on it TBH.



But is that the deal here? Not aware of anything of the sort, are you?



No question about that. The history of the Greek navy is storied and traditioned almost unlike any other. It's an honor for us to be allies with them in this respect.



That's a good way of looking at it, SC. I must admit I didn't think of it in those terms. Makes perfect sense. We can basically "rent out" our LHDs for them to use, but that also means we're involved on a military ally-ship to the full extent, in an event of a war.

I also think that perhaps it's also a "teaching" exercise. There's no shame in admitting such a thing as it looks and smells the part. They could very well be teaching us how to enact and execute the process of flying choppers off the deck and coordinating multi-ship directionals within a strike group or fleet. Something we do have a lot of experience in but not with the participation of LHDs in the process.



Nice post, @Zarvan . It's about time you pitched in around here, man.

Egypt has a vaunted air defense network that is also rich in history and very potent MashAllah. Take just those two types of SAM systems above. While older systems, they have been modernized and I bet are still quite lethal by today's standards. The SA-6 and the SA-2 were the two mostly involved in downing over 100 Israeli jets in 1973. I believe that Egypt holds the record for most shot down fighter jets in the modern era if you combine the 25 days of the October War and the 3 years of the War of Attrition, more-so than Vietnam in the 10 years of fighting the United States. I think the record stands alone with just the 25 days in 1973. As a matter of fact, if you look at the SA-6, there are 3 missiles on each tracked vehicle. The system (if I'm not mistaken) is designed so that it takes 3 missiles per aircraft to down it. Many of the air defense officers who commanded the air defense brigades and positions in 1973 talked about how many missiles they fired at Israeli jets and the numbers are STAGGERING! In all of that, there was a calculation that was mentioned by one of the Egyptian commanders that the Soviets had instructed the Egyptians while training them that it would take an average of 5 SA-2s to overwhelm and down a fighter. I forget his name but he ended up averaging 3 missiles per each fighter he downed and holds the record. So if you take 100 jets downed, for example, times that by an average of 4 missiles per aircraft, that's 400 missiles fired in a span of 25 days! The number is probably even higher. Just think of that for a second. That's a lot of missiles blasting the skies over the Suez Canal and Sinai. Fun tidbit.

True.. love the Corvette!

In 2010, it started development of a cruise missile type HSC-1 Makedon in cooperation with other Greek companies, including Axon Engineering (which undertook parts of the engine development). The missile is designed to be 4.5 metres (15 ft) long, weigh 1050 kg and reach a maximum speed of 1100 km/h. The future of the whole project is uncertain, though, due to Greece's drastically reduced[clarification needed] defense budgets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSK_Defense
HSC-1 Makedon

+ other goodies

Erevos MALE UAV

Phaethon G series UAV and Kyon mini UAV

Seirios 95 USV

http://survincity.com/2010/09/greek-response-to-turkey-cruise-missile-hsc-1/
Heard there were a lot of JVs between the two..

 

[DavidSling]

They couldn't do that in 1973 when they had a big advantage Technology wise.. It is doubtful they can now.. with almost the same tech in Egyptian armed forces..

big advantage in technology in 73? what?

 

[The SC]

big advantage in technology in 73? what?

Why are you playing dumb?
Everything was at least a generation in advance over the Egyptian gear.. but to no avail!

 

[Zarvan]

They couldn't do that in 1973 when they had a big advantage Technology wise.. It is doubtful they can now.. with almost the same tech in Egyptian armed forces..


True.. love the Corvette!

In 2010, it started development of a cruise missile type HSC-1 Makedon in cooperation with other Greek companies, including Axon Engineering (which undertook parts of the engine development). The missile is designed to be 4.5 metres (15 ft) long, weigh 1050 kg and reach a maximum speed of 1100 km/h. The future of the whole project is uncertain, though, due to Greece's drastically reduced[clarification needed] defense budgets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSK_Defense
HSC-1 Makedon

+ other goodies

Erevos MALE UAV

Phaethon G series UAV and Kyon mini UAV

Seirios 95 USV

http://survincity.com/2010/09/greek-response-to-turkey-cruise-missile-hsc-1/
Heard there were a lot of JVs between the two..

Sorry when it comes to cyber warfare. Israel is way way way head than any Arab country

 

[The SC]

Sorry when it comes to cyber warfare. Israel is way way way head than any Arab country

That is what people think..Arabs are more discreet about what they have.. and we were not talking about cyber warfare.. we were talking about jamming capabilities.. Egypt used some jamming in the Sinai campaign recently against terrorists..and apparently it has jammed half of Usrael cell phone towers..according to Usrael news..

 

[Crocodile]

I did mention that it probably is taking a long time for the Egyptian navy to get acclimated to navigating and deploying 2 LHDs, so I am aware of that and I don't have huge expectations TBH. Heck it's taken me 4 years to get used to my 30ft bowrider and I still am very nervous when I dock it at the marina. And I'm also aware that even if they were flying choppers off the deck, be it Apaches or Gazelles (which we know they are using those for training) or whatever other helos, they're not showing much of that for obvious reasons.

I have to agree with you on that, with the recent formidable gas discoveries, we should be more vigilant to the saber rattling of the mad sultan and his tendency to harass and steel from his weaker neighbors. Given these circumstances, the building up of our naval power can't go fast enough, we need to step up our game or we'll be next.

 

[The SC]

Alexandria Shipyard has already laid down its 2nd #Gowind corvette. The vessel will be named after the city of Marsa Matruh & is expected to be launched next year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1012816723731415040

 

[The SC]

Major General al-Ghabari: We made "19" adjustments to the American M1A1 Tank and this has angered the Americans..