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MEDUSA-6 2018
Just as I said that, that video comes out and man is that a rockin' video! Love it.
BTW, this is what irks me a bit: look at the Greeks flying off our Mistral with their Apaches like it's not even a thing, 2nd nature. They're bouncing their Chinooks, their Seahawks and even the Cypriot Huey was bouncing off the Mistral deck yet there isn't a single Egyptian helo in sight. What the heck is up with that? Mesh Ma32oul keda?! Where are all our vaunted Apaches? Where are all our Chinook and Seaking and even by now, one or two Ka-52 Alligators should be able to jump on and off. Not too happy about that lack-luster effort in that regard. We should be participating with a lot more of our own aviation equipment.
And the other thing, while the Avenger was a brilliant solution, WTH is taking them so long to get the built'in systems? I hope it's not $. But we definitely need to see a lot more from our helicopters getting involved in these exercises. It looks like our Greek brothers have a better hang of it than we do!
Maybe Pilots for Mistral Deck aren't ready? (Aka still in training)
I'm sure that has a lot to do with it, especially for the Ka-52s. But what about all the others? We've been flying Apaches for what, 25 years? Seakings for 40+ years? Chinooks? Mi-8/17s? Gazelles etc. If the Greeks are bouncing on and off the deck of the Gamal Abdel Nasser like that, where are our Apaches? I thought this was a combined arms navy exercise, emphasis on "combined"?
What's even a little bit disheartening is that the helos that will eventually end up on the Mistrals are not even ordered yet if I'm not mistaken. I don't think the contract for the Katrans has been signed. @Frogman @MICA
So I can only imagine how many years from now will the two mistrals be fully equipped and operational.
I realize that big ticket items like LHDs are no joke, and it takes A LOT of time not only to equip them properly and use them to their full potential, but to learn and train in the principles of just navigating those huge beasts is definitely something that will take a while. We haven't even seen any embarking or disembarking of heavy armor either, just APCs and small IFVs from what I've seen. So that part of the process is still to come. Get some tanks on those things and unload them on a simulation invasion.
The previous Vid was more like a "Greece" exercice with EGY and Cyprus as observers than a Tri-Party one... (90+% was Greek equipements/Forces in action)
As for Greece, Deck exercices are "common" when you take into account their experience in NATO ones...
With such "One" Sided exercice, you have to think (IMO) it's more a PR move against other Regional entities than something to really "Work together" so such behavior is understandable.
Inshallah, the NExt one will be be more "equal" and more interesting for EGY, with available Ka on the Mistral.
I message to Turkey, you think?
So I can only imagine how many years from now will the two mistrals be fully equipped and operational.
No need to get mad at them.. I am pretty sure the Egyptian Apache and other helicopters' pilots have a lot of time in flights from and to the Mistrals, they wanted the guests to get that experience as well.. Most likely some Egyptian naval officers conducted maeuvers they are not used to too much, that is what exercises are for..let's our teams do everything together with the same standards..Just as I said that, that video comes out and man is that a rockin' video! Love it.
BTW, this is what irks me a bit: look at the Greeks flying off our Mistral with their Apaches like it's not even a thing, 2nd nature. They're bouncing their Chinooks, their Seahawks and even the Cypriot Huey was bouncing off the Mistral deck yet there isn't a single Egyptian helo in sight. What the heck is up with that? Mesh Ma32oul keda?! Where are all our vaunted Apaches? Where are all our Chinook and Seaking and even by now, one or two Ka-52 Alligators should be able to jump on and off. Not too happy about that lack-luster effort in that regard. We should be participating with a lot more of our own aviation equipment.
And the other thing, while the Avenger was a brilliant solution, WTH is taking them so long to get the built'in systems? I hope it's not $. But we definitely need to see a lot more from our helicopters getting involved in these exercises. It looks like our Greek brothers have a better hang of it than we do!
Russia Wins Tender for Ka-52K Helicopter Supplies to EgyptI'm sure that has a lot to do with it, especially for the Ka-52s. But what about all the others? We've been flying Apaches for what, 25 years? Seakings for 40+ years? Chinooks? Mi-8/17s? Gazelles etc. If the Greeks are bouncing on and off the deck of the Gamal Abdel Nasser like that, where are our Apaches? I thought this was a combined arms navy exercise, emphasis on "combined"?
What's even a little bit disheartening is that the helos that will eventually end up on the Mistrals are not even ordered yet if I'm not mistaken. I don't think the contract for the Katrans has been signed. @Frogman @MICA
So I can only imagine how many years from now will the two mistrals be fully equipped and operational.
I realize that big ticket items like LHDs are no joke, and it takes A LOT of time not only to equip them properly and use them to their full potential, but to learn and train in the principles of just navigating those huge beasts is definitely something that will take a while. We haven't even seen any embarking or disembarking of heavy armor either, just APCs and small IFVs from what I've seen. So that part of the process is still to come. Get some tanks on those things and unload them on a simulation invasion.
No need to get mad at them..
I am pretty sure the Egyptian Apache and other helicopters' pilots have a lot of time in flights from and to the Mistrals,
let's our teams do everything together with the same standards..
Bil Mahl brother..it has been only 2 years since the Mistrals came to Egypt.. some corvettes and frigates take 2 years for sea trials alone..