Egyptian Armed Forces

[Annatar]

Why is Eygpt part of decade old blockage of Gaza

What blockade is Egypt part of ?​

Habibi, How do you think the weapons and rockets that Hamas possess got there, through Israeli land ? through the Sea (where Israeli ships are roaming) ? think about it.​

Hamas is considered a terrorist organization in Egypt, yes that is true. Mubarak let them build tunnels so they can get whatever they need. But since 2011, they betrayed us and freed the prisoners from the prisons in Egypt while the police was busy dealing with the protesters and they started killing Egyptian soldiers in Sinai and bombing police stations and hospitals, they even killed people praying in a mosque. We lost so many Egyptian soldiers in the war on terror in Sinai because of them.​

However Egypt has never publicly announced that Hamas is a terrorist organization so as not to give Israel and the west an excuse or any right to bomb or invade Gaza. And we have never been a part of blockade on Gaza, we only destroyed the tunnels (I don't think they destroyed all of them, some are monitored now by the army) through which Hamas militants were using to attack our soldiers.​

- A scene from the famous Egyptian series "The Choice" reenacts what happened in the Rafah massacre where terrorists attacked Egyptian soldiers in Sinai while having breakfast in Ramadan in 2012 (Real victims are shown at the end)​

- Another scene from the same series reenacting what happened in Perth square in Sinai where militants attacked a security point and killed everyone in 2017​

-- The footage that contain this logo on the top right are real footage from the militants' media​

- In the videograph.. Learn the full details of the Al-Rawda Mosque terrorist incident in Al-Arish in 2017​

There are many many more incidents like these.​

Last thing I want to say is that we differentiate between the Palestinian people and Hamas, and we are helping the Palestinian people as much as we can.​

 

[Foinikas]

What doesn't make sense to me is being a front alley to USA and then simultaneously claiming we are coming to liberate Palestinians

That's being delusional

Egypt has done more than enough for the Palestinians.

 

[ziaulislam]

Egypt has done more than enough for the Palestinians.

Yes,
However it's not right to say they aren't allies of USA and or Israel and aren't part of Gaza blockade and aren't part of policy of one state one Israel

May be there is difference of what is enough based upon people/relationship and clanship

Chinese, Russians, Persian, turks or even pushtoons won't call sitting tight and selling off your clansmen for slaughter as enough

Humanitarian aid to Gaza​

Egypt -> 5200 tonnes​

Rest of the World -> 1500 tonnes​

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watch| Aid convoys to Gaza move from Al-Arish, Egypt, towards the Rafah crossing​

Wounded Palestinians are being treated in Al-Arish hospital​

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The Minister of Health and the Governor of North Sinai inspect the departments of Al-Arish General Hospital to check on the services provided to our Palestinian brothers​

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Egypt started the construction of 3 residential cities in the Gaza Strip in addition to providing 500 million dollars as part of the reconstruction plan in 2021 as we are suffering economically in Egypt​

Footage taken this year of the progress of the residential cities being built in Gaza by Egypt​

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Keep sending humatarin aid along with bombs

"Israel gave it to us" hahaha. What do you suppose would've happened if they weren't so generous (kinda like how generous they are to the Gazan women & children right now and for the past 75 years), do you think we would've sat on our asses and oh say, waited................kinda like Pakistan with Kashmir? A lot of good that did. Or kinda like Syria did with the Golan Heights? A lot of good that did, too.

Sir.

Gaza IS NOT PART OF EGYPT! HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?

You keep parroting the "blockade by Egypt" lie when there is nothing of the sort. You just don't want to understand that Gaza and the Palestinians are not part of Egypt, despite all the guilt-laying trip you and your bandwagon jumpers keep trying to peddle. This seems to be a slippery concept, but we ARE NOT obligated to open our border as if it's a common territory and free for all. As difficult as that concept might be for you to understand, there is no complicity with the zionisist that you and your cohorts are trying to make it out to be. As a matter of fact, it's the complete opposite as we're not making it easy for them to absolve THEIR responsibility of conceding a Palestinian state. Are we anywhere near grasping that reality?

The fact is that Gaza is Palestine, it's its own "country", "open air prison", "torture territory" whatever you want to call it, OCCUPIED BY ISRAEL, not EGYPT. On our side of the border is ANOTHER COUNTRY! On the Israeli side is the OCCUPATION FORCES - RESPONSIBLE FOR GAZA, not Egypt! Should I say it one more time, or is that getting through?

Yet despite that somehow difficult concept for you to understand, we still allow tons of contraband to infiltrate and get to the hands of Hamas and whatever resistance needs it. I think that's pretty obvious but noooooo, that's not enough! On top of supporting the humanitarian aid which pours in there on a daily basis. These are undeniable facts no matter how hard you try to twist things.

You don't like it or it's not enough or not up to your standards, that's fine. You think somehow we're obligated to open a free-for-all border because you say so, good luck to you. You want to dismiss the fact that it's Israel's responsibility as the 'occupying force' and not Egypt, fine. Good luck to you but it is the right thing to do just as any sovereign nation would do if it were in the same position until the Palestinians get their own sovereignty. But we won't assist Israel in reaching its ultimate goal which is to make that Palestinian sovereignty untenable. Those are the reasons the Gaza border on the Egyptian side is dealt with and will continue to be dealt with the way it has been.

No amount of guilt-inducing or shaming on your part or any other band-wagon hitchhikers will change that or make it out to be any different than that.

Keep pushing the "blockade by Egypt" fallacy song and dance and the only reaction you'll get is laughter at how silly & goofy that is. The intentions for that song & dance are for obvious reasons far removed from any genuine empathy for the Palestinian people. Don't think we can't see through it.

Are you saying you won the 1974 war and took the land by force

Which sort of alternative history do we live in

You guys are basically demilitarized in your own country

 

[Foinikas]

Chinese, Russians, Persian, turks or even pushtoons won't call sitting tight and selling off your clansmen for slaughter as enough

They can save Palestinians if they want. They have been talking a lot and doing little. Let them use their economic strength(if they have) and military power to save Palestinians from annihilation. That's where they can look as strong as they claim to be. Both Turks and Iranians,both Russians and Chinese.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan took half kashmiris by force against an enemy that out numbers us 1:10

Check the population of Pakistan and india
You can think of Pakistan as isrealis against Arab

Even today we are doing more for kashmir then Arabs for Israel..

There would have already been a war with India if they even remotely did what Israel is doing with Palestinians

Kashmiris are enjoying equal rights not bombed to oblivion like Palestinians

Yes please do what we are doing in kashmiris and post a 8 lac military men in Sinai and pressure Israel into cease fire and don't normalize relationships like we don't have normal relationships with India


Oh wait

Funny part is Kashmir only relationship with pakistanis is religion nothing else


If it was something closer like langauge or ethnicity it would have been different story altogether

They can save Palestinians if they want. They have been talking a lot and doing little. Let them use their economic strength(if they have) and military power to save Palestinians from annihilation. That's where they can look as strong as they claim to be. Both Turks and Iranians,both Russians and Chinese.

Eygpt fought three wars with full equipment and support; realized it can't win from Israel after losing badly multiple times

So she said give us Sinai temporary (we won't build military infrastructure there) and you can slaughter Palestinians do whatever you want

Now it's no shame in admitting what they did. I mean everyone for themselves

Isrealis had to accept the deal under uncle sam pressure otherwise they wouldn't have evacuated the Sinai but hey one thing at a time

 

[ziaulislam]

And Palestinians supported India on kashmir issue, we realize the importance of India (and fact we thrawted their attempts to over throw Jordon)

We didn't take it personally

Eygpt need to make it military a working military rather then a clown involved in politics (which is happening to Pakistan military)

Develop nuclear weapons (yes, it's tough but dude take a position, isrealis have those)

You have the suez canal you can strong arm them

 

[ziaulislam]

Today Israelis can simply nuke you guys and none will care

There defense minister said it yesterday (though uncle sam asked him to be fired afterwards)

So stay in line don't pretend that Eygptian is anything more then friends and allies with uncle sam and Israel

Carter was by the way a pro two state guy, no American presidents or isrealis have accept a two state solution (isrealis have openly said that)
He is far more reasonable then Arabs will ever get

So don't expect uncle sam helping Arabs out of Israel sooner or later take northern sauid Arabia and Sinai and nuke a few cities while they are doing it

 

[Annatar]

You guys are basically demilitarized in your own country

Refer to the posts below, Sinai is not demilitarized anymore. Strategically we won. Israel got a peace of paper which has no value, and we got our whole Sinai back.​

Egyptian army forces at Rafah border crossing​

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It is worth noting that under the Sisi administration, heavy Egyptian military equipment was deployed to Sinai for the first time since the peace treaty in 1979 in violation of the security agreements with Israel, imposing a fait accompli that led to the amendment of the security agreements in 2021!​

An analysis conducted by Lieutenant Colonel Eli Dekel, who served in the intelligence branch of the Israeli army for 20 years, shows Egyptian military expansion in Sinai under the Sisi administration.​

 

[Annatar]

Yes,
However it's not right to say they aren't allies of USA and or Israel and aren't part of Gaza blockade and aren't part of policy of one state one Israel

Again with the blockade ?​

Have you even read my post ?​

And when has Egypt ever declared that it supports one state solution ?​

watch| Aid convoys to Gaza move from Al-Arish, Egypt, towards the Rafah crossing​

 

[ziaulislam]

Refer to the posts below, Sinai is not demilitarized anymore. Strategically we won. Israel got a peace of paper which has no value, and we got our whole Sinai back.​

No you sold Palestine for Sinai
That's a pretty obvious

You accepted Israel that's a very pricey piece of paper

Though once Israel is done with Palestine it's coming back and there is nothing eygptian can do about it looking at level of preparation

Again with the blockade ?​

Have you even read my post ?​

And when has Egypt ever declared that it supports one state solution ?​

Hamas is terrorist organization per Eygpt
Blockade is done with coordination by Eygpt - Israel

For all practical purposes Eygpt and Any arab country that accepted Israel have accepted the one state solution, simply because they accepted Israel with no Palestine in place..what does that mean it's simple..

 

[Annatar]

No you sold Palestine for Sinai
That's a pretty obvious

You accepted Israel that's a very pricey piece of paper

Though once Israel is done with Palestine it's coming back and there is nothing eygptian can do about it looking at level of preparation

Okay, if you say so ​

 

[ziaulislam]

Okay, if you say so ​

If I accept someone claims on land but not the claim of other person what does that mean???

Official position of Israel is no two state solution as per natenyaho

While Arabs have accepted Israel what does that mean?

Sooner or later the Palestine authority in occupied West bank is going to accept israeli rule and then we will all blame the hopeless Palestinians and wash our hands off

While the ones fighting will be labelled as terrorists as we have these days (Hamas is elected terrorists of Palestine per all Arab states hence all people of Gaza are terrorists by extension!?)

Anyway what I am worried about is Eygpt and Saudi Arabia

Palestine was done ages ago

With isrealis military and nuclear weapons I see no hope for these countries

 

[Annatar]

If I accept someone claims on land but not the claim of other person what does that mean???

You know nothing. Sadat asked Yasser Arafat to attend the Camp David accords with him and demand the establishment of Palestine on the 1967 borders, but Yasser Arafat refused. Saeed Kamal (Director of the Palestine Liberation Organization office in Egypt at the time) revealed this information on RT Arabic. Let someone translate this video to you.​

 

[ziaulislam]

You know nothing. Sadat asked Yasser Arafat to attend the Camp David accords with him and demand the establishment of Palestine on the 1967 borders, but Yasser Arafat refused. Saeed Kamal (Director of the Palestine Liberation Organization office in Egypt at the time) revealed this information on RT Arabic. Let someone translate this video to you.​

"He says she says"...

But no one can dispute that Palestine was sold that day in exchange for Sinai

However marked my words, Eygpt is next and there is nothing Eygpt can do about it

Eygptians could have fought and take Sinai by force

Anyways Syria and Iraq are in ruined may be it was smart not to fight the Jews and just surrender

I won't pollute the thread anymore

But to think eygptian armed forces stand any chance against a nuclear powered IDF is a falicy to begin with

Without nuclear weapons and delivering mechanisms all it takes is one button for Eygpt to be destroyed..as netanyahu minister said a few days ago

 

[Annatar]

You know nothing. Sadat asked Yasser Arafat to attend the Camp David accords with him and demand the establishment of Palestine on the 1967 borders, but Yasser Arafat refused. Saeed Kamal (Director of the Palestine Liberation Organization office in Egypt at the time) revealed this information on RT Arabic. Let someone translate this video to you.​

In addition to this, Yasser Arafat lied about Sadat not mentioning Palestine in his speech at the Knesset citing IDF minister of defense Moshe Dayan's diary . While literally in his speech you can hear him clearly stating that Israel is still occupying the Palestinian land and that there will be no real peace until a Palestinian state is declared on the 1967 borders.​

However marked my words, Eygpt is next and there is nothing Eygpt can do about it

I'm so scared, oh my god! ​

I'm done with you, Bye troll! ​