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Great video, man. Did you see the squadron of Shengyang F-6s around 1:28 or so? Besides the scuds and a lot of other goodies, if there was anywhere in the world where an underground storage facility would be to move such high level military equipment to the defensive battlefield that basically excluded the headache of dealing with the Suez Canal and not just that, but already being in the thick of things right in the battlefield and not having to wait for them to get there by ground transport where they'd be obliterated by AWACs and attack bombers or aircraft setting up traps after being spotted by satellite and or radars and AWACs. The good old genius of Sa'ad El Din Al Shazly.

Which BTW, I'm pretty positive you knew about Serbia doing the same thing but in its mountains with an incredibly technologically advanced underground setup for scoots of MiG-21s.

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Then you got that old Jewish guy talking about the Egyptian forces increasing their 22k to 44k soldiers in Zone A and all he mentioned was the increases in this, that and the other thing without ever considering or even mentioning once that because of that horrible treaty we agreed to sign has put us in this position where we need to do whatever it takes to protect Egypt proper from any terrorism coming from their side of the border. That just angers you to no end I tell you and then the dingdong says the only reason for all this sudden and abrupt buildup is for one reason only and that is Egypt must be getting ready to attack israel. Man thank God people like this clown royale are nowhere near those in charge of making serious decisions because the next 1967 these A-holes ever attempt thinking or trying to sell it to the world as some silly preemptive load of mumbo jumbo jive, the spanking they'll be getting will be unlike any another in the history of warfare.
America's nightmare penetration of Egypt and China F-16 fighters

 
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Egypt, CETC, and radars ToT update

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It was previously reported that the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production (MoMP) was in talks with China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC) for a transfer of technology (ToT) and production.


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The Italian newspaper, la Repubblica, reported that Egypt entered into negotiations with Italy to purchase 4 aircraft for the ATR 72MP maritime patrol
It is a plane produced by the Italian airline Leonardo specialized in monitoring, espionage and electronic jamming.
The ATR 72MP features command, control, communications and hardware capabilities
and Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) which enables sea lane traffic control, fisheries protection, anti-smuggling, anti-drug operations, exclusive economic zones (EEZ) patrols as well as search and rescue (SAR) operations.
The aircraft can also be used to transport personnel and materials, and can perform anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (AsuW) and electronic intelligence (ELINT) missions.
 
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America's nightmare penetration of Egypt and China F-16 fighters


This was actually a big problem they brought onto themselves by trying to recruit Chinese engineers to do whatever modifications on the avionics capabilities which sounds like they wanted to increase the aircrafts' EW capabilities and even the radar and sounds like there was also some weaponizing theorizing at least attempted. But what I don't understand is why did they try doing this without even consulting the US first? It's almost as if even the most unknowledgeable individual would know that US F-16s in Egypt are 100% under US terms when it comes to any type of modification of any sort. So, it baffles me that they attempted to do this without at the least telling the Americans (even as painful as that might be to do) that they would be seeking these possible mods from China and then go from there. But doing it behind the US' back and then getting busted has created the major part of the mistrust that exists until today. What's yours and others' opinions on them attempting that?
 
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https://www.tacticalreport.com/news/article/60857-egypt-cetc-and-radars-tot-update
Egypt, CETC, and radars ToT update

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It was previously reported that the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production (MoMP) was in talks with China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC) for a transfer of technology (ToT) and production.

Despite our occasional doubts of TR's veracity and truthfulness or accuracy of their information, especially when they make you buy the article to read it lol, this one has been repeatedly mentioned by several sources, so the chances of it being true are much higher than usual.

Despite Egypt already having displayed several incredible types of domestic & indigenous radars, getting ToT from a superpower like China which has been at it in a very high and modern level is an excellent choice & decision as Egyptian military always makes. Or at least has been making on a constant level since 2013.

It's also interesting that this would be added to an already quite vast and very strong types and numbers of movable wheeled & tracked radars vehicles that Egypt already has. I think the ToT (like the professor @The SC always reminds us of how important it now is or has become is so very true) is most likely the ultimate selling point in this case because of the huge number of systems already in the EAF.

The Italian newspaper, la Repubblica, reported that Egypt entered into negotiations with Italy to purchase 4 aircraft for the ATR 72MP maritime patrol
It is a plane produced by the Italian airline Leonardo specialized in monitoring, espionage and electronic jamming.
The ATR 72MP features command, control, communications and hardware capabilities
and Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) which enables sea lane traffic control, fisheries protection, anti-smuggling, anti-drug operations, exclusive economic zones (EEZ) patrols as well as search and rescue (SAR) operations.
The aircraft can also be used to transport personnel and materials, and can perform anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (AsuW) and electronic intelligence (ELINT) missions.

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This was also reported about 6 or 8 months ago so just like the radar, probably very true and what a beauty of an aircraft with a lot of maritime capabilities. Just look at all the sensors it has on the front, side and rear of the fuselage. The fact that they mention nonchalantly that it also periodically performs ASW missions at the end of all its incredible capabilities they mention most likely means that it excels in that specific capability. However, even for super-duper maritime aircraft such as the P-8 Poseidon (which this beauty does everything the same) still doesn't mean that just because it's an ASW that all submarines seen by it are screwed. Reason being is that most of the nuclear-powered subs almost never surface for whatever reason or get within periscope depth (which I think is around 15 meters or so) so that they can be seen. So that aspect makes it almost impossible to be a truly effective ASW hunter. Even modern diesel/electric submarines that barely need to surface do it quickly and effectively and then return to the eternal depths of the seas and oceans very quickly, which also makes them very difficult to target and destroy or even hit close enough.

I thought the EN had their eyes on 2 of these bad boys, but now this is saying 4 aircraft? Nab that would be great and certainly boost the 8 Seasprites very nicely and they certainly already have the appropriate helping fighters to assist them in any way. Hopefully this deal happens for sure and if it does, then we will really need to keep an eye on Leonardo and all the stuff we're buying off of them with the stupid merger they just made a few months ago.

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Nice torpedo or sonarpedo?

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Despite our occasional doubts of TR's veracity and truthfulness or accuracy of their information, especially when they make you buy the article to read it lol, this one has been repeatedly mentioned by several sources, so the chances of it being true are much higher than usual.

Despite Egypt already having displayed several incredible types of domestic & indigenous radars, getting ToT from a superpower like China which has been at it in a very high and modern level is an excellent choice & decision as Egyptian military always makes. Or at least has been making on a constant level since 2013.

It's also interesting that this would be added to an already quite vast and very strong types and numbers of movable wheeled & tracked radars vehicles that Egypt already has. I think the ToT (like the professor @The SC always reminds us of how important it now is or has become is so very true) is most likely the ultimate selling point in this case because of the huge number of systems already in the EAF.



This was also reported about 6 or 8 months ago so just like the radar, probably very true and what a beauty of an aircraft with a lot of maritime capabilities. Just look at all the sensors it has on the front, side and rear of the fuselage. The fact that they mention nonchalantly that it also periodically performs ASW missions at the end of all its incredible capabilities they mention most likely means that it excels in that specific capability. However, even for super-duper maritime aircraft such as the P-8 Poseidon (which this beauty does everything the same) still doesn't mean that just because it's an ASW that all submarines seen by it are screwed. Reason being is that most of the nuclear-powered subs almost never surface for whatever reason or get within periscope depth (which I think is around 15 meters or so) so that they can be seen. So that aspect makes it almost impossible to be a truly effective ASW hunter. Even modern diesel/electric submarines that barely need to surface do it quickly and effectively and then return to the eternal depths of the seas and oceans very quickly, which also makes them very difficult to target and destroy or even hit close enough.

I thought the EN had their eyes on 2 of these bad boys, but now this is saying 4 aircraft? Nab that would be great and certainly boost the 8 Seasprites very nicely and they certainly already have the appropriate helping fighters to assist them in any way. Hopefully this deal happens for sure and if it does, then we will really need to keep an eye on Leonardo and all the stuff we're buying off of them with the stupid merger they just made a few months ago.

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Nice torpedo or sonarpedo?

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True, Even TR said that Egypt was interestied to procure ATR-72 like fews months ago. Sometimes, it is reliable and sometime no.
 
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This was actually a big problem they brought onto themselves by trying to recruit Chinese engineers to do whatever modifications on the avionics capabilities which sounds like they wanted to increase the aircrafts' EW capabilities and even the radar and sounds like there was also some weaponizing theorizing at least attempted. But what I don't understand is why did they try doing this without even consulting the US first? It's almost as if even the most unknowledgeable individual would know that US F-16s in Egypt are 100% under US terms when it comes to any type of modification of any sort. So, it baffles me that they attempted to do this without at the least telling the Americans (even as painful as that might be to do) that they would be seeking these possible mods from China and then go from there. But doing it behind the US' back and then getting busted has created the major part of the mistrust that exists until today. What's yours and others' opinions on them attempting that?
Actually they made an analysis and study with the Chinese about replacing some components in case of necessity,, But..they didn't do the modifications per se.. and even this was too much for the US..
 
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Ah ok, so no procurement of armaments?

@sami_1 any idea how we will replace the old SA-2 and SA-3 any idea which system will replace? Will it be locally or with ToT?

For you guys, which system is to the best sys to replace them.

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SA-2 & SA-3 , SA-6 Systems Replacement Program
The Israelis are already completing that Egypt has received 8 S-300V / VM systems, and they are also being upgraded .

At the same time, Egypt had contracted with the Some on HQ-17 & HQ-18 systems
For each system

https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/...at/china/china-anti-access-area-denial/hq-18/


Some satellite images showed that Egypt had already disposed of 32 SA-2 batteries out of 40 before 2020.

It is reported that Egypt has requested a new batch of the HQ-17AE system, and of course other systems, to counter PGM/SWARM/GUIDED MISSILE.
Besides interest in Chinese laser artillery solutions

Besides, Egypt has already requested a copy of the BUK-M3 system
She said the development of this system mainly by integrating longer-range missiles is related to Egyptian requests, meaning that the development that the Russians have highlighted is in favor of Egypt.

The Chinese are currently competing with the Russians with the HQ-16FE system, with a range of 160 kilometers per missile, at a lower price than the Russian systems, which allows for easy replacement of the remaining SA-3 systems.
Egypt is benefiting from the old SA-2/3/6 systems to use them in training crews of Egyptian air defense systems or as training targets to shoot them down.

Currently, the problem remains to provide effective and cheap air defense systems in large quantities

The Egyptian missile AIN SAKR The continued development of new versions of it is vital, as the Russians are working on developing the VEBRA missile for a range of 10 kilometers.

What has been noticed is news circulating that Egypt negotiated the purchase of 12 batteries of the Serbian SA-6 system, and the negotiation with India on the AKASH system may be mainly related to the development of the SA-6 system.
The feed network of the Egyptian air defense systems was based on

150 Russian SA-2/3/6/9 batteries and 300 anti-aircraft artillery batteries
Part of the anti-aircraft artillery batteries were replaced by 100 SKY GARD / AMUN / CROTAL / TOR-M1 missile batteries.

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Egypt is in the orbit of developing a 20mm hexagonal tube, and it is believed that Egypt will produce a local version of the M61 Vulcan system.
With correction equipment developed locally to become similar to the Phalanx CIWS system in a complete local way to reduce the cost of manufacturing instead of us producing under license
It may produce a local copy of the 20mm Searanger naval guns, of which a portion of 20 cannons were produced for the Egyptian MEKO-200EG frigates, each frigate equipped with 4 cannons.

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Actually they made an analysis and study with the Chinese about replacing some components in case of necessity,, But..they didn't do the modifications per se.. and even this was too much for the US..

Indeed, lol. Interesting that they went through all that but the only thing that came out of it was the US getting all bent out of shape. Heck, I think that our northeast neighbors have made much worst violations with the Chinese and even others. I think Egypt has racked up either the 2nd or 3rd most 3rd-party infractions with US military equipment. Forget who said that it was right on this thread might've been Frogman but it makes sense.

Italian sources confirm that three deals have entered the final stage..

Is he actually saying the 24 M346 trainers package is one of those three or he's not sure? It sounded like he was just mentioning they were a major part of the original mega package.

The submarine radar is fascinating to me since this tells me they're either not happy with the ones in the Type 209s OR don't trust the Germans who might've given certain info about them to you know who that was screaming at them for making such a sale, or just upgraded and better AESA units like he mentioned.

He didn't say anything about the meteor but let me ask you, what is the situation with those and Saudi's request to purchase them - considering how many she's contracted and signing on for 72 more Tranche 4, she MUST be insisting on the missiles to be part of the deal, especially when Qatar got them the quickest with the Rafales. Not sure if they got them with their Typhoons yet but it probably won't be an issue if one aircraft model has them. Do you know if Saudi insisted they be part of the new 72?

Now if we could give you the Mirage 2000 that we don't need anymore...

This is the first I've heard of this. Is this actual info or you're just thinking with the new F-35s and especially the Rafales, the 2Ks aren't needed anymore? But did they raise the number of Rafales from 18?

They've upgraded those to the max and considering the success they've had with them in the Aegean Sea, those still have at least another 10 maybe 15 more years to go.
 
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This is the first I've heard of this. Is this actual info or you're just thinking with the new F-35s and especially the Rafales, the 2Ks aren't needed anymore? But did they raise the number of Rafales from 18?

They've upgraded those to the max and considering the success they've had with them in the Aegean Sea, those still have at least another 10 maybe 15 more years to go.
Nah,the Mirage 2000 EGM/BGM are probably going back to France. That was the rumor. But it would have been nice if we could give them to Egypt. The best ones we have are the Mirage 2000-5 Mk.II
The Rafale are 8 now. I think someone had said here it would have been nice if Egypt got those Mirage 2000 if Greece gets the Emirati ones.
 
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