Egyptian Armed Forces

[Ghostkiller]

@Hydration will you be in Alexandria (if you live there) when Naval Power Exhibition starts?

 

[The SC]

The puzzle of photos of the 16 thousand Egyptian pilots on the Emirati Mirage fighters

 

[Ghostkiller]

Looks like what TR is "true" about the GCC and Egypt air defense.

 

[Gomig-21]

The puzzle of photos of the 16 thousand Egyptian pilots on the Emirati Mirage fighters

I think he meant photos of F-16 Egyptian pilots but mistakenly wrote:

لغز صور طياري آلاف 16 المصريين​

Supposed to write F not Alf or Alaf.

Those are really sweet looking and a lot more advanced than the old ones in the EAF. There's that one pic where the crew is working on one of the single seaters and the panel that holds either the cameras or the black box or something of that sort was open and it looked like they had just put the box back in.

Then it has that very interesting pylon on the front right of the fuselage with what appears to be a light on it and probably carries the Damocles targeting pod or some other one. They also are upgraded to carry the SCALP-EG or in the UAE's case, the Storm Shadow/Black Shaheen and even the latest MICA IR & ER, just like the Hellenic Mirages 2Ks.

It would be very interesting if they end up with the EAF, especially after MBZ said Greece was a strong contender. He said they have something like 100 of them?

 

[Ghostkiller]

I think he meant photos of F-16 Egyptian pilots but mistakenly wrote:

لغز صور طياري آلاف 16 المصريين​

Supposed to write F not Alf or Alaf.

Those are really sweet looking and a lot more advanced than the old ones in the EAF. There's that one pic where the crew is working on one of the single seaters and the panel that holds either the cameras or the black box or something of that sort was open and it looked like they had just put the box back in.

Then it has that very interesting pylon on the front right of the fuselage with what appears to be a light on it and probably carries the Damocles targeting pod or some other one. They also are upgraded to carry the SCALP-EG or in the UAE's case, the Storm Shadow/Black Shaheen and even the latest MICA IR & ER, just like the Hellenic Mirages 2Ks.

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It would be very interesting if they end up with the EAF, especially after MBZ said Greece was a strong contender. He said they have something like 100 of them?

Can our Mirage 2k carry Mica and Scalp?

 

[Gomig-21]

Can our Mirage 2k carry Mica and Scalp?

Nope, just the older Matra Magic missiles and no SCALPs. They're just too old, wouldn't even be feasible to upgrade them which is why the EFT is very appealing as a replacement.

 

[The SC]

I think he meant photos of F-16 Egyptian pilots but mistakenly wrote:

لغز صور طياري آلاف 16 المصريين​

Supposed to write F not Alf or Alaf.

Those are really sweet looking and a lot more advanced than the old ones in the EAF. There's that one pic where the crew is working on one of the single seaters and the panel that holds either the cameras or the black box or something of that sort was open and it looked like they had just put the box back in.

Then it has that very interesting pylon on the front right of the fuselage with what appears to be a light on it and probably carries the Damocles targeting pod or some other one. They also are upgraded to carry the SCALP-EG or in the UAE's case, the Storm Shadow/Black Shaheen and even the latest MICA IR & ER, just like the Hellenic Mirages 2Ks.

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It would be very interesting if they end up with the EAF, especially after MBZ said Greece was a strong contender. He said they have something like 100 of them?

He means Al F-16.. HaHaHa!

Well..the UAE has promised Egypt and Morocco a part of it..the rest might go to Greece..but these guys are getting the F-35 and the Rafale..

 

[Ghostkiller]

Nope, just the older Matra Magic missiles and no SCALPs. They're just too old, wouldn't even be feasible to upgrade them which is why the EFT is very appealing as a replacement.

But can we add an BVR like Astra if we got ToTs?

 

[Gomig-21]

But can we add an BVR like Astra if we got ToTs?

I doubt it. Not unless they change a large portion of the avionics as well as the radar which was the original first radar installed in the first batch of Mirage 2Ks in the Thomson-CSF Radar Doppler Multifunction (RDM). Later in 1987 with the next batch (which was built after the ones for the EAF) got the Radar Doppler à Impulsion (RDI) built by Thales with 150km range which is much improved to the original RDM and also allowed the fighter to fire the Matra Super 530D missiles which were much better and longer ranged than the older Matra Super 530F which is what the EAF has IF I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure that's what is in them.

So to be able to fire any of the much newer and recent medium to long range missile, they would need to change the radar, the look-down-shoot down modes, and the entire related avionics package to support the radar and the missiles. Not worth it when it's that old. The engines are also the older SNECMA which had a better version in the Mirage 2000s after 1987. Much better to replace the aircraft IMO.

 

[Gomig-21]

I doubt it. Not unless they change a large portion of the avionics as well as the radar which was the original first radar installed in the first batch of Mirage 2Ks in the Thomson-CSF Radar Doppler Multifunction (RDM). Later in 1987 with the next batch (which was built after the ones for the EAF) got the Radar Doppler à Impulsion (RDI) built by Thales with 150km range which is much improved to the original RDM and also allowed the fighter to fire the Matra Super 530D missiles which were much better and longer ranged than the older Matra Super 530F which is what the EAF has IF I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure that's what is in them.

So to be able to fire any of the much newer and recent medium to long range missile, they would need to change the radar, the look-down-shoot down modes, and the entire related avionics package to support the radar and the missiles. Not worth it when it's that old. The engines are also the older SNECMA which had a better version in the Mirage 2000s after 1987. Much better to replace the aircraft IMO.

@Philip the Arab , this might very well explain why they chose to test the Al-Tariq missile on the EAF Mirage 2Ks, because of its ability to be deployed using the computer pad and completely separately from the aircraft's avionics systems.

Might even be the same reason they also tested them on the F-16 blck 52s, so that on either aircraft, they wouldn't have to make any major & expensive changes or modifications to the aircraft's systems. This ability to use a separate system than the one of the aircraft will revolutionize the way weapons are built and deployed. We'll start seeing a lot more interesting mixes than ones such as the Ukrainian MiG-29s & Su-27s firing US-built AGM-88 HARM missiles.

The only question would be how does the detection, tracking and initial lock-on work if they're completely independent of the aircraft's radar?

 

[Ghostkiller]

I doubt it. Not unless they change a large portion of the avionics as well as the radar which was the original first radar installed in the first batch of Mirage 2Ks in the Thomson-CSF Radar Doppler Multifunction (RDM). Later in 1987 with the next batch (which was built after the ones for the EAF) got the Radar Doppler à Impulsion (RDI) built by Thales with 150km range which is much improved to the original RDM and also allowed the fighter to fire the Matra Super 530D missiles which were much better and longer ranged than the older Matra Super 530F which is what the EAF has IF I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure that's what is in them.

So to be able to fire any of the much newer and recent medium to long range missile, they would need to change the radar, the look-down-shoot down modes, and the entire related avionics package to support the radar and the missiles. Not worth it when it's that old. The engines are also the older SNECMA which had a better version in the Mirage 2000s after 1987. Much better to replace the aircraft IMO.

So in a dogfight, our Mirage 2K can get f*cked sa7?

 

[Gomig-21]

So in a dogfight, our Mirage 2K can get f*cked sa7?

Not necessarily. Dogfight is a lot more dependent on pilot skills and short range missiles. BVR combat is the one that depends much more on better technology and detection assets.

I wish I had the full picture to show the other weapons for the F-16, especially the large one whatever it is on the cart where the guy has his foot on? Anyone know what that is?

Nice pic of EA Apache pilot in action.

 

[Gomig-21]

Egyptian special forces assault vehicle.

@Buschlaid , do you know how many Nimrs the EA is deploying?

Also there was mention that these Haskey 2G vehicles are also used for by the EA for IED and mine detection. Any truth to that that you know of?

 

[Gomig-21]

Are there even any photos of M270 with unit markings and Arabic numbers drawn on them? I always saw them only with license plates but never any markings. Something like this:

Great question and challenge trying to find those numbers.

The M-113s have their serial numbers painted on the sides of the chassis.

My guess for the M-270 is that they're somewhere on the back of the units since we've seen enough of the fronts and the sides to see there aren't any numbers there, hence they should be in the back and they must have a serial identification number. It's almost an international policy as you well know to keep track of all production models of any type. Similar to VIN #s on regular passenger cars and serial #s on pistols. If I find a shot that shows the back of the EGY M270s, I'll post it.

Notice how much worn out their paint is, showing underneath green colour.

I think it's quite obvious why that happens. Since it's pretty clear that the paint is being boiled off only around the rockets opening, it's obviously due to the massive fire and heat they're subjected to when one of these fires a continuous salvo of its 12 missiles. All twelve leaving the launchers and spitting their rocket fire right back at the opening is probably not a good thing for any kind of paint looool.

This is the exact reason why Sukhoi does not paint the leading edges of the horizontal stabilizers on the Su-35s and I think also maybe the Su-30s although not sure about those. The H-stabs on the Su-35s are lower than the wings and directly in the path of any rockets fired off the inner wing pylons. So they left them in natural titanium metal for the first part of the stabilizer and only painted the back half.

I don't think the URAL-4320 with armoured cabin and M-46 howitzer was accepted into service, never seen it outside of this one exercise. MoD likes to reuse footage of it into newer videos though.

So, are you saying they only made that one prototype and that's it? That's very strange TBH with you because if that was the case, they wouldn't be using just one in an exercise of that caliber at the Mohammad Naguib Base. I highly doubt they would trot out just the one prototype of what appears to be a VERY successful modification/creation of a blistering howitzer or cannon on a truck that according to local info is being built from the original URAL-4320 to brand new ones with that entire hydraulic bracing and stabilizing systems on them. You could very well be right. I just find it hard to believe they only put one or two together and used them as displays in an actual military exercise if they weren't at least planning on building a few more or already have.

We'll have to keep an eye out for those. Maybe someone can ask Mahmoud Gamal what he thinks since he also tweeted about this exact piece of equipment.

Also, we were talking about that IED jammer on those Egyptian CAIMANs & Panteras they're using mostly in Sinai. I wonder if it's also part of this same manufacturer that produces this really sophisticated IED & Radio jammer which is used by the Egyptian Secret Service Security units when they drive the president on a publicized route through the city or to military exhibits etc. We've seen this system mounted on these Chevy dually trucks when they escort Sisi around.

Samel-90 (Stand 1371) is showcasing SVJ-2600 mobile jammer, claimed to be the world’s biggest. This jammer is displayed on a pickup truck and operates on the 20-6,000 MHz frequency band. 42-44 frequency sub-bands are operated by remote control unit installed inside the vehicle.
The range of Samel-90 radio jammers are designed to protect against remote controlled improvised explosive devices (IED’s) aimed at individuals or a group of moving objects, people or other small targets.

SOURCE: They displayed it at the last EDEX and will be at the next one.

 

[Ghostkiller]

Egypt’s military production minister meets Brazilian ambassador

www.egyptdefenceexpo.com

Egypt’s Military Production Minister Mohamed Saeed al-Assar received on Monday Brazilian Ambassador to Egypt Ruy Pacheco de Azevedo at the Military Production Ministry’s headquarters to discuss means of enhancing joint cooperation in the defense industry and to prepare for a visit by the Brazilian foreign minister and a delegation of military manufacturing companies.
Assar displayed the potentials of the companies affiliated to the Ministry of Military Production in terms of technological, technical and human resources, stressing his desire to strengthen cooperation with Brazilian companies working in the similar field because of its expertise and advanced industrial technologies.
Assar hoped that Egypt and Brazil would establish joint companies in the field of military defense and manufacture high quality products at prices suitable for export.
During the meeting, Assar called on Brazilian companies to take advantage of the current suitable investment environment in Egypt represented in the new investment law, the infrastructure and national projects planned in Egypt, and commerce agreements between Egypt and international and regional organizations like COMESA.
He also called on Brazilian companies to participate in the major international defense exhibition EDEX 2018, which is scheduled to be held in Egypt from December 3 to 5.

I am sure some JV and ToTs started already. There is at least like 4 to 5 years difference. Hope it will bear its fruits.