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Finally someone who knows what they're doing got a hand on kit. Still missing some things but a step in the right direction none the less.

Double tube HMNVGs. PEQ/Laser light modules, rear mounted battery/counterweight, ear def/coms with high cut helmet, and low profile plate carriers.

Long way to go but on step closer.

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Taiwan's F-16V Viper has started tests.. the upgrade is around $30-40 million/aircraft..but then that is the price of a brand new Mig-35!!! 1 half price of a Rafale, so 100 F-16 upgrade is equal to about 50 new Rafales or 70 SU-35 !!!!!

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Taiwan's F-16V Viper has started tests.. the upgrade is around $30-40 million/aircraft..but then that is the price of a brand new Mig-35!!! 1 half price of a Rafale, so 100 F-16 upgrade is equal to about 50 new Rafales or 70 SU-35 !!!!!

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1 Rafale full of AAM can take down Half a Dozen+ of Migs... Therefore Numbers are not that important...
70 Migs are out of Biz against 14-18 Rafales...

Same for F-16... With the AESA upgrade and AAM... 1 F-16 can play with few Migs easily...

"See me First... Die first..."
 
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Taiwan's F-16V Viper has started tests.. the upgrade is around $30-40 million/aircraft..but then that is the price of a brand new Mig-35!!! 1 half price of a Rafale, so 100 F-16 upgrade is equal to about 50 new Rafales or 70 SU-35 !!!!!

Amazing. You couldn't pay me to take that deal, even for free! #1, the only airframes that would be worthy of this upgrade would be the 23 block 52s and the 42 or so block 40's that were delivered around 1999/2000 and on. That's about 65 airframes. Let's say somehow the US agrees to the full upgrade (which would NEVER be the case but let's play along for the sake of discussion) which would HAVE TO INCLUDE the big-ticket items such as:

1) AESA radar

2) Advanced glass cockpit and the entire avionics package upgrade which includes the:
a) multi-function color display and that new center pedestal
b) helmet-mounted cueing system (which BTW is worth bupkis without the AIM-9X but we'll get to that later:lol:)
c) high-volume & high-speed data bus.

3) With that new, programmable displays generator they're offering in this package is the new, Link-16 theatre data link which automatically comes with IFF identification friend or foe (which means all the sensors on the nose of the aircraft) as well as HF/UHF/VHF radio communications. So the IFF is the complete system where each aircraft actually has interrogators that can interrogate others to receive an IFF signal, not the fly-by-night system that they currently have. So that's a major part of that upgrade that would be A MUST since they would work with all the Rafales.

4) The new mission computer which enhances not only the weapons systems, but target designation but especially electronic warfare capabilities.

5) GPS upgrade would also be a must which comes with that fancy automated ground collision avoidance system that saves the pilot when he passes out that you and I were talking about a few months or a year ago, remember that, bro? So that's part of that and it is necessary to make it worthy.

6) WEAPONS! Yaaay! lol. I'm going to skip any A2G weapons for now to make this as short as possible but JDAM kits would be something I would super insist on for $40 million I can tell you that for sure! So the package supposedly comes with all the mentioned stuff PLUS the following that we don't have or can be adapted to fire certain missiles that are in the offered package which has a VERY INTERESTING item in it that I will highlight:
a) Magic II and ASRAAM short-range AAMs
b) Sky Flash and AIM-120 medium-range AAMs LOLOL.
c) The high off-bore-sight, infrared AAMs such as AIM-9X
d) AIM-132 ASRAAM
e) Here's the funny one but look how smart the Israelis are to find a way to profit out of this collaboration with the US.....the Python IV LOLOL.
f) I guess they're also offering an IRST package and I would actually insist on for $40 million. It comes standard on the Su-35 and MiG-35 which the latter costs more or less the same as the entire upgrade, like you said! lol

The US will never offer this as a free package to Egypt through the military aid, we know that for sure. So let's even go as far as assuming the EAF would pay the $2.5/3 billion it would cost to upgrade all those 65 F-16s, they would never agree to supply the AMRAAMs, the infrared short range off bore AIM-9X or the AIM-132 ASRAAM or any JDAM kits. So we have to come to terms with the fact that the F-16 in the EAF is not only incapable of its full potential, it never will be, hence it's a dying platform in the EAF that will need to be relegated strictly to point defense and attack role. And if 36 Rafales is going to be the limit that the French can and will supply (let's even say they agree to the 48), that will be the extent of it. They have too many orders to fill which include India's 36 (possibly 72) and Qatar's 36. This situation essentially dictates the EAF's next move. It's clear as day.

The thing I'm afraid, will be EGY mistake as half a decade ago... Buying What she can, from every side. That's the only thing That I don't want to see... And making it prone to instability and Dependency in the future.

What mistake are you referring to? Remind me please because I don't buy into that whole notion of "making the same mistakes as the past." That's not the case at all. The mistake of the past was to keep getting watered-down versions of the F-16 and never moving to another supplier. Even though we had no choice for a long time, it was the mistake. All the Mirages including the 20 2Ks and all the VIs were purchased before the F-16s started coming. The MiG-21s were in stock pre-1973. The F-4 Phantoms were a disaster. The F-7's were absolutely necessary as it's specifically designed as an Air Guard platform and was used in that capacity. All it did was patrol coastal grounds and was close to the MiG-21F/13 that Egypt had plenty of during the Soviet era, except they were Chinese. So where was this mistake of the past? There was none. It was a situation that Egypt was forced into which is exactly what is happening ATM except the platforms they've decided to get are better options than back in the day, such as the Rafale and the MiG-35.

The Hope That I still have is from Local Rivals, as Turkey, Maybe if TR take more place in the Region and that EGY feel even more and more threatened, Then maybe a new Ideology in Def Industry may wake up.
At least That's how it worked centuries ago... And as things are nowadays, let's say the "Mentality" didn't really change...

And there in lies the elephant in the room, Turkey. That's the perfect example because all the regulars keep thinking war with Israel is a matter of time but guess what? Ain't gonna happen, ever. Next war will be with a regional rival such as Turkey. And before any of the Turkish members read this and decide to post entire pages of the Turkish inventory here, don't bother. We're not advocating a war but we are looking at it as a potential, even if a rare one. So in that case, how does the EAF respond to that inventory with neutered F-16s and 36 Rafales and 50 MiG-35? It's way below what is needed to be able to fight a worthy fight. That's were the Su-35 in very decent numbers comes in really handy since not only is it a potent fighter with great weapons, it's a platform the Turks aren't familiar with. This is also the other side of the diversification that we see as a positive and not a mistake.

India is a perfect example of this and it works very well for them. Don't buy that propaganda that they have way too many different systems and that it's a disaster. I think it's absolutely necessary and should be the same way the EAF should go.
 
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And there in lies the elephant in the room, Turkey. That's the perfect example because all the regulars keep thinking war with Israel is a matter of time but guess what? Ain't gonna happen, ever. Next war will be with a regional rival such as Turkey. And before any of the Turkish members read this and decide to post entire pages of the Turkish inventory here, don't bother. We're not advocating a war but we are looking at it as a potential, even if a rare one. So in that case, how does the EAF respond to that inventory with neutered F-16s and 36 Rafales and 50 MiG-35? It's way below what is needed to be able to fight a worthy fight. That's were the Su-35 in very decent numbers comes in really handy since not only is it a potent fighter with great weapons, it's a platform the Turks aren't familiar with


We are also not advocating a war , but we are looking at it as a potential too led by SISI .. ( The Eastern Mediterranean's New Great Game Over Natural Gas )


Egypt buys sophisticated weapons , for Israel ? of course NO

-- 36 Rafale Fighter Jets
-- 50 MIG-29M2 Fighter Jets
-- 50 KA-52 Attack Helicopters
-- S300VM Air Defense System
-- 2 MISTRAL class LHD
-- 4 GOWIND class Corvettes
-- FREMM Frigate
-- 4 Type209 class Submarines




on the other hand Turkey looks set to have one of the most capable Military in the World until 2023

Turkish Airforce 163 CCIP modernized F-16C/D and 29 F-16C/D block50+ armed with AIM-120C7 and AIM-9x sidewinder air to air missiles + 16 Frigates of Turkish Navy easly can match with Egyptian F-16s and MIG-29s
in the Mediterranean Sea

for 36 Egyptian Rafales , Turkey will have S400 Air Defense System by 2019 also domestic production HISAR low-medium-high altitude Air Defense Systems by 2020-2021 and 2025 and KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System is in service

also Turkey is a global partner of F35 program and Turkey plans to buy 100 F-35A stealth Fighter Jets
( 30 F-35A until 2023 )

87 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters for the Turkish Armed Forces until 2022
150+ Bayraktar TB2 , ANKA and AKINCI UCAVs until 2023

and 4 of Boeing E-7T AEWC , 4 of stand off jammer Aircrafts , state of the art Jamming Pods and 600+ km EIRS early warning AESA Radar System ( domestic capabilities and new technologies are rapidly changing the face of Turkish Air Force )



280 km KHAN Tactical Ballistic Missile and 300 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile are in service
1000+ km BORA Ballistic Missile , 800 km SOM-ER air launched Cruise Missile are on the way
also Turkey develops 800 km GEZGIN-D naval cruise Missile ....
also Turkish Airforce has 150km AGM/88 HARM and 280km AGM/84 SLAM-ER Missiles
and to arm all Aegean and Mediterranean coasts with 200+ km land based ATMACA anti ship Missiles to burn enemy Navies
( great missile attack deterrence is the best defense against Greece , Egypt and Israel )



and new weapons to Turkish Navy

-- 4 ADA class stealth Corvettes
-- 4 MILGEM stealth Frigates between 2021 and 2024 .. ( 64 x SAM and 16 x anti ship missiles )
-- 6 Type 214TN class Submarines between 2021 and 2025
-- 1 TCG ANADOLU LHD by 2021

and 8 OHP class and 4 MEKO-200 Frigates , 8 Type 209 class Submarines will remain in service


and Turkish economy is bigger than Greek+Egyptian+Israeli economies combined



one on one Egypt never can match with Turkey and if Egyptians are not stupid Egypt should be friend to Turkey , not enemy
 
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Here's the scenario: After suiting up with diving knives and silenced assault rifles, a team of three Navy SEALs on a submarine prepare to head to shore for a sneak attack. They put on their scuba gear and climb into a vessel that shaped like a torpedo and not much bigger than a shower. Powered by a single rear propeller, it deploys from the host submarine. After hours of slow, calculated movement through water too shallow for any submarine, radar indicates the SEALs have reached shore. Still underwater, they slide back the top canopy of their vessel and swim the last stretch to the beach under cover of night.

https://www.wired.com/2014/08/navy-seal-submarine/https://www.wired.com/2014/08/navy-seal-submarine/

Thanks. Does the Egyptian Navy have many submarines that can support these?
 
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on the other hand Turkey looks set to have one of the most capable Military in the World until 2023

Turkish Airforce 163 CCIP modernized F-16C/D and 29 F-16C/D block50+ armed with AIM-120C7 and AIM-9x sidewinder air to air missiles + 16 Frigates of Turkish Navy easly can match with Egyptian F-16s and MIG-29s
in the Mediterranean Sea

for 36 Egyptian Rafales , Turkey will have S400 Air Defense System by 2019 also domestic production HISAR low-medium-high altitude Air Defense Systems by 2020-2021 and 2025 and KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System is in service

also Turkey is a global partner of F35 program and Turkey plans to buy 100 F-35A stealth Fighter Jets
( 30 F-35A until 2023 )

87 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters for the Turkish Armed Forces until 2022
150+ Bayraktar TB2 , ANKA and AKINCI UCAVs until 2023

and 4 of Boeing E-7T AEWC , 4 of stand off jammer Aircrafts , state of the art Jamming Pods and 600+ km EIRS early warning AESA Radar System ( domestic capabilities and new technologies are rapidly changing the face of Turkish Air Force )



280 km KHAN Tactical Ballistic Missile and 300 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile are in service
1000+ km BORA Ballistic Missile , 800 km SOM-ER air launched Cruise Missile are on the way
also Turkey develops 800 km GEZGIN-D naval cruise Missile ....
also Turkish Airforce has 150km AGM/88 HARM and 280km AGM/84 SLAM-ER Missiles
and to arm all Aegean and Mediterranean coasts with 200+ km land based ATMACA anti ship Missiles to burn enemy Navies
( great missile attack deterrence is the best defense against Greece , Egypt and Israel )



and new weapons to Turkish Navy

-- 4 ADA class stealth Corvettes
-- 4 MILGEM stealth Frigates between 2021 and 2024 .. ( 64 x SAM and 16 x anti ship missiles )
-- 6 Type 214TN class Submarines between 2021 and 2025
-- 1 TCG ANADOLU LHD by 2021

and 8 OHP class and 4 MEKO-200 Frigates , 8 Type 209 class Submarines will remain in service


and Turkish economy is bigger than Greek+Egyptian+Israeli economies combined



one on one Egypt never can match with Turkey and if Egyptians are not stupid Egypt should be friend to Turkey , not enemy

Egypt's main enemy is Israel, Turkey's friends

At the regional level Turkey Iran Ethiopia is a potential enemies

Military Force Standards Turks try to confuse future dreams with their weakness and stay away from reality

Turkey does not have an F-35 and it does not have an S-400. Therefore, they can not be placed in comparisons of weapons that will not exist in the future.
Egypt have
300 R-77 missiles For 46 MIG-29M
They ignore the 425 MICA on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
The same we have R-73 / 74M missiles, NO. 300 missiles on MiG planes, from which about 30 aircraft have been delivered so far
The same thing Egypt has HARM & HARPOON missiles on F-16
It owns the Exocet missiles on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
Scalp and Armat

And for MiG-29
Egypt owns and has KH-31 & KH-35 & KH-38 missiles

The Turkish F-35 has been blocked and will not be received by Turkey until after the fall of the Turkish regime
50 small attack Helicopter T-129 Failed to the first operations in Syria

can not be compared with 43 AH-64 & 50 Ka-52, which can not be compared with Turkish Toy

Dream depend on ADA class stealth Corvettes I Ships
Things are futuristic and not reality
TYPE-214TN submarines have not entered service and are not manufactured for any dreams you speak contract from 2008

Germany's for SOM missiles stopped the supply of engines
Egypt has a ballistic missile program that is much larger than the others. It manufactures DF-15A / B / C and currently has 500 Scud under replacement with Iskandar or M20 Chinese rockets with local production licenses

Egypt has contracted to manufacture 216 WS-2D platforms with 40 ready-made purchases
I mean, there is a big difference between Egyptian ballistic missile program and Turkish missile industry
Egypt is defending its sovereignty in the Mediterranean and is capable of destroying half of the Turkish navy fleet in 48 hours
212 F-16, 36 Mirage 2000, 14 Raval, 35 M-29. Let's talk about what is being delivered from the rest of the contracts already supplied, not compared to the Turkish fleet, which is decreasing after the exit of F-4 and also the lack of pilots for Turkey
Turkey has 4 early warning aircraft Egypt has 9 early warning aircraft E-2C Plus
A complex radar network and a heavy air defense system
Turkey does not have in reality

The SOM-ER and GEZGIN-D missiles are still the dreams

Turkey's economy is already collapsing, Turkey's economic future is black Lira every day collapses and Turkey's debt over the course of several months should be paid 179 billion dollars Investment evades Turkey, Turkey and what dreams you speak

Turkey to tell the military fact does not have the ability to face Egypt on the the Mediterranean Sea Turkey has no control over its territorial waters and that approached the Egyptian economic waters will be driven by the Egyptian navy and air without mercy

Every 60 years Turkey has to go out of the Middle East. It is the one who foments hostility with Egypt and we are well prepared for Turkey while Turkey is militarily and economically collapsing and the power of Turkey is the truth in its propaganda only, while its army is broken after being humiliated and psychologically destroyed. Turkey must fear Egypt and not try to antagonize Egypt. Do not crush Egypt and let you dreams
 
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Thanks. Does the Egyptian Navy have many submarines that can support these?
Apparently..yes
They operate from submarines only..

Amazing. You couldn't pay me to take that deal, even for free! #1, the only airframes that would be worthy of this upgrade would be the 23 block 52s and the 42 or so block 40's that were delivered around 1999/2000 and on. That's about 65 airframes. Let's say somehow the US agrees to the full upgrade (which would NEVER be the case but let's play along for the sake of discussion) which would HAVE TO INCLUDE the big-ticket items such as:

1) AESA radar

2) Advanced glass cockpit and the entire avionics package upgrade which includes the:
a) multi-function color display and that new center pedestal
b) helmet-mounted cueing system (which BTW is worth bupkis without the AIM-9X but we'll get to that later:lol:)
c) high-volume & high-speed data bus.

3) With that new, programmable displays generator they're offering in this package is the new, Link-16 theatre data link which automatically comes with IFF identification friend or foe (which means all the sensors on the nose of the aircraft) as well as HF/UHF/VHF radio communications. So the IFF is the complete system where each aircraft actually has interrogators that can interrogate others to receive an IFF signal, not the fly-by-night system that they currently have. So that's a major part of that upgrade that would be A MUST since they would work with all the Rafales.

4) The new mission computer which enhances not only the weapons systems, but target designation but especially electronic warfare capabilities.

5) GPS upgrade would also be a must which comes with that fancy automated ground collision avoidance system that saves the pilot when he passes out that you and I were talking about a few months or a year ago, remember that, bro? So that's part of that and it is necessary to make it worthy.

6) WEAPONS! Yaaay! lol. I'm going to skip any A2G weapons for now to make this as short as possible but JDAM kits would be something I would super insist on for $40 million I can tell you that for sure! So the package supposedly comes with all the mentioned stuff PLUS the following that we don't have or can be adapted to fire certain missiles that are in the offered package which has a VERY INTERESTING item in it that I will highlight:
a) Magic II and ASRAAM short-range AAMs
b) Sky Flash and AIM-120 medium-range AAMs LOLOL.
c) The high off-bore-sight, infrared AAMs such as AIM-9X
d) AIM-132 ASRAAM
e) Here's the funny one but look how smart the Israelis are to find a way to profit out of this collaboration with the US.....the Python IV LOLOL.
f) I guess they're also offering an IRST package and I would actually insist on for $40 million. It comes standard on the Su-35 and MiG-35 which the latter costs more or less the same as the entire upgrade, like you said! lol

The US will never offer this as a free package to Egypt through the military aid, we know that for sure. So let's even go as far as assuming the EAF would pay the $2.5/3 billion it would cost to upgrade all those 65 F-16s, they would never agree to supply the AMRAAMs, the infrared short range off bore AIM-9X or the AIM-132 ASRAAM or any JDAM kits. So we have to come to terms with the fact that the F-16 in the EAF is not only incapable of its full potential, it never will be, hence it's a dying platform in the EAF that will need to be relegated strictly to point defense and attack role. And if 36 Rafales is going to be the limit that the French can and will supply (let's even say they agree to the 48), that will be the extent of it. They have too many orders to fill which include India's 36 (possibly 72) and Qatar's 36. This situation essentially dictates the EAF's next move. It's clear as day.



What mistake are you referring to? Remind me please because I don't buy into that whole notion of "making the same mistakes as the past." That's not the case at all. The mistake of the past was to keep getting watered-down versions of the F-16 and never moving to another supplier. Even though we had no choice for a long time, it was the mistake. All the Mirages including the 20 2Ks and all the VIs were purchased before the F-16s started coming. The MiG-21s were in stock pre-1973. The F-4 Phantoms were a disaster. The F-7's were absolutely necessary as it's specifically designed as an Air Guard platform and was used in that capacity. All it did was patrol coastal grounds and was close to the MiG-21F/13 that Egypt had plenty of during the Soviet era, except they were Chinese. So where was this mistake of the past? There was none. It was a situation that Egypt was forced into which is exactly what is happening ATM except the platforms they've decided to get are better options than back in the day, such as the Rafale and the MiG-35.



And there in lies the elephant in the room, Turkey. That's the perfect example because all the regulars keep thinking war with Israel is a matter of time but guess what? Ain't gonna happen, ever. Next war will be with a regional rival such as Turkey. And before any of the Turkish members read this and decide to post entire pages of the Turkish inventory here, don't bother. We're not advocating a war but we are looking at it as a potential, even if a rare one. So in that case, how does the EAF respond to that inventory with neutered F-16s and 36 Rafales and 50 MiG-35? It's way below what is needed to be able to fight a worthy fight. That's were the Su-35 in very decent numbers comes in really handy since not only is it a potent fighter with great weapons, it's a platform the Turks aren't familiar with. This is also the other side of the diversification that we see as a positive and not a mistake.

India is a perfect example of this and it works very well for them. Don't buy that propaganda that they have way too many different systems and that it's a disaster. I think it's absolutely necessary and should be the same way the EAF should go.
In brief: an upgrade of 100 F-16s is equal to buying 100 Mig-35, only the latter has no strings attached and comes with the full weapons suites.. or let's say 65 SU-35 fully loaded..thanks god, the alternatives are very potent..
PS: Bro, it is not me who talked about past mistakes..
 
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Egypt's main enemy is Israel, Turkey's friends

At the regional level Turkey Iran Ethiopia is a potential enemies

Military Force Standards Turks try to confuse future dreams with their weakness and stay away from reality

Turkey does not have an F-35 and it does not have an S-400. Therefore, they can not be placed in comparisons of weapons that will not exist in the future.
Egypt have
300 R-77 missiles For 46 MIG-29M
They ignore the 425 MICA on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
The same we have R-73 / 74M missiles, NO. 300 missiles on MiG planes, from which about 30 aircraft have been delivered so far
The same thing Egypt has HARM & HARPOON missiles on F-16
It owns the Exocet missiles on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
Scalp and Armat

And for MiG-29
Egypt owns and has KH-31 & KH-35 & KH-38 missiles

The Turkish F-35 has been blocked and will not be received by Turkey until after the fall of the Turkish regime
50 small attack Helicopter T-129 Failed to the first operations in Syria

can not be compared with 43 AH-64 & 50 Ka-52, which can not be compared with Turkish Toy

Dream depend on ADA class stealth Corvettes I Ships
Things are futuristic and not reality
TYPE-214TN submarines have not entered service and are not manufactured for any dreams you speak contract from 2008

Germany's for SOM missiles stopped the supply of engines
Egypt has a ballistic missile program that is much larger than the others. It manufactures DF-15A / B / C and currently has 500 Scud under replacement with Iskandar or M20 Chinese rockets with local production licenses

Egypt has contracted to manufacture 216 WS-2D platforms with 40 ready-made purchases
I mean, there is a big difference between Egyptian ballistic missile program and Turkish missile industry
Egypt is defending its sovereignty in the Mediterranean and is capable of destroying half of the Turkish navy fleet in 48 hours
212 F-16, 36 Mirage 2000, 14 Raval, 35 M-29. Let's talk about what is being delivered from the rest of the contracts already supplied, not compared to the Turkish fleet, which is decreasing after the exit of F-4 and also the lack of pilots for Turkey
Turkey has 4 early warning aircraft Egypt has 9 early warning aircraft E-2C Plus
A complex radar network and a heavy air defense system
Turkey does not have in reality

The SOM-ER and GEZGIN-D missiles are still the dreams

Turkey's economy is already collapsing, Turkey's economic future is black Lira every day collapses and Turkey's debt over the course of several months should be paid 179 billion dollars Investment evades Turkey, Turkey and what dreams you speak

Turkey to tell the military fact does not have the ability to face Egypt on the the Mediterranean Sea Turkey has no control over its territorial waters and that approached the Egyptian economic waters will be driven by the Egyptian navy and air without mercy

Every 60 years Turkey has to go out of the Middle East. It is the one who foments hostility with Egypt and we are well prepared for Turkey while Turkey is militarily and economically collapsing and the power of Turkey is the truth in its propaganda only, while its army is broken after being humiliated and psychologically destroyed. Turkey must fear Egypt and not try to antagonize Egypt. Do not crush Egypt and let you dreams




Verry funny , daydreamer boy is talking about dreams , only read and learn about your dreams


Egypt can not develop even Anti Tank Missile , so weak and dependent on the US,Russia and France
and a few American-Russian-French weapons can not save you in a war against Turkey and Israel who develops its own weapons ( in one night all Egyptian fleet will be destroyed , no time even to take off as like 1967 )


Turkey develops over 600 military projects to become real military power , The local share in the Turkey's defense industries has risen to 70% from 18% over the past 15 years

President ERDOGAN aims to turn Turkey into major defense industry power in 2023

4 Turkish defence companies made it to the 2018 global top 100 list based on defence product revenue
Turkey is the only Muslim majority country with companies represented on the list
its not dream , its reality
http://people.defensenews.com/top-100/


on the other hand Egypt and S.Arabia can not develop even Anti Tank Missile ( only to buy , to buy and to buy )


and Turkey's defense industry showed muscles in Afrin operation

-- KORAL land-based Radar Electronic Warfare System is observed firstly being used in this mission
-- The smart HGK Bombs and precision guidance kits
-- T122/TRG122/T300/TRG300 multi barrel rocket Launchers
-- T-155 Firtina (Storm) Howitzers
-- T-129 Attack Helicopters ( Laser guided CIRIT missiles )
-- Mortar radar system SERHAT
-- Bayraktar TB2 tactical UCAV ( smart ammunition system MAM-L is loaded onto these drones )


establishing an independent national defense requires a strong national defense industry



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Turkey does not have an F-35 and it does not have an S-400. Therefore, they can not be placed in comparisons of weapons that will not exist in the future


Turkey will have game changer S400 air defense system by 2019
that means S400 would turn Egyptian MIG-29s and Rafales to burned bird from 250 km away somewhere over the mediterranean sea






also Turkey develops its own HISAR low-medium-high altitude Air Defense Family ,,,its not dream , its reality

HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System will be in service by 2020
HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System will be in service by 2021











600+ km Aselsan EIRS, is a new generation S-Band radar developed for long range early warning, with its AESA and digital beamforming antenna architecture. EIRS has the ability to detect and track air breathing targets, ballistic missiles, anti-radiation missiles and stealth/low RCS targets from very long ranges






Egypt can not develop even AESA Radars ,


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Egypt have
300 R-77 missiles For 46 MIG-29M
They ignore the 425 MICA on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
The same we have R-73 / 74M missiles, NO. 300 missiles on MiG planes, from which about 30 aircraft have been delivered so far


Turkish Airforce has 163 CCIP modernized F-16C/D and 29 F-16C/D block50+

SPEWS II self-protection electronic warfare suite





Turkish F-16 pilots use JHMCS helmet displays targeting information on the helmet visor to allow pilots to lock-on and attack air-to-air (JHMCS+AIM-9X) ....... the systems gives flight crew members the ability to rapidly acquire and designate a target simply by looking at it





Turkish Airforce Air to Air Missiles
-- 300+ AIM-120 AMRAAM
-- 145 AIM-120C7
-- 127 AIM-9x sidewinder
-- 500 AIM-9M sidewinder

and 1700 AIM-9L/S/P sidewinder air to air missiles



also Turkey develops its own air to air missiles ( what about Egypt ? nothing )

-- 65 km BOZDOGAN ( solid-state RF seeker, with advanced counter-measure capability and datalink update )
-- 30 km GOKDOGAN ( a high resolution dual colour imaging infra-red seeker, with a comprehensive off-boresight capability, along with advanced counter-measures ) ......its not dream , its reality





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The same thing Egypt has HARM & HARPOON missiles on F-16
It owns the Exocet missiles on the Mirage 2000 and the Rafale
Scalp and Armat


Egypt can not develop its own Cruise and Anti ship Missiles

and Egypt has no SCALP Cruise Missile , the US blocks Frace to sell Scalp missile to Egypt , because of American parts in SCALP missile



Turkish Airforce has 95 AGM-88 HARM ( 150 km ) and 50 AGM/88 SLAM-ER ( 280 km ) Missiles

also Turkey has developed its own SOM air launched Cruise Missile ( in service since 2012 )
SOM Cruise Missile is one of the best Cruise Missile in the world

-- precision strike capability against both land or sea targets
-- network enabled capability ( only a few country in the world )
-- Stealthy and precise
-- Terrain hugging and Sea skimming
-- Imaging Infrared Seeker
-- INS / GPS
-- Terrain Referenced Navigation
-- Image Based Navigation
-- Automatic Target Recognition
-- mach 0,94 speed
-- 300 km range with French TRI40 engine ( but 800km range with indigenous engine )





also Turkey has developed 220+km ATMACA network enabled anti ship missile
to arm all Aegean and Mediterranean coasts with land based ATMACA anti ship Missiles to burn enemy Navies






SOM and ATMACA Missiles are so superior to American HARPOON and French EXOCET Missiles ,, its not dream , its reality



Germany's for SOM missiles stopped the supply of engines

SOM has French engine , not German ,,,, and dont worry Turkey has developed its own KTJ-3200 The Turbojet Engine for SOM and ATMACA Missiles .. its not dream , its reality




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50 small attack Helicopter T-129 Failed to the first operations in Syria

can not be compared with 43 AH-64 & 50 Ka-52, which can not be compared with Turkish Toy


Egypt has no technology to develop even weapons for Attack Helicopters
Afghans destroyed over 300 Russian Helicopters in Afghanistan

and total of 87 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters will be produced for Turkish Army , Navy and Gendarme
and TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters kicked terrorists everywhere ( light and fast , high agility and equipped with latest technology systems and weapons )

btw Pakistan buys 30 TAI T-129 Attack Helicopters for $1,5 billion from Turkey



also Turkey develops ATAK-2 heavy Attack Helicopter ( almost 100% Turkish technology )



-- Software , source codes
-- Mission computer
-- Electronic and avionic systems
-- HEWS Helicopter electronic warfare system
-- rotor , transmission and pal technologies
-- 12 km MILDAR fire control radar superior to 8km American LONGBOW radar
-- Air to Air Missile
-- 8 km CIRIT 70mm laser guided rocket
-- 8 km MIZRAK anti tank Missile

and of course TEI TS1400 Turboshaft gas turbine engine ( only a few countries in the World ) ,,, its not dream its reality





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Egypt has a ballistic missile program that is much larger than the others. It manufactures DF-15A / B / C and currently has 500 Scud under replacement with Iskandar or M20 Chinese rockets with local production licenses

DF-15A / B / C ? in your dreams ?

Egypt domestic production only old SCUD Missiles ,, and Iskandar or M20 can not reach to Turkey from Egypt


on the other hand 280 km KHAN Tactical Ballistic Missile is in service to hit Athens/Greece





and Turkey develops advanced Bora-2 long-range missile to hit Cairo

https://www.janes.com/article/79644/turkey-develops-advanced-bora-2-long-range-missile



also Nurettin Canikli said that new cruise missile developed, will reach a range of 800km
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-range-of-turkish-cruise-missile-revealed-800km.562300/





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Dream depend on ADA class stealth Corvettes I Ships
Things are futuristic and not reality
TYPE-214TN submarines have not entered service and are not manufactured for any dreams you speak contract from 2008


Turkey has its own naval industry , Egypt can not develop even Corvette

are you joke or what ? ADA class stealth Corvette is in service since 2012 ( 2 in service and more 2 will be in
even Pakistan buys 4 ADA Corvettes from Turkey




and MILGEM-I class stealth Frigate is under construction ( will be in service by 2021 )

and now 3 Type214TN class AIP Submarines are under construction in Turkey ( total of 6 between 2021 and 2025 )

what about Egypt ? nothing




Egypt is defending its sovereignty in the Mediterranean and is capable of destroying half of the Turkish navy fleet in 48 hours

only in your dreams ,, keep dreaming dream is free


Turkish Navy is in action in the Mediterranean Sea to defend its sovereignty
by 2018 Turkish Navy has 16 Frigates , 2 ADA class stealth Corvettes and 12 Submarines ( the strongest navy in the region )

even I am not talking about game changer new weapons between 2019 and 2021 to dominate eastern Mediterranean Sea

-- 250 km S400 Air Defense System
-- 220+ km ATMACA anti ship Missile
-- more 2 ADA class stealth Corvettes
-- MILGEM-I class stealth Frigate
-- Type 214TN class AIP Submarine
-- TCG ANADOLU amphibious assault Ship
-- F35A stealth Fighter Jet armed with SOM-J cruise missile ( anti ship / land attack )
-- AKINCI UCAV ( SATCOM,AESA Radar,1,5 ton payload for SOM-J cruise missile



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Turkey has 4 early warning aircraft Egypt has 9 early warning aircraft E-2C Plus
A complex radar network and a heavy air defense system
Turkey does not have in reality

very funny Egypt has old technology , Egypt does not have in reality


1 -) superior Boeing E7-T to E-2C Hawkeye from 1986 ( they were converted to Hawkeye 2000 standard more than a decade ago and fitted with APS-145 radar )

4 Boeing E7-T are in service since 2014 with its high-technology the MESA radar is the latest generation airborne surveillance radar system range of 600+ km tracking 180 targets
also radar antenna array is doubled as an ELINT array with 850 km at 9000 m altitude





2 -) Turkish technology stand off Jammer Project to paralyze air defense systems from 400 km away ( only Israel and Turkey in the region )






3 -) Turkish Aselsan MEHPOD Jamming Pod ( only Israel and Turkey in the region )






4 -) Turkish Aselsan KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System to jam and deceive hostile radars ( only Turkey in the region )






5 -) Turkey has developed 450 km CAFRAD naval Radar and 600+ km EIRS early warning AESA Radar






6 -) Turkey will have game changer S400 air defense system by 2019
that means S400 would turn Egyptian MIG-29s and Rafales to burned bird from 250 km away somewhere over the mediterranean sea





and I am saying again still Turkish economy is bigger than Egyptian + Greek + $250 billion combined

Egypt + Greece to tell the military fact dont not have the ability to face Turkey on the the Mediterranean and Aegean Sea

Turkey control over its territorial waters and that approached the Turkish/N.Cyprus economic waters will be driven by the Turkish navy and air without mercy

Turkish Navy is everywhere , but we dont see Egyptian and Greek Navies and and let you dreams
 
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Thanks @The Eagle

Now that we're back on topic, a nice picture of Egyptian-made Sinai-23 mobile air defence system. Consisting of twin 23mm autocannons, and Egyptian Saqr Eye heat seeking missiles. All mounted on a repurposed M113 Chassis.

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Egyptian Stealth Corvette "Port Said" undergoing final launch preps after completion of construction at Alexandria shipyard. Right in front of it is the building site for the future corvette "Marsa Matrouh".

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Apparently..yes
They operate from submarines only..

No. The Egyptian Romeo is far too small to accommodate a dry dock shelter for a Seal Delivery Vehicle. Only a couple of countries have that capability.

But the Egyptian Romeo is modified with a Special Forces pay load bay (likely carrying a Diver Propulsion Vehicle) and dock for a inflatable boat.

Seal Delivery Vehicles can be used in tandem with Launch and Recovery Rafts or towed by larger vessels. Most likely how they're being used by Egypt.

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