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Did I touch a nerve? Is the truth propaganda for you? I did nothing but post facts.

*Saying that 73 war ended with "Tactical victory" for Israel is not a fact.
It is simply a bull$:t!.
*Saying that Egypt lost the war because it lost more soldiers than Israel with the fact that Egypt was in attack position to get through a flaming canal + defense system spanning 150 km with chain of fortifications along the canal is something just childish to discuss in a military forum!
*Saying that Russians were the ones who operating the SAMs during the war ..
Just show that you haven't done your homework. read about Sadat's decisions re. the Russians existence during the conflict.

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You people never admit defeat.
Remind me of the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon back in 2000.
Even after 17 years, I do remember what the Israeli PM said that day. and I do remember what "Hassan Nasrallah" replied in return.
Hezbollah fought hard to make Israel go back to "The occupied Palestine".
IPM said that their withdrawal was "out of respect to UN resolutions"! Ain't that Funny?!
Nasrallah later replied ".. it was nothing but iron and fire that made you leave Lebanon" :guns:

Zionists keep saying the same regarding their defeat in yom kippur war.
And their Propaganda is all the web and international media outlets.
But we all know that only war against Israel is the only way to take back what Israel backed by the Western imperialism countries has been stealing from us.

BTW, hours ago U.S. declared its decision to pull out of UNESCO in favor of its beloved Israel! and it's not its first cry-out at the UN in behalf of Israel.
 
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*Saying that 73 war ended with "Tactical victory" for Israel is not a fact.
It is simply a bull$:t!.
*Saying that Egypt lost the war because it lost more soldiers than Israel with the fact that Egypt was in attack position to get through a flaming canal + defense system spanning 150 km with chain of fortifications along the canal is something just childish to discuss in a military forum!
*Saying that Russians were the ones who operating the SAMs during the war ..
Just show that you haven't done your homework. read about Sadat's decisions re. the Russians existence during the conflict.

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You people never admit defeat.
Remind me of the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon back in 2000.
Even after 17 years, I do remember what the Israeli PM said that day. and I do remember what "Hassan Nasrallah" replied in return.
Hezbollah fought hard to make Israel go back to "The occupied Palestine".
IPM said that their withdrawal was "out of respect to UN resolutions"! Ain't that Funny?!
Nasrallah later replied ".. it was nothing but iron and fire that made you leave Lebanon" :guns:

Zionists keep saying the same regarding their defeat in yom kippur war.
And their Propaganda is all the web and international media outlets.
But we all know that only war against Israel is the only way to take back what Israel backed by the Western imperialism countries has been stealing from us.

BTW, hours ago U.S. declared its decision to pull out of UNESCO in favor of its beloved Israel! and it's not its first cry-out at the UN in behalf of Israel.[/QUOTE]
I am saying that Egypt lost the war because it didn't achieve any of its objectives.

Those are only guards in the picture, I don't see why missile operators would have guns.

I like how you claim you won 1973 because of what Hezbollah allegedly did to Israel in 2000
(By the way, we got out of it because of a helicopter collision inside Israel)

Oh you claim my government is lying? You claimed you were already in Tel Aviv in 1967, you are now claiming you won a war in which you have achieved nothing in, and hell, you Muslims are fighting on who really won the war

Bullshit! Egyptian SF, my ***! It was the Berber mustachioed that stopped Ariel dead on his track and kept Egypt West of the canal from being taken by the Israeli troops...It has been fifty years...post facts! History has already been written you can't change it like Wikipedia...


And guess what? You didn't take the Sinai until 1982, a good 9 years after the end of the war. And you also cried to the USSR to save your 3rd army.
 
I never said war is fair, you were the ones always saying "muh 1967 was a surprise attack" yet couldn't even go 2 on 1 against Israel in a surprise attack in its holiest day, and then years after claim victory only because you have managed to penetrate a 250 men defense line with 90,000 men. Even though you had bigger forces than us we won in the end, you never got your Sinai in the war, you got 15,000 dead (Syria not included) compared to our 2,500-2,800.
Here is a proof of your lies:

The Israelis had constructed a series of fortifications along the canal called the Bar Lev Line, which was considered impregnable. The main obstacle of these defences was a massive artificial sand wall erected by Israeli engineers, 18–25 meters (59–82 ft) high with a 45–60 degree incline, along the entire Suez Canal. The rampart were reinforced by concrete that also prevented any attempt by amphibious vehicles to climb the sand wall. To blast through the sand barrier the Israelis estimated would take at least twenty-four, probably forty-eight hours. Behind this rampart were a series of 22 fortifications comprising 35 strongpoints. On average, the fortifications were 10 kilometers (6.2 mi) apart. A strongpoint was several stories deep into the sand and provided protection from a 1000-pound (~½ ton) bomb. Strongpoints incorporated trenches, barbed wire, minefields 200 meters deep, numerous bunkers and troop shelters, and firing positions for tanks. Each strongpoint had an underground reservoir filled with crude oil. The oil could be pumped into the Suez Canal via a pipe system, and ignited to create temperatures reaching 700 °C (1,292 °F). A second defensive line, 300–500 meters (980–1,640 ft) behind the main line, was concentrated at likely crossing areas, and designed to be occupied by armored forces, incorporating tank firing positions. A third defensive line, 3–5 kilometers (1.9–3.1 mi) behind the sand rampart, had its defences concentrated on the main roads and principal routes of advance for an attacker. Behind the main line on the canal were concentration areas for armor and infantry, supply depots, numerous artillery positions and so forth.

The Israeli command developed a basic defensive plan codenamed Dovecote (Shovach Yonim), the details of which were known to the Egyptians. The plan divided the Bar Lev Line into three sectors: the northern sector defended Arish on the coast to El-Qantarah el-Sharqiyya, the central sector defended Ismailia to Abu-Ageila, and the southern sector defended the area from the Great Bitter Lake to the end of the Suez Canal, and prevented a thrust to the Mitla and Gedy Passes. The 252nd Armored Division, led by Major General Albert Mandler, was charged with the defense of the Bar Lev Line, and incorporated three armored brigades. Positioned 5–9 kilometers (3.1–5.6 mi) behind the series of fortifications was a brigade of 110–120 tanks, led by Colonel Reshef, split into three battalions of 36–40 tanks each, with one battalion to a sector. In case of an Egyptian attack, the brigade was to move forward to occupy tank platforms and firing positions along the Bar Lev Line. A further 20–35 kilometers (12–22 mi) behind the canal were two additional armored brigades led by Colonels Gabi Amir and Dan Shomron, each with around 120 tanks. One brigade was to reinforce the forward armored brigade, while the other brigade counterattacked against the main Egyptian assault.

The Sinai garrison numbered 18,000 men. The overall commander was Shmuel Gonen, who served as head of the Israeli Southern Command. Of the garrison stationed in the Sinai, one infantry brigade occupied the strongpoints on the canal on October 6, while a further 8,000 could be deployed to the line within 30 minutes to two hours along with the armor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Badr_(1973)

Maybe we were just nice to you, and didn't want to tell the world that Usrael has lost at least those 18 000 men with their 700 tanks and other armoured vehicles who were trying to defend the Barlev line..:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I can bring you quote from Golda Maeir, Moshe Dayan, Sharon...etc that will make you cry like them.. even Nixon testified to the Usrael defeat.. by the 15th of October, it is Usrael who was begging for a cease fire..

On the strategic level Egypt got back Sinai and Syria got back Kunaitera, the biggest city in the Golan ,, along with the most sophisticated American telecommunication and listening devices of those days and handed them over to Russia as a war prize gift, the Mont Hermon in the Golan was taken in one hour and all elite Usaeli forces defending it were exterminated there..
Do you really believe that neither the 2nd or 3rd Egyptian armies saw the gap just between the two of them? you never knew that was a trap, the same in Syria when Usrael "created" a pocket and was hit very hard from every side.. in fact it is the US airforce who has saved it, the same as the US threat of intervening in Sinai that saved IDF from another defeat of that war.. this time nothing less than the anhilation of 3 Usraeli divisions lost in the desert west of the Canal.. you can say what you want, lie and cry.. these are the facts recognized all over the world with your own leaders testimonies.. those Egyptian tactics and strategies are still being studies in the most imminent military academies in the Western world and beyond....
So if you want to cry again about your failure and defeat as an apartheid entity, there is a wall in Jerusalam al Qods where you can find a corner to cry on your faith..:pissed:?
 
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Here is a proof of your lies:

The Israelis had constructed a series of fortifications along the canal called the Bar Lev Line, which was considered impregnable. The main obstacle of these defences was a massive artificial sand wall erected by Israeli engineers, 18–25 meters (59–82 ft) high with a 45–60 degree incline, along the entire Suez Canal. The rampart were reinforced by concrete that also prevented any attempt by amphibious vehicles to climb the sand wall. To blast through the sand barrier the Israelis estimated would take at least twenty-four, probably forty-eight hours. Behind this rampart were a series of 22 fortifications comprising 35 strongpoints. On average, the fortifications were 10 kilometers (6.2 mi) apart. A strongpoint was several stories deep into the sand and provided protection from a 1000-pound (~½ ton) bomb. Strongpoints incorporated trenches, barbed wire, minefields 200 meters deep, numerous bunkers and troop shelters, and firing positions for tanks. Each strongpoint had an underground reservoir filled with crude oil. The oil could be pumped into the Suez Canal via a pipe system, and ignited to create temperatures reaching 700 °C (1,292 °F). A second defensive line, 300–500 meters (980–1,640 ft) behind the main line, was concentrated at likely crossing areas, and designed to be occupied by armored forces, incorporating tank firing positions. A third defensive line, 3–5 kilometers (1.9–3.1 mi) behind the sand rampart, had its defences concentrated on the main roads and principal routes of advance for an attacker. Behind the main line on the canal were concentration areas for armor and infantry, supply depots, numerous artillery positions and so forth.

The Israeli command developed a basic defensive plan codenamed Dovecote (Shovach Yonim), the details of which were known to the Egyptians. The plan divided the Bar Lev Line into three sectors: the northern sector defended Arish on the coast to El-Qantarah el-Sharqiyya, the central sector defended Ismailia to Abu-Ageila, and the southern sector defended the area from the Great Bitter Lake to the end of the Suez Canal, and prevented a thrust to the Mitla and Gedy Passes. The 252nd Armored Division, led by Major General Albert Mandler, was charged with the defense of the Bar Lev Line, and incorporated three armored brigades. Positioned 5–9 kilometers (3.1–5.6 mi) behind the series of fortifications was a brigade of 110–120 tanks, led by Colonel Reshef, split into three battalions of 36–40 tanks each, with one battalion to a sector. In case of an Egyptian attack, the brigade was to move forward to occupy tank platforms and firing positions along the Bar Lev Line. A further 20–35 kilometers (12–22 mi) behind the canal were two additional armored brigades led by Colonels Gabi Amir and Dan Shomron, each with around 120 tanks. One brigade was to reinforce the forward armored brigade, while the other brigade counterattacked against the main Egyptian assault.

The Sinai garrison numbered 18,000 men. The overall commander was Shmuel Gonen, who served as head of the Israeli Southern Command. Of the garrison stationed in the Sinai, one infantry brigade occupied the strongpoints on the canal on October 6, while a further 8,000 could be deployed to the line within 30 minutes to two hours along with the armor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Badr_(1973)

Maybe we were just nice to you, and didn't want to tell the world that Usrael has lost at least those 18 000 men with their 700 tanks and other armoured vehicles who were trying to defend the Barlev line..:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I can bring you quote from Golda Maeir, Moshe Dayan, Sharon...etc that will make you cry like them.. even Nixon testified to the Usrael defeat.. by the 15th of October, it is Usrael who was begging for a cease fire..

On the strategic level Egypt got back Sinai and Syria got back Kunaitera, the biggest city in the Golan ,, along with the most sophisticated American telecommunication and listening devices of those days and handed them over to Russia as a war prize gift, the Mont Hermon in the Golan was taken in one hour and all elite Usaeli forces defending it were exterminated there..
Do you really believe that neither the 2nd or 3rd Egyptian armies saw the gap just between the two of them? you never knew that was a trap, the same in Syria when Usrael "created" a pocket and was hit very hard from every side.. in fact it is the US airforce who has saved it, the same as the US threat of intervening in Sinai that saved IDF from another defeat of that war.. this time nothing less than the anhilation of 3 Usraeli divisions lost in the desert west of the Canal.. you can say what you want, lie and cry.. these are the facts recognized all over the world with your own leaders testimonies.. those Egyptian tactics and strategies are still being studies in the most imminent military academies in the Western world and beyond....
So if you want to cry again about your failure and defeat as an apartheid entity, there is a wall in Jerusalam al Qods where you can find a corner to cry on your faith..:pissed:?
What have you proved exactly with that quotation? The defensive line had 250 men in the start of the war, the garrison wasn't a part of it.

Maybe we were just nice to you, and didn't want to tell the world that Usrael has lost at least those 18 000 men with their 700 tanks and other armoured vehicles who were trying to defend the Barlev line..
You claim Israel lost 18,000 men in the Bar Lev line? I stopped reading there
You gained no objective in that war, lost 10 times more soldiers than Israel, lost 5 times more aircraft than Israel, lost 2.4 times more tanks than Israel, lost almost every battle, yet you continue to celebrate what happened in the first day of the war.

You should be really lame and pathetic to wage a war against your enemy in not only his most holy day, but in the only day he fasts and rests, yet you still lost.

Israel won the Yom Kippur war, as the war ended with Damascus within Israeli Artillery range, the IDF some 100km away from Cairo, and a whole Egyptian Army (the 3rd) totally encircled and at the mercy of the IDF for food, water, and medicine.

The Egyptian Failed Attack:
The 2nd and 3rd Armies were ordered to attack eastward in six simultaneous thrusts over a broad front, leaving behind five infantry divisions to hold the bridgeheads. The attacking forces, consisting of 800–1,000 tankswould not have SAM cover, so the Egyptian Air Force (EAF) was tasked with the defense of these forces from Israeli air attacks. Armored and mechanized units began the attack on October 14 with artillery support. They were up against 700–750 Israeli tanks.

Preparatory to the tank attack, Egyptian helicopters set down 100 commandos near the Lateral Road to disrupt the Israeli rear. An Israeli reconnaissance unit quickly subdued them, killing 60 and taking numerous prisoners. Still bruised by the extensive losses their commandos had suffered on the opening day of the war, the Egyptians were unable or unwilling to implement further commando operations that had been planned in conjunction with the armored attack. The Egyptian armored thrust suffered heavy losses. Instead of concentrating forces of maneuvering, except for the wadi thrust, Egyptian units launched head-on-attacks against the waiting Israeli defenses.

The Egyptian attack was decisively repelled. At least 250 Egyptian tanks and some 200 armored vehicles were destroyed. Egyptian casualties exceeded 1,000. Fewer than 40 Israeli tanks were hit and all but six of them were repaired by Israeli maintenance crews and returned to service, while Israeli casualties numbered 665.

Kenneth Pollack credited a successful Israeli commando raid early on October 14 against an Egyptian signals-intercept site at Jebel Ataqah with seriously disrupting Egyptian command and control and contributing to its breakdown during the engagement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War#The_Egyptian_failed_attack


Egypt's trapped Third Army

Kissinger found out about the Third Army's encirclement shortly thereafter. Kissinger considered that the situation presented the United States with a tremendous opportunity and that Egypt was dependent on the United States to prevent Israel from destroying its trapped army. The position could be parlayed later into allowing the United States to mediate the dispute and wean Egypt from Soviet influence. As a result, the United States exerted tremendous pressure on the Israelis to refrain from destroying the trapped army, even threatening to support a UN resolution demanding that the Israelis withdraw to their October 22 positions if they did not allow non-military supplies to reach the army. In a phone call with Israeli ambassador Simcha Dinitz, Kissinger told the ambassador that the destruction of the Egyptian Third Army "is an option that does not exist."

Despite being surrounded, the Third Army managed to maintain its combat integrity east of the canal and keep up its defensive positions, to the surprise of many.According to Trevor N. Dupuy, the Israelis, Soviets and Americans overestimated the vulnerability of the Third Army at the time. It was not on the verge of collapse, and he wrote that while a renewed Israeli offensive would probably overcome it, this was not a certainty, and according to David Elazar chief of Israeli headquarter staff on December 3, 1973: "As for the third army, in spite of our encircling them they resisted and advanced to occupy in fact a wider area of land at the east. Thus, we can not say that we defeated or conquered them."

David T. Buckwalter agrees that despite the isolation of the Third Army, it was unclear if the Israelis could have protected their forces on the west bank of the canal from a determined Egyptian assault and still maintain sufficient strength along the rest of the front. This assessment was challenged by Patrick Seale, who stated that the Third Army was "on the brink of collapse". Seale's position was supported by P.R. Kumaraswamy, who wrote that intense American pressure prevented the Israelis from annihilating the stranded Third Army.

Herzog noted that given the Third Army's desperate situation, in terms of being cut off from re-supply and reassertion of Israeli air superiority, the destruction of the Third Army was inevitable and could have been achieved within a very brief period. Shazly himself described the Third Army's plight as "desperate" and classified its encirclement as a "catastrophe that was too big to hide". He further noted that, "the fate of the Egyptian Third Army was in the hands of Israel. Once the Third Army was encircled by Israeli troops every bit of bread to be sent to our men was paid for by meeting Israeli demands."

Shortly before the ceasefire came into effect, an Israeli tank battalion advanced into Adabiya, and took it with support from the Israeli Navy. Some 1,500 Egyptian prisoners were taken, and about a hundred Egyptian soldiers assembled just south of Adabiya, where they held out against the Israelis. The Israelis also conducted their third and final incursion into Suez. They made some gains, but failed to break into the city center. As a result, the city was partitioned down the main street, with the Egyptians holding the city center and the Israelis controlling the outskirts, port installations and oil refinery, effectively surrounding the Egyptian defenders.
 
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@The SC & @Amir_Pharaoh , I think they'll probably use the Seasprite for the most part on the FREMMs, but which helo do you think the Egyptian Navy will most likely use with the Gowinds? I think they will use the Schiebel S-100 Camcopter as well but it seems they will also need either a utility or even an attack helo to operate off the deck?

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What have you proved exactly with that quotation? The defensive line had 250 men in the start of the war, the garrison wasn't a part of it.


You claim Israel lost 18,000 men in the Bar Lev line? I stopped reading there
You gained no objective in that war, lost 10 times more soldiers than Israel, lost 5 times more aircraft than Israel, lost 2.4 times more tanks than Israel, lost almost every battle, yet you continue to celebrate what happened in the first day of the war.

You should be really lame and pathetic to wage a war against your enemy in not only his most holy day, but in the only day he fasts and rests, yet you still lost.

Israel won the Yom Kippur war, as the war ended with Damascus within Israeli Artillery range, the IDF some 100km away from Cairo, and a whole Egyptian Army (the 3rd) totally encircled and at the mercy of the IDF for food, water, and medicine.

The Egyptian Failed Attack:
The 2nd and 3rd Armies were ordered to attack eastward in six simultaneous thrusts over a broad front, leaving behind five infantry divisions to hold the bridgeheads. The attacking forces, consisting of 800–1,000 tankswould not have SAM cover, so the Egyptian Air Force (EAF) was tasked with the defense of these forces from Israeli air attacks. Armored and mechanized units began the attack on October 14 with artillery support. They were up against 700–750 Israeli tanks.

Preparatory to the tank attack, Egyptian helicopters set down 100 commandos near the Lateral Road to disrupt the Israeli rear. An Israeli reconnaissance unit quickly subdued them, killing 60 and taking numerous prisoners. Still bruised by the extensive losses their commandos had suffered on the opening day of the war, the Egyptians were unable or unwilling to implement further commando operations that had been planned in conjunction with the armored attack. The Egyptian armored thrust suffered heavy losses. Instead of concentrating forces of maneuvering, except for the wadi thrust, Egyptian units launched head-on-attacks against the waiting Israeli defenses.

The Egyptian attack was decisively repelled. At least 250 Egyptian tanks and some 200 armored vehicles were destroyed. Egyptian casualties exceeded 1,000. Fewer than 40 Israeli tanks were hit and all but six of them were repaired by Israeli maintenance crews and returned to service, while Israeli casualties numbered 665.

Kenneth Pollack credited a successful Israeli commando raid early on October 14 against an Egyptian signals-intercept site at Jebel Ataqah with seriously disrupting Egyptian command and control and contributing to its breakdown during the engagement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War#The_Egyptian_failed_attack


Egypt's trapped Third Army

Kissinger found out about the Third Army's encirclement shortly thereafter. Kissinger considered that the situation presented the United States with a tremendous opportunity and that Egypt was dependent on the United States to prevent Israel from destroying its trapped army. The position could be parlayed later into allowing the United States to mediate the dispute and wean Egypt from Soviet influence. As a result, the United States exerted tremendous pressure on the Israelis to refrain from destroying the trapped army, even threatening to support a UN resolution demanding that the Israelis withdraw to their October 22 positions if they did not allow non-military supplies to reach the army. In a phone call with Israeli ambassador Simcha Dinitz, Kissinger told the ambassador that the destruction of the Egyptian Third Army "is an option that does not exist."

Despite being surrounded, the Third Army managed to maintain its combat integrity east of the canal and keep up its defensive positions, to the surprise of many.According to Trevor N. Dupuy, the Israelis, Soviets and Americans overestimated the vulnerability of the Third Army at the time. It was not on the verge of collapse, and he wrote that while a renewed Israeli offensive would probably overcome it, this was not a certainty, and according to David Elazar chief of Israeli headquarter staff on December 3, 1973: "As for the third army, in spite of our encircling them they resisted and advanced to occupy in fact a wider area of land at the east. Thus, we can not say that we defeated or conquered them."

David T. Buckwalter agrees that despite the isolation of the Third Army, it was unclear if the Israelis could have protected their forces on the west bank of the canal from a determined Egyptian assault and still maintain sufficient strength along the rest of the front. This assessment was challenged by Patrick Seale, who stated that the Third Army was "on the brink of collapse". Seale's position was supported by P.R. Kumaraswamy, who wrote that intense American pressure prevented the Israelis from annihilating the stranded Third Army.

Herzog noted that given the Third Army's desperate situation, in terms of being cut off from re-supply and reassertion of Israeli air superiority, the destruction of the Third Army was inevitable and could have been achieved within a very brief period. Shazly himself described the Third Army's plight as "desperate" and classified its encirclement as a "catastrophe that was too big to hide". He further noted that, "the fate of the Egyptian Third Army was in the hands of Israel. Once the Third Army was encircled by Israeli troops every bit of bread to be sent to our men was paid for by meeting Israeli demands."

Shortly before the ceasefire came into effect, an Israeli tank battalion advanced into Adabiya, and took it with support from the Israeli Navy. Some 1,500 Egyptian prisoners were taken, and about a hundred Egyptian soldiers assembled just south of Adabiya, where they held out against the Israelis. The Israelis also conducted their third and final incursion into Suez. They made some gains, but failed to break into the city center. As a result, the city was partitioned down the main street, with the Egyptians holding the city center and the Israelis controlling the outskirts, port installations and oil refinery, effectively surrounding the Egyptian defenders.

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@The SC & @Amir_Pharaoh , I think they'll probably use the Seasprite for the most part on the FREMMs, but which helo do you think the Egyptian Navy will most likely use with the Gowinds? I think they will use the Schiebel S-100 Camcopter as well but it seems they will also need either a utility or even an attack helo to operate off the deck?

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NH90 NFH (Naval Frigate Helicopter)
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That's right they were interested in the NH90 but not sure what happened with that. Certainly an excellent choice. I have a feeling they'll be using the Seapsrite on both and maybe occasionally fly a Ka-52K off the Gowinds.
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@The SC & @Amir_Pharaoh , I think they'll probably use the Seasprite for the most part on the FREMMs, but which helo do you think the Egyptian Navy will most likely use with the Gowinds? I think they will use the Schiebel S-100 Camcopter as well but it seems they will also need either a utility or even an attack helo to operate off the deck?

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Nothing has been confirmed yet ...
But I think it's going to be NH90.



New EAF video has been released by MoD


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