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Did you make that OES and DIRCM highlighted collage? That's pretty spiffy, my friend! :-)
That helo is a beast. Amazing how many gadgets it has on it.

At first I thought maybe the plate was some type of deflector from the weapons being fired off the wing pylons or something along those lines. Or even protection from that side-mounted gun since they did similar things like in the MiG-21 with gun gas deflector plates they installed on the fuselage, but it's mounted on both sides. But ask any helo pilot if they would like to have unrestricted view from the cockpit and I bet you most, if not all, would say probably yes despite all the visually aiding electronics. Just for being able to scan by eye to the sides while flying low or even looking out for clearances on tight landings and takeoff. The earlier models didn't have them, which made me think maybe it was protection from something off the helo itself. But your point that it's protection against small arms fire makes sense. Seems like a big sacrifice, but maybe not.

The information on the precious stones for the DIRCM laser is very cool. Good stuff, SC.
I didn't make that collage..
If one looks closer, the pilots can see above the plate down although a bit restricted vision, but just to the right of the plate they have full vision.. remember that pilots protection is a first order priority.. it is also the only helicopter with ejection seats..

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Nice camo for the MiG-29M/M2 or 35. We're going to need to figure out exactly what the damn designation of that fighter is!

Maybe the aircraft painted in this aqua camo will be flying maritime missions out of Hurghada? Either way, both look good.



Crotale's suspension looks like it went through a "Pimp My Ride" modification. :-)

Nice collection of pics, BTW. The Armed Forces have come a long way in showing pics of precision guided attacks by F-16's and Apaches. Remember the old days, where we would beg for a pic of an old MiG-21? lol. And how we complained so much that the old, silly hush-hush Soviet doctrine wasn't doing them any good? They must've been listening to us, Frogman! :D

The Wing Loong was a good purchase. Seems to be a decent UAV with some combat capabilities. Their next and more dedicated model should be an excellent UCAV to complement this one with a greater weapons load. Glad to see the brass getting involved in this part of the future of air combat. If there is any ToT that needs to be taken seriously and that is not as overwhelming as a fighter build, this is the one. And they already have experience in this field so it should be much easier to take off with it, pun intended!

The stated range of a missile is a bit of a red herring. It would only ever do that against a non-maneuverable target flying at a consistent altitude while being fired from a higher altitude. Basically a slow dumb front flying target drone.
I stole this because it's more articulate than I ever could be on this subject. Credit to hornetfinn on f16.net.

While all of that is fine and dandy, that concept applies to both or all missiles. Those factors will affect the AMRAAM just the same as the MICA. However, range will still be a constant factor despite limitations caused by distance, air densities, energy depletion etc. Factor in other essential techs that make a difference such as impact detonation vs fuse proximity, mid-course target updates etc. The AMRAAM has had extensive testing and tech improvements through the years that have really made it hard to beat, especially the C8/D. If tactics bring the engagements to within 50 km, I think that's when they both become more on par.

So far there hasn't been a missile that can touch a fighter out that far.

We just haven't seen it yet. There hasn't been a documented kill (in anger) over 9 kilometers since the USN F-14 Tomcat shot down that Libyan MiG-23 back in the 80's.

The MICA is a very good missile which focuses on maneuverability first and foremost.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's excellent and has given the EAF that added boost. The numbers just don't support it moving into that larger, BVR spectrum that creates potent, standoff threats like BVR weaponry should.

It will be the best AAM in the inventory for quite some time even if the AIM-120 and R77 are introduced.

Wuuuuuut?! It doesn't even come close to the earlier versions of the AIM-120 in the A/B, let alone C8/D version.
The R-77 has some issues, there's no doubt about that. Still, I hope to see it as part of the MiG's weapon's systems.

Plus the MICA NG and Meteor are right around the corner.

That's when I think we can say that there is parity in the BVR caps between those two missiles. Is the Meteor slated to be sold to Egypt? Do we know that for a fact? I hope so. And do we know if the current RB2e will need upgrading to accommodate firing the Meteor?
 
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DCNS Exports Pegged to Egypt Frigate Order

PARIS — The French government provided a financing structure that was crucial to the sale of a sophisticated multimission frigate to Egypt, a source close to the deal said.

"Without the financing structure there would not have been the contract," the source said.

Cairo signed the contract on Feb. 16 with DCNS for the frigate, part of the €5.2 billion ($5.9 billion) French arms package comprising 24 Dassault Rafale fighter jets and short- and medium-range missiles.

There is a lack of official information on the prices. But the amount for the frigate for Egypt is based on a price of some €800 million per ship that France will pay for its order for eight of the new warships, the source said. That figure does not include maintenance.

The price of the multimission frigate, dubbed Frégate Multimission, has risen as the orders fell from an initial 17 to 11 and now eight FREMMS, with a prospective order for three intermediate frigates.

Egypt is due to pay for the frigate in full rather than by installments when the ship is handed over in time for the August opening of a waterway on the Suez canal. Payment of a deposit and installments is the method used when the ship is being built, but the frigate is already ready for delivery.

Egypt bought four DCNS Gowind corvettes last summer for some €1 billion and talks continue for the two additional ships under option. That deal is seen by some as key for the larger order just placed and which includes the first export order for the Rafale.

Morocco, a former French protectorate, is the only other export customer for the FREMM. That purchase, which was at a low price, was effectively a goodwill gesture as Rabat had ordered the Lockheed Martin F-16.

In export markets, DCNS has sold the Lafayette light frigate to Taiwan, Singapore and Saudi Arabia, but the FREMM is seen as too sophisticated and too expensive for most foreign buyers. In export tenders, FREMM is at the "high end," just below the Americans, the source said.

Thales plays a big role in DCNS' export wins as the electronics company supplies radar, sonar and communications that rivals competing bids.

Foreign clients already know which combat system, missile, sonar and radar is to be fitted but they are agnostic about the ship. That competition for the vessel leads to pressure to cut the profit margin and bank on a long-term relationship.

DCNS set up in 2013 the Kership joint venture with shipbuilder Piriou to build a simpler 75-meter ship that would be affordable for more countries. The strategy is that navies will start simple but stay with the same shipmaker as ambitions and skill grow for a more capable vessel. Cultivating that kind of naval loyalty is seen to be worth cutting the sale price and accepting a lower profit.

Regarding armaments, Europe is split into two camps: Dutch, German and Spanish naval shipbuilders solely offer US surface-to-air missiles, while the others fit European MBDA weapons. DCNS fits French MBDA missiles, while Italy offers, at least on paper, both US and European weapons, the source said.

DCNS seeks to boost exports to two-thirds from the current one-third of annual sales in five years. That drive to "internationalize" the company will require technology transfer and local production. Australia, Brazil and India are seen as potential partners in that "multidomestic" approach, a policy set by Thales' former Chairman Denis Ranque.

In export markets, China has become highly active, offering small ships at half the price and backed by state financing.

As the European naval market is shrinking and the domestic industrial base protected, the sales focus is fixed on India, Southeast Asia and Latin America.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...e-fremm-dcns-rafale-export-corvette/23674673/
 
DCNS Exports Pegged to Egypt Frigate Order

PARIS — The French government provided a financing structure that was crucial to the sale of a sophisticated multimission frigate to Egypt, a source close to the deal said.

"Without the financing structure there would not have been the contract," the source said.

Cairo signed the contract on Feb. 16 with DCNS for the frigate, part of the €5.2 billion ($5.9 billion) French arms package comprising 24 Dassault Rafale fighter jets and short- and medium-range missiles.

There is a lack of official information on the prices. But the amount for the frigate for Egypt is based on a price of some €800 million per ship that France will pay for its order for eight of the new warships, the source said. That figure does not include maintenance.

The price of the multimission frigate, dubbed Frégate Multimission, has risen as the orders fell from an initial 17 to 11 and now eight FREMMS, with a prospective order for three intermediate frigates.

Egypt is due to pay for the frigate in full rather than by installments when the ship is handed over in time for the August opening of a waterway on the Suez canal. Payment of a deposit and installments is the method used when the ship is being built, but the frigate is already ready for delivery.

Egypt bought four DCNS Gowind corvettes last summer for some €1 billion and talks continue for the two additional ships under option. That deal is seen by some as key for the larger order just placed and which includes the first export order for the Rafale.

Morocco, a former French protectorate, is the only other export customer for the FREMM. That purchase, which was at a low price, was effectively a goodwill gesture as Rabat had ordered the Lockheed Martin F-16.

In export markets, DCNS has sold the Lafayette light frigate to Taiwan, Singapore and Saudi Arabia, but the FREMM is seen as too sophisticated and too expensive for most foreign buyers. In export tenders, FREMM is at the "high end," just below the Americans, the source said.

Thales plays a big role in DCNS' export wins as the electronics company supplies radar, sonar and communications that rivals competing bids.

Foreign clients already know which combat system, missile, sonar and radar is to be fitted but they are agnostic about the ship. That competition for the vessel leads to pressure to cut the profit margin and bank on a long-term relationship.

DCNS set up in 2013 the Kership joint venture with shipbuilder Piriou to build a simpler 75-meter ship that would be affordable for more countries. The strategy is that navies will start simple but stay with the same shipmaker as ambitions and skill grow for a more capable vessel. Cultivating that kind of naval loyalty is seen to be worth cutting the sale price and accepting a lower profit.

Regarding armaments, Europe is split into two camps: Dutch, German and Spanish naval shipbuilders solely offer US surface-to-air missiles, while the others fit European MBDA weapons. DCNS fits French MBDA missiles, while Italy offers, at least on paper, both US and European weapons, the source said.

DCNS seeks to boost exports to two-thirds from the current one-third of annual sales in five years. That drive to "internationalize" the company will require technology transfer and local production. Australia, Brazil and India are seen as potential partners in that "multidomestic" approach, a policy set by Thales' former Chairman Denis Ranque.

In export markets, China has become highly active, offering small ships at half the price and backed by state financing.

As the European naval market is shrinking and the domestic industrial base protected, the sales focus is fixed on India, Southeast Asia and Latin America.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...e-fremm-dcns-rafale-export-corvette/23674673/
I think 650 million euro
so was it 1 billion, 650 million or 800 million?
 
@Blue Marlin @The SC @MICA

800 million per ship that France will pay for its order for eight of the new warships

egypt deal for 24 rafale & 1 fremm is 4.5B euro , 3.5B for 24 rafale with armament & 1B for fremm with armament ,50% of the deal is a french loan ,
another 1B for 4 gowind corvettes with transfer of technology as 3 will built in Alexandria shipyard and 300m euro for the gowind armament
950 m euros for the 2 mistrals & 500m euro for the french satellite

this is the egyptian/french deals prices
 
@Blue Marlin @The SC @MICA

800 million per ship that France will pay for its order for eight of the new warships

egypt deal for 24 rafale & 1 fremm is 4.5B euro , 3.5B for 24 rafale with armament & 1B for fremm with armament ,50% of the deal is a french loan ,
another 1B for 4 gowind corvettes with transfer of technology as 3 will built in Alexandria shipyard and 300m euro for the gowind armament
950 m euros for the 2 mistrals & 500m euro for the french satellite

this is the egyptian/french deals prices
Egypt's defense budget?
 

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