Egyptian Armed Forces

[Frogman]

BTW, do you ever get to Mach Loop in Wales? Looks like one heck of a spot if you can get there during jet-flying season.

Nope, the only place we go in Wales is Brecon and that's an almighty shithole with a weather system permanently set to rain. It also smells like goat shit 24/7. Only Army Air Corps stuff up there when on Ex.

See plenty of Tornados and Typhoons in the Lake District though when I go up there.

 

[Gomig-21]

That UAE block 60 is so sweet.

Nope, the only place we go in Wales is Brecon and that's an almighty shithole with a weather system permanently set to rain. It also smells like goat shit 24/7. Only Army Air Corps stuff up there when on Ex.

See plenty of Tornados and Typhoons in the Lake District though when I go up there.

It smells that bad? lol. Looks like a good hike to get up the mountains and be able to spot them flying through that canyon or valley or whatever.

MAKS 2015 - MiG-35 Show of Agility HD

Very cool. Interesting thought - when you think of all the developments in ECM and AWACS and radars and beyond visual range technology and weaponry and even long range SAMs and how their lethality only gets better and better, it makes you think about all those factors that are basically designed to prevent exactly what is in that video, the traditional 'Dogfight.' Russians have put so much emphasis on maneuverability and TVC with the designs of their jets and even promoting the use of certain maneuvers like the Cobra etc. But is the art of dog-fighting really a thing of the past? With all these new technologies designed to eliminate any close interaction, what are the chances of a close engagement in let's say 10 opportunities? Should the emphasis on maneuverability be so highly considered on an aircraft, or its technological capabilities to be an offensive/defensive platform from a great distance? It seems all this advancement in technology is actually more of a deterrent than anything else.

 

[HannibalBarca]

That UAE block 60 is so sweet.



It smells that bad? lol. Looks like a good hike to get up the mountains and be able to spot them flying through that canyon or valley or whatever.



Very cool. Interesting thought - when you think of all the developments in ECM and AWACS and radars and beyond visual range technology and weaponry and even long range SAMs and how their lethality only gets better and better, it makes you think about all those factors that are basically designed to prevent exactly what is in that video, the traditional 'Dogfight.' Russians have put so much emphasis on maneuverability and TVC with the designs of their jets and even promoting the use of certain maneuvers like the Cobra etc. But is the art of dog-fighting really a thing of the past? With all these new technologies designed to eliminate any close interaction, what are the chances of a close engagement in let's say 10 opportunities? Should the emphasis on maneuverability be so highly considered on an aircraft, or its technological capabilities to be an offensive/defensive platform from a great distance? It seems all this advancement in technology is actually more of a deterrent than anything else.

When your aircraft is lacking in some areas... the best they can do is promote somthing "not that usefull". It's like those Car commercial, when they speak about how good the stereo/gps/color is without speaking about fuel consumption/the engine etc...

 

[Taygibay]

and that's an almighty shithole with a weather system permanently set to rain.

Is that really specific to Brecon?

I thought I'd overheard meteorologists sayin' that with Brexit, the European average for sunny days would go up.​

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[The SC]

That UAE block 60 is so sweet.






Very cool. Interesting thought - when you think of all the developments in ECM and AWACS and radars and beyond visual range technology and weaponry and even long range SAMs and how their lethality only gets better and better, it makes you think about all those factors that are basically designed to prevent exactly what is in that video, the traditional 'Dogfight.' Russians have put so much emphasis on maneuverability and TVC with the designs of their jets and even promoting the use of certain maneuvers like the Cobra etc. But is the art of dog-fighting really a thing of the past? With all these new technologies designed to eliminate any close interaction, what are the chances of a close engagement in let's say 10 opportunities? Should the emphasis on maneuverability be so highly considered on an aircraft, or its technological capabilities to be an offensive/defensive platform from a great distance? It seems all this advancement in technology is actually more of a deterrent than anything else.

Still a good chance, from a minimum of 1 or 2 to a maximum of 4 to 5.. (Not including 5th G)

 

[Frogman]

It smells that bad? lol.

The Army shares its training areas with farmers and the like so there's livestock everywhere. Some say that if you hit a cow herd with a pen flare it may cause a mini stampede and scare the **** out of some guys, but I wouldn't know anything about that.

Looks like a good hike to get up the mountains and be able to spot them flying through that canyon or valley or whatever.

They tend to come quite low so even if you were canoeing or kayaking you could get a good look.

Is that really specific to Brecon?

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Army training areas. Once you set one foot beyond the green sign with the crown and crossed swords you're guaranteed a shit time.

I thought I'd overheard meteorologists sayin' that with Brexit, the European average for sunny days would go up.

Take us back please

 

[Taygibay]

Take us back please

We may have to integrate the Scots first but anytime after that mate!

Tay.

 

[Hell NO]

That UAE block 60 is so sweet.



It smells that bad? lol. Looks like a good hike to get up the mountains and be able to spot them flying through that canyon or valley or whatever.



Very cool. Interesting thought - when you think of all the developments in ECM and AWACS and radars and beyond visual range technology and weaponry and even long range SAMs and how their lethality only gets better and better, it makes you think about all those factors that are basically designed to prevent exactly what is in that video, the traditional 'Dogfight.' Russians have put so much emphasis on maneuverability and TVC with the designs of their jets and even promoting the use of certain maneuvers like the Cobra etc. But is the art of dog-fighting really a thing of the past? With all these new technologies designed to eliminate any close interaction, what are the chances of a close engagement in let's say 10 opportunities? Should the emphasis on maneuverability be so highly considered on an aircraft, or its technological capabilities to be an offensive/defensive platform from a great distance? It seems all this advancement in technology is actually more of a deterrent than anything else.

Funny because they thought the same thing in the 60s and 70s after the introduction of heat seeking missiles and even stopped putting guns on aircrafts we all know how that went down long story short the existence of a gun on fifth generation fighters (like f35 &f22 ) indicate that dogfighting is a live and well and will stay that way for a while at least

 

[HannibalBarca]

Enjoy

 

[Frogman]

Enjoy

Without the watermark.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Without the watermark.

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Better

 

[Frogman]

Egyptian and UAE Special Forces

 

[MICA]

Egyptian and UAE Special Forces

They would look good on libya shores

 

[Frogman]

They would look good on libya shores

*Greater Egypt's shores

 

[blondeturkish]

how is the war in sinai going? i hope you are winning it.