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I respect the Egyptian forces. Very professional and well equipped. But i question the training they show the recruits undergoing in the documentary.

What is the battlefield application of throwing sand in your face? Or tilting your boat, or lifting your boat? Or jogging through fake explosions?
I used to have an Egyptian friend many years ago, he once showed me a video of an Egyptian parade where special forces guy eats a raw chicken after breaking its neck. I couldn't stop laughing, I mean that he could do that is awesome but what help will his chicken eating skills be in a battlefield? I wish i could find the video for you.
 
Well, I'm sorry mate but I saw this kind of disruption activated with my own eyes in equipment not related to our discussion. Not the engines mind you to even the plane's commands ... but the radar, yes, it exists.
The usual way though is to have techs present to shut down systems.
As for your confidence in treaties and promises, it honors you but let m give you a recent example :
Ukraine's territorial integrity was guaranteed in 1994 by the US and UK and Russia by treaty …
we now know what that promise was worth? Bye Bye Crimea!

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so Chinese Sukhoi can russia deactivate them by pressing a button ? if this is true then there is no point to any country around the world to buy imported jets

I respect the Egyptian forces. Very professional and well equipped. But i question the training they show the recruits undergoing in the documentary.

What is the battlefield application of throwing sand in your face? Or tilting your boat, or lifting your boat? Or jogging through fake explosions?
I used to have an Egyptian friend many years ago, he once showed me a video of an Egyptian parade where special forces guy eats a raw chicken after breaking its neck. I couldn't stop laughing, I mean that he could do that is awesome but what help will his chicken eating skills be in a battlefield? I wish i could find the video for you.
i think this is to train SF to survive in desert with no supply or behind enemy lines
 
so Chinese Sukhoi can russia deactivate them by pressing a button ? if this is true then there is no point to any country around the world to buy imported jets
Well, honestly, Russia is probably the lesser culprit at this "game".
As I said, it all depends on your relationship to the seller.
AND, it is an excellent reason to buy paths from another place and an even better one to develop your own tech?
Why do you think Israel modifies all its jets and makes their own radars and electronics?

I agree on the basis, mate, it is immoral but then again, war … you know?
Peace out, Tay.
 
Well, honestly, Russia is probably the lesser culprit at this "game".
As I said, it all depends on your relationship to the seller.
AND, it is an excellent reason to buy paths from another place and an even better one to develop your own tech?
Why do you think Israel modifies all its jets and makes their own radars and electronics?

I agree on the basis, mate, it is immoral but then again, war … you know?
Peace out, Tay.
nothing in this world is fair but i dont think all around the world countries are that stupid to buy jets they cant use the way they want unless there is a way to modify these jets
 
I respect the Egyptian forces. Very professional and well equipped. But i question the training they show the recruits undergoing in the documentary.

What is the battlefield application of throwing sand in your face? Or tilting your boat, or lifting your boat? Or jogging through fake explosions?
I used to have an Egyptian friend many years ago, he once showed me a video of an Egyptian parade where special forces guy eats a raw chicken after breaking its neck. I couldn't stop laughing, I mean that he could do that is awesome but what help will his chicken eating skills be in a battlefield? I wish i could find the video for you.
You forgot something they also make special forces soldiers swim in kind of a lake full of died bodies of dogs if the trainer saw that you were Disgusted he will make you kiss one of the bodies.
If you can't see the importance of this I think this forum is not the place for you.
 
nothing in this world is fair but i dont think all around the world countries are that stupid to buy jets they cant use the way they want unless there is a way to modify these jets
Oh but there is a way, Mahmoud! Buy the jets and have the equipment changed for one. Or …
learn to build proprietary systems and put them on them.
Why do you think as I said that some nations develop expertise in radars and missiles?

But at the same time, some just pick a master along with a source and follow the lead.
And if you want stupid, look no further than some less proud African countries than Egypt who buy a couple dozen jets from wherever and then have to hire foreigners to pilot them because their own education systems never produce people with the necessary skills. Then, after a few years, when war seems distant or revenues fall, they just let these fighters rot until they can't be fixed anymore?

I have a feeling that you don't believe or trust me which is entirely your right. But if it is the case, do enquire to folks you have faith in that know about such things. You'll see.

Good night for now mate, talk to you later, Tay.
 
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What is the battlefield application of throwing sand in your face? Or tilting your boat, or lifting your boat? Or jogging through fake explosions?

What you have to remember about this particular sort of training is that it is a precursor to joining the Special Forces. The majority of the guys participating are already accomplished officers, ncos, and in special cases pvts/conscripts from the Infantry, Navy, and Air Force (SAR).

Now, the sand/mud in the face is part of the grueling physical exercises and tests that usually dominate the start of the course (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) and culminates in Hell Week (a week of agonising physical training without sleep and with little food). This part of the course is meant to ensure that only those who are mentally and physically tough enough to become Special Forces progress in the course. While many drop out in this period, they will still be accomplished in their particular area or arms, for them they just weren't cut out to be SF and there's nothing wrong with that.

In terms of military application Special Forces will operate in areas where there is a lot of sand so getting covered in it in training while still being effective is good preparation (although something went wrong if you do get covered head to toe in sand while on ops). Tilting and resurfacing the boat in the water is an essential drill, you would be expected to do the same thing in combat if a RHIB or any boat overturned. Carrying the boat is part of the grueling physical exercises.

Running through fake explosions/fire with blank or live rounds going off in the background is meant to add realism to the training, that is the potential environment any soldier may be operating in. What you don't want is soldiers deployed on ops and then being phased or shocked when they are contacted by small arms or DF/IDF.

I used to have an Egyptian friend many years ago, he once showed me a video of an Egyptian parade where special forces guy eats a raw chicken after breaking its neck. I couldn't stop laughing, I mean that he could do that is awesome but what help will his chicken eating skills be in a battlefield? I wish i could find the video for you.

I know the video (there are plenty out there btw) and its ridiculous nature is very much intended for its particular purpose, a parade, a show/entertainment. However, it is an essential skill the SF guys have learnt. They may often deploy behind enemy lines or in enemy territory for long periods of time, and as such they have to be self sufficient in every aspect as logistical support may be hard if not impossible. Although they have their issued rations if that runs out they will need to learn to live and eat in the environment they are deployed in, that means catching/finding, cooking (if they can), and eating wild chickens (yes such a thing exists), snakes, birds, potatoes, vegetables, and any other form of food. Perhaps the most important skill they learn in this training which is literally called survival is how to find water.
 
@SipahSalar
I can confirm that in France, in commando training, the same chicken thing was taught.
The idea runs thus :
You're alone and hurt, an arm barely functional in enemy territory
You grab the chicken, even a "civilian" one caught from a farm …
break away its neck with your teeth and drink its blood.
Voilà, life support for a couple hours.

Of course, that would be life support for you, not for the chicken!

And yes, you need to know that your guys have the guts and grit before they go into mission,
not as it ends in failure cuz' they ran out of nail polish ( no attack on Poles or Poland ;) ).

I hope it helps, Tay.
 
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No, Egypt stated it will only defend the maritime shipping routes surrounding the gulf of Aden against aggression or blockage by any party in Yemen. That's as far as the administration is willing to go militarily in regards to Yemen and even that is insignificant as there would be international action against such an act.

The Saudis are still not contemplating involvement, the Houthis only control North Yemen and them being able spread is questionable.
 
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it's on youtube guys post it because i can't yet
 

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