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Egypt today has received first three of the 24 Rafales it ordered in a $6 billion deal with France in February this year.

Egyptian authorities took charge of the planes at an air base in southern France and will be taken to Cairo by trained pilots on Tuesday, AFP reported.

Egypt signed a deal with France for single FREMM frigate from DCNS, 16 two seater Rafales and eight single-seater Rafales on February 16 this year. The contract also included Air-to Air Missile, Scalp cruise missile by MBDA and Sagem.

Egypt ordered AASM hammer guided missiles for its Rafales last month.

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Hi,
This is how deal are done swift and smoothly not dragging them for years and years
 
And you thought they couldn't pay, could they ?
so it was a payment issue ?
what sky walker is trying to say is that you need to pay quickly. and @Skywalker is trying to say the saudis paid for them but actually Egypt got a french loan to pay for french equipment. how convenient. and also they got them so fast because Egypt needed them quickly for it bombing role. actually how they got it so fast is because the jet they received where meant to be for the french air force. but they were simply transferred to Egypt instead . after a few modifications such as removing the nuclear capable systems. its also worth point out these jest were at the end of the production lines so they are brand new. also fast tracking orders comes at a cost.
 
And you thought they couldn't pay, could they ?
so it was a payment issue ?
Can you not understand the simple logic as they didn't have enough finances at that time so they requested Saudis, who accepted that straightaway since they are part of their coalition in Yemen. Arbi arbi bhai bhai.
 
Can you not u derby and the simple logic as they didn't have enough finances at that time so they requested Saudis, who accepted that straightaway since they are part of their coalition in Yemen. Arbi arbi bhai bhai.

Except that didn't happen.
 
Hi,
what the loan and the aid you mean, which Saudi have to egyptians, that didn't happen ?


Half of the deal is funded by the French treasury and the other half of the payment is Egyptian through a mixture of loans and straight up payment. The French treasury will eventually be reimbursed. Meaning eventually the deal is paid for 100% by Egypt. The Saudis have nothing to do with this deal.
 



As per your article:-

The Saudi funds comprise a $2 billion central bank deposit, $2 billion in energy products, and $1 billion in cash, the Saudi Finance Minister Ibrahim Alassaf told Reuters.

The United Arab Emirates will make a $1 billion grant to Egypt and a $2 billion loan, state news agency WAM said on Tuesday. The $2 billion loan would take the form of an interest-free deposit with Egypt's central bank, WAM said

Egypt Seeks Bank Loans for French Arms Buy

Egypt is seeking a bank loan to partially finance a prospective order for the Rafale fighter jet, a multimission frigate and missiles, an unusual financing deal likely to require high-level political support, two analysts said.

A deal with Egypt would enable a speedy export order seen as needed to relieve severe budgetary pressure on France, which is in a pressing search for foreign clients for Dassault and DCNS.

Egyptian officials have been in "discussions with banks" to find commercial lending that would allow paying France a 15 percent down payment for the military equipment, a market analyst said.

The talks have been held with French banks as Cairo seeks to raise the down payment required, a second analyst said. That client down payment is one of the golden rules, answering the call to "show me the money," the analyst said.

Bank lending for arms purchases is not new, but the Egyptian search for funds is remarkable for the size and the speed in which the loan is sought.

Egypt wants to close the deal in time for a frigate and three Rafales to be present when a new stretch of waterway by the Suez Canal is opened in August, newsletter TTU has reported.

Coface, the French export credit guarantee department, has asked the commercial lenders to carry part of the funding on their own books rather than rely on the global credit insurer to provide insurance for the full amount, the first analyst said.

Coface would sign up on an Egyptian contract if the Treasury Department, which reports to the Economy Ministry, agreed to the deal. But there is reluctance in the Economy Ministry as Egypt is seen as a fragile economy, the first analyst said.

If Egypt fell behind on payment, the insurance from Coface would repay from the public purse the makers of the Rafale, frigate and missiles, which are Dassault Aviation, DCNS and MBDA, respectively.

A DCNS executive confirmed talks were being held with Egypt. Dassault, MBDA, Treasury and the Egyptian embassy declined comment.
 
As per your article:-

The Saudi funds comprise a $2 billion central bank deposit, $2 billion in energy products, and $1 billion in cash, the Saudi Finance Minister Ibrahim Alassaf told Reuters.

The United Arab Emirates will make a $1 billion grant to Egypt and a $2 billion loan, state news agency WAM said on Tuesday. The $2 billion loan would take the form of an interest-free deposit with Egypt's central bank, WAM said

Egypt Seeks Bank Loans for French Arms Buy

Egypt is seeking a bank loan to partially finance a prospective order for the Rafale fighter jet, a multimission frigate and missiles, an unusual financing deal likely to require high-level political support, two analysts said.

A deal with Egypt would enable a speedy export order seen as needed to relieve severe budgetary pressure on France, which is in a pressing search for foreign clients for Dassault and DCNS.

Egyptian officials have been in "discussions with banks" to find commercial lending that would allow paying France a 15 percent down payment for the military equipment, a market analyst said.

The talks have been held with French banks as Cairo seeks to raise the down payment required, a second analyst said. That client down payment is one of the golden rules, answering the call to "show me the money," the analyst said.

Bank lending for arms purchases is not new, but the Egyptian search for funds is remarkable for the size and the speed in which the loan is sought.

Egypt wants to close the deal in time for a frigate and three Rafales to be present when a new stretch of waterway by the Suez Canal is opened in August, newsletter TTU has reported.

Coface, the French export credit guarantee department, has asked the commercial lenders to carry part of the funding on their own books rather than rely on the global credit insurer to provide insurance for the full amount, the first analyst said.

Coface would sign up on an Egyptian contract if the Treasury Department, which reports to the Economy Ministry, agreed to the deal. But there is reluctance in the Economy Ministry as Egypt is seen as a fragile economy, the first analyst said.

If Egypt fell behind on payment, the insurance from Coface would repay from the public purse the makers of the Rafale, frigate and missiles, which are Dassault Aviation, DCNS and MBDA, respectively.

A DCNS executive confirmed talks were being held with Egypt. Dassault, MBDA, Treasury and the Egyptian embassy declined comment.
Hi,

Lets take this to next levels, seems like you didn't enjoy it last time.
Saudi Arabia and UAE Ready Massive $20bn Aid Package to Boost Egypt's Shattered Economy
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/bus...announces-4-billion-aid-package-to-Egypt.html
Saudi and Egypt are closer than ever to creating an Arab air force - Business Insider
 
Nice ... EAF now should armed its F16 with BVRAAM
 

It seems you didn't understand.

Gulf aid is typically deposited in three ways to Egypt. First is money going straight to Egypt's foreign reserve in order to prop up the Egyptian central bank and increase or stabilise Egypt's credit rating in order to maintain or increase foreign direct investment. The second way is in the form of fuel shipments which help manage Egypt's chronic fuel and gas crisis. The third is through direct foreign investment.

None of this aid is solvent money which the Egyptian gov can simply go and spend on whatever it wishes. Whether you want to accept it or not the Egyptian Rafale deal is not financed by the Gulf although gulf aid has helped Egypt in getting the deal (by propping up Egypt's foreign reserves thus stabilising Egypt's credit rating).
 
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