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Egypt showered with Gulf billions in show of support for army

I have to force response to your sympathy, the thugs are Arabs terrorists and Wahabasims who were exported to worldwide. Have you curb suicide bombings and hate speech taught in Arab countries, still working on?

We must say, US drones should start immediately on Saudi Arabia and some connection in Jordan/Yemen/Qatar. Why would we say this? Pakistan has gained some valuable experiences against Taliban war, Arab fighters, and Al-Qaeda groups last ten years. We have learned Arabs behaviors still same and unchanged toward Egypt now after Syria riots.

When would those US drones start flying over our heads? :smokin: I hope we don't wait for long. :azn:


Your crying confirms that what Saudis have been doing is working:chilli: pretty well. Enjoy..

Couldn't agree more, but his fault has nothing to do with his nationality more than his blinkered vision, narrow mentality.

God forbid, I'm not talking about Pakistanis but rather sellouts who exist everywhere.
 
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Gulf states showered Cairo with $8billion in aid on Tuesday, showing their support for the Egyptian army's move to push the Muslim Brotherhood from power, a day after troops killed dozens of the movement's supporters.

Military-backed interim head of state Adli Mansour named a liberal economist as acting prime minister and announced a faster-than-expected timetable for elections in six months.

Mansour's army backers are under pressure to plot a path back to democracy less than a week after they overthrew Egypt's first freely elected president, the Brotherhood's Mohammad Mursi.

The country is now more divided than ever in its modern history after 55 people were killed when troops opened fire on Brotherhood supporters in the capital. The movement says the victims were praying in peace; the government blames the Islamists for provoking the violence by attacking the soldiers.

Mansour, a judge installed as acting president when the military removed Mursi, named Hazem el-Beblawi as interim prime minister. He served briefly as finance minister in 2011. Former U.N. diplomat Mohamed ElBaradei, now a liberal party leader, is to be deputy president responsible for foreign affairs.

Importantly, the choice of Beblawi won the acceptance of the ultra-orthodox Islamist Nour Party - sometime ally of Mursi and the Brotherhood. Nour leaders have been courted by the interim authorities to show that Islamists need not be marginalized.

Monday's bloodshed has raised alarm among key donors such as the United States and the European Union, as well as in Israel, with which Egypt has had a U.S.-backed peace treaty since 1979.

Wealthy Gulf Arab states, long suspicious of the Muslim Brotherhood, have shown fewer reservations. The United Arab Emirates offered a grant of $1 billion and a loan of $2 billion. Saudi Arabia offered $3 billion in cash and loans, and an additional $2 billion worth of much-needed fuel.

In a further demonstration of its support, UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed visited Egypt on Tuesday, the most senior foreign official to arrive since Mursi's removal.

“Even if they kill us all”

The army brought down Mursi a year after he took power, saying it was acting on popular will because millions of people had taken to the streets to demand his resignation.

To the Brotherhood, his removal amounted to the reversal of democracy by entrenched interests who would never accept their election victories. The long-banned Brotherhood fears a return to the suppression endured for decades under autocratic rulers.

“The only road map is the restoration of the president elected by the people,” said Hoda Ghaneya, 45, a Muslim Brotherhood activist. “We will not accept less than that,” she added. “Even if they kill us all.”

Thousands of Mursi followers gathered on Tuesday at the site of a vigil near a mosque in northeast Cairo, where they have vowed to remain camping out in the fierce heat until he is restored to power - an aim that now seems vain.

“Revolutionaries! Free people! We will complete the journey!” chanted a speaker as the crowd held aloft a wooden coffin draped in an Egyptian flag. The vigil and rally lasted through the day and well into the evening, with speaker after speaker calling for the restoration of Mursi, who is in custody.

Brotherhood supporters also marched in their thousands in the Mediterranean port of Alexandria, Egypt's second city, which has been the scene of violence in recent days.

Medical sources confirmed at least 55 people had been killed in Monday's dawn shootings, raising the death toll in the incident, the deadliest in the two and a half years of Egypt's political turmoil apart from a riot at a soccer stadium in 2012.

The Brotherhood says Monday's violence was an unprovoked attack on worshippers holding peaceful dawn prayers outside a barracks where they believed Mursi was being held.

The authorities say the shooting was in response to an attack on army troops and announced an investigation into 650suspects for offences from “thuggery” to murder and terrorism. Egyptian media, mainly controlled by the state, praised the army and denounced Monday's violence as the work of terrorists.

Amnesty International said that whether or not the security forces acted in response to provocations, they were guilty of using “grossly disproportionate force”.

But in a sign of the country's deep divisions, most Cairo residents seemed to accept the official account and blame the Brotherhood for its own members' deaths.

“Of course I condemn this: Egyptian versus Egyptian. But the people attacked the army, not the other way around,” said Abdullah Abdel Rayal, 58, shopping in a street market in downtown Cairo on Tuesday morning.

Some in Cairo are flying banners from balconies with portraits of General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, the military commander who toppled Mursi.

In an address before Wednesday's start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, Sisi made clear who was in charge: “No party has the right to oppose the will of the nation,” he said.

Arab cash urgently needed

Tuesday's Saudi and UAE aid provides Egypt with urgently needed funds to distribute the subsidized fuel and food that sustains its 84 million people. Coffers are desperately short since Arab Spring unrest drove away tourists and investors.

The money also buys time for Cairo to negotiate with the International Monetary Fund for a $4.8 billion rescue loan, long stalled. The United States gives Cairo $1.5 billion a year, most of it in the form of direct aid to the Egyptian military.

Both Saudi Arabia and the UAE had promised aid after former autocrat Hosni Mubarak was toppled in 2011, but withheld it under Mursi. Mursi's administration had help, notably, from Qatar, which has warmer ties with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Another country which developed good relations with Mursi, Turkey, has been criticized by Cairo's new leaders. Its ambassador was summoned to explain why Ankara's Islamist-rooted government denounced the army move as an “unacceptable coup”.

Acting Egyptian leader Mansour decreed overnight that parliamentary vote would be held in about six months, faster than many expected. That would be followed by a presidential election. An amended constitution would be put to a referendum.

The Brotherhood rejected the plan. Senior Brotherhood figure Essam El-Erian condemned a “decree issued after midnight by a person appointed by the putschists usurping the legislative power from a council elected by the people, and bringing the country back to stage zero.”

The military-backed authorities seem to be resigned to restarting politics without the Brotherhood. Instead, they are courting the country's other main Islamist group, Nour, which had said on Monday it was pulling out of all political talks as a result of the attack on Mursi supporters.

Nour's signal that it would now support Beblawi as prime minister showed it had not fully abandoned politics: “We do noto bject to Dr. Hazem. He is an important economic figure,” Nour Party head Younes Makhyoun told Reuters.

In what appeared to be an olive branch to Islamists - and a move that also angered liberals - Mansour's decree included language put into the constitution last year that defined the principles of Islamic law, or sharia.

Nathan Brown, a leading expert on Egypt's constitution at George Washington University in Washington, said that while the overnight decree laid out a clear sequence for transition, it also repeated some mistakes made two years ago, after Mubarak.

“It was drawn up by an anonymous committee; it was issued by executive fiat; the timetable is rushed; the provisions for consultation are vague; and it promises inclusiveness but gives no clear procedural guidelines for it,” he told Reuters.

The West, and Washington in particular, has had a difficult time formulating a public response after years of pushing Arab leaders towards democracy while nervous about the Brotherhood's rise. Demonstrators on both sides in Egypt chant anti-American slogans, accusing Washington of backing their enemies.

Washington has refrained from calling the military intervention a “coup” - a label that under U.S. law would require it to halt aid.

The State Department said on Tuesday that Washington was encouraged that the Egyptian authorities had “laid out a plan for the path forward” with the election timetable.

Although Tuesday was comparatively quiet, there were minor violent incidents. Gunmen fired on a church in Port Said at the mouth of the Suez Canal overnight. Two people were wounded.

Egypt showered with Gulf billions in show of support for army - Alarabiya.net English | Front Page



@BLACK EAGLE dear

you show a bit of ignorance about this funding.


$8 billion was already in the pipeline, being negotiated between GCC and Morsi.

This money would have gone to Egypt even if Morsi was in power.


And thus it is unfair to the GCC to say they "shower" and "support" army.

The reality is that GCC is supporting Egyptian people and their government.



Why we should always look for constipated conspiracy theories. I do not know.

but I was hoping that a sensible person like you would at least add a bit to the news and not post it bit by bit.



peace
 
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When would those US drones start flying over our heads? :smokin: I hope we don't wait for long. :azn:

Okay back to reality, your spiritual country, Iran is the sanctioned one not Saudi Arabia, Iran is the terror state not Saudi Arabia.

Your crying confirms that what Saudis have been doing is working:chilli: pretty well. Enjoy..


No....You are good guy, I am saying US Predator drones should destroy bad people who are involved in terrorists activities in Middle East crisis, the virus is still growing there. Iran and Saudi Arabia are both coward and fighting over little toys, I am not sided with Iran nor Saudis. You should admit it what Arab complexity went wrong.
 
Let's spade a spade, our catastrophic fault - Saudi + Pakistan - was due to miscalculations and concerns over what would the Soviet do next.

Pakistan's very existence was threatened back in the day, and KSA + Pakistan acted out unilaterally, Yes, that was long before Carter's $200 million for the so-called Mujahideen.
No....You are good guy, I am saying US Predator drones should destroy bad people who are involved in terrorists activities in Middle East crisis, the virus is still growing there. Iran and Saudi Arabia are both coward and fighting over little toys, I am not sided with Iran nor Saudis. You should admit it what Arab complexity went wrong.

Don't ask me if I regret it or not, because I wouldn't regret a thing that had lead to the withdrawal of the Soviet from Afghanistan.
 
Maybe you aren't emotional or have affection to one side over the other, but at the end of the day, I wish that Pakistan stay out from the ME as much as possible as it needs to concentrate on itself.
I am not sided with Iran nor Saudis
 
We are Muslims, Sunni Muslims

I dont care.

The point here is of a principle. Morsi was an elected president. He was a constitutional president. Therefore, toppling him was wrong this will make MB even more stronger.

They should have been allowed to fail.

First you extend a helping hand in creating notorious organizations and then back off.

Please, let egypt evolve.

It seems that some Powerful Arab states do not want democracy within their regions.

Sad.
 
My friend, you can't give a %100 democracy to a nation that lived under tough leaders for more than a half century
I dont care.

The point here is of a principle. Morsi was an elected president. He was a constitutional president. Therefore, toppling him was wrong this will make MB even more stronger.

They should have been allowed to fail.

First you extend a helping hand in creating notorious organizations and then back off.

Please, let egypt evolve.

It seems that some Powerful Arab states do not want democracy within their regions.

Sad.
 
Let's spade a spade, our catastrophic fault - Saudi + Pakistan - was due to miscalculations and concerns over what would the Soviet do next.

Pakistan's very existence was threatened back in the day, and KSA + Pakistan acted out unilaterally, Yes, that was long before Carter's $200 million for the so-called Mujahideen.


Don't ask me if I regret it or not, because I wouldn't regret a thing that had lead to the withdrawal of the Soviet from Afghanistan.

This Soviet war was short-time affected, it was gone but today Pakistan has faced long-term battles and has not finished some businees, what will Saudi do? Nothing but they live in heaven themselves and now mocking at another neighbours.


Maybe you aren't emotional or have affection to one side over the other, but at the end of the day, I wish that Pakistan stay out from the ME as much as possible as it needs to concentrate on itself.

So you say I approve only Saudi to be involved in Syria, Iran, Bahrain, Libya, Egypt, while Pakistan stay out of Middle East crisis, right?
 
This Soviet war was short-time affected, it was gone but today Pakistan has faced long-term battles and has not finished some businees, what will Saudi do? Nothing but they live in heaven themselves and now mocking at another neighbours.


1- The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan has never been looked upon as a short-term effect, remember that the ousting of Zulfikar Bhutto was one of the main reasons encouraged the USSR to invade Afghanistan, therefore, Pakistan's existence was under threat. If there were no coup in Pakistan, then the USSR could never have thought to invade Afghanistan, Bhutto's legend is well-known to the Soviet.

2- KSA DID suffer from the radical elements among Al-Qaida ranks and the " Arab " Afghan terrorist scums. We lost tens of SAUDI people who lived here in KSA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjJwI1ApADQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozyi7Ieu5y8

3- KSA never mocked anyone, and I don't appreciate say such thing.

4- I never said YOU shouldn't get involve in the politics of the ME, I was talking about :pakistan:

This Soviet war was short-time affected, it was gone but today Pakistan has faced long-term battles and has not finished some businees, what will Saudi do? Nothing but they live in heaven themselves and now mocking at another neighbours.

So you say I approve only Saudi to be involved in Syria, Iran, Bahrain, Libya, Egypt, while Pakistan stay out of Middle East crisis, right?
 
My friend, you can't give a %100 democracy to a nation that lived under tough leaders for more than a half century

I have read a few of your comments before and I was largely impressed with your sagacious views, but this statement is a disappointment.

Its your opinion and your right, but I totally disagree.
 
Thank you Sir. I take your word as a badge of honor.
I have read a few of your comments before and I was largely impressed with your sagacious views,

No, the statement that I made was a back up to yours. If the Egyptians people took Morsi for what he was - The first democratically elected President - then the Egyptian people will stick to their democratic values, however, what you and I saw foiled the democratic values. In short, people can't take the democratic values for granted, but democracy takes patience and time.
but this statement is a disappointment. Its your opinion and your right, but I totally disagree.
 
Thank you Sir. I take your word as a badge of honor.


No, the statement that I made was a back up to yours. If the Egyptians people took Morsi for what he was - The first democratically elected President - then the Egyptian people will stick to their democratic values, however, what you and I saw foiled the democratic values. In short, people can't take the democratic values for granted, but democracy takes patience and time.


There are many kind of democratic systems, and each one of them have goods and bads.

Democratic systems start from one point and then evolve based on the traditions, hopes and dreams.


And thus, there are a lot of bad democratic systems around.

so one has to be careful not to get stuck with a bad one.


If you got a bad apple, that looked good at the outset, but you see it filled with worms when you make your first cut,

one has to be damn fool to continue eating this bad apple.


Same way, Morsi, or pretty much any religious despot pretending to be a democrat (such as Khomeni), should not be given more than a year to be the ruler.

Such a despot will soon lead the whole nation to death and destruction.

Egypt seems to be heading in the right direction.

There may be 3 or even 4 such quick changes before Egyptians find a version of democratic system suitable for them.


However Egyptians must realize that most successful democratic systems happen to be secular, and mercantile in nature.


Happy Ramadan to all.

peace
 
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