Egypt has placed order for Su-35s

[The SC]

That requires you to buy a whole lot of everything, in a whole lot of numbers. Common sense says it's not the best way to go. But whatever.

Common sense is when you have the capability to operate and maintain both Eastern and Western Systems without any difficulty.. like Egypt does..India is a bad example I might agree.. but Egypt has been a vrery good example for safety and integration of many different systems..But hey I can understand your confusion.. it was intended for Egyptian adversaries and it works well apparently even on friends..

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Common sense is when you have the capability to operate and maintain both Eastern and Western Systems without any difficulty.. like Egypt does..India is a bad example I might agree.. but Egypt has been a vrery good example for safety and integration of many different systems..But hey I can understand your confusion.. it was intended for Egyptian adversaries and it works well apparently even on friends..

Not the point I was trying to make, but fair I guess. Read my other post

 

[The SC]

I agree but have you noticed the trend of acquiring weapons from different suppliers ? Secondly, Egypt's economy has been stronger than Pakistan's, and an enemy (Israel) same as Pakistan's, but the enemy was turned into a friend (1979), and the enemy possesses nuclear weapons, so as per your statement, has Egypt acquired nuclear weapons to be prepared for war the next day since nothing is guaranteed? If yes, excellent, if not , why not ?

Most recent presidents of Egypt declared in interviews that they have the right deterrents against the Usraeli nukes..but they won't expand on that.. Just leave it at that..

 

[Philip the Arab]

He did a while ago. Just check the forum replies from a page or two ago. I messed up the quote though my bad.

 

[Abdelrahman]

Even if we had offered them JF-17 for free, they wouldn't have taken it. Sometimes prestige issues overtake your rational decisions.

We have no problem to benefit from any top-notch technology. We only care about our strength not our prestige and only try to get the best as we can. Your officials should take the advantage of what happened recently with India to make a global marketing strategy for the JF-17.

 

[Philip the Arab]

We have no problem to benefit from any top-notch technology. We only care about our strength not our prestige and only try to get the best as we can. Your officials should take the advantage of what happened recently with India to make a global marketing strategy for the JF-17.

I have never seen you before on this forum. Will you be more active on the forum or is this just because of the Su-35 deal?

 

[The SC]

We should offer them jf-17, al-khalid and etc. If they are on a shoppingspree, we shouldn't judge but make profit.

First things first.. Egypt can not counter regional powers with The Al Khalid tanks and the JF-17.. they need the best they can get.. because the potential opponents are armed to the teeth and with the most advanced and capable systems out there.. hope you understand now..

 

[hussain0216]

Dumb acquisitions!!!

They on paper seem good

But in reality dum, real dum

 

[HttpError]

We have no problem to benefit from any top-notch technology. We only care about our strength not our prestige and only try to get the best as we can. Your officials should take the advantage of what happened recently with India to make a global marketing strategy for the JF-17.

I am not talking about any specific group, I am talking about things in general. As you may have noticed, everyone considers western technology to be top-notch. Although this may be true in most cases, this is not always the case. So yeah, perception does matter and as you said, Pakistan should try to enhance its reputation by using the recent events with India to its own advantage.

 

[Ceylal]

Well China doesn't give a crap about who they sell to for sure. They will be the same specs that China uses.

Even Chinese have their own rules and Israel is one of their suppliers of the new technologies..

if there was gold, they have already sold it man.

If it was gold, the Chinese would have kept it..

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Stick to the topic please. This thread isn’t a discussion on whether the Arab militaries are competent or not and not a discussion on whether the Pakistanis or Arabs like each other, care about each other or talk about each other.

 

[Amun]

which money ?
the EU gave only $1,8 billion for Syrian refugees in Turkey , nothing else
on the other hand Turkey spent $35+ billion for over 3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey
and We Turks always helped muslims in history , millions of Albanians,Bosnians,Circassians ,Arabs,Kurds,etc came to Anatolia in the last 120 years to protect themselves being slaughtered by Christians and others

,, because of they are our brothers and sisters.




they lives like animals in Egypt

on the other hand Syrian refugees lives like human in Turkey , free education , free health care also Turkish government gives money to Syrian refugees for food , clothing, shelter and firewood




Egyptian Army can not accomplish fighting against ISIS in Sinai
all those weapons to protect puppet dictators against Egyptian People and against Turkey for American-Israeli interests

our ancestors reached Egypt before Anadol

-- The Tulunids were a dynasty of Turkic origin and were the first independent dynasty to rule Egypt as well as much of Syria in 868
-- also Turkic Burid and Zengid dynasties ruled Syria between 1100 and 1250
-- also Turkic Bahri dynasty ruled Egypt between 1250 and 1389 ( the Mamluk Sultanate was dominated by the Kipchak Turkic Bahri dynasty )
-- also after 1517 Ottoman Empire ruled all Middle East including Egypt for 400 years

First of all....Our Syrian,Iraqi,Libyan,Sudanian brothers are not animals.....every human being is welcomed in Egypt...
You can see Syrians working,having fun and marrying in Egypt....ISIS in Sinai nearly removed...only some of them still coming from Syria via Turkey but we will eradicate them all....unlike your PKK you can’t even get into their territories.

BTW are you still occupying lands from your Muslim neighbors (Syria and Iraq)...?!

Or you still supplying terrorists in Libya with weapons....!?
Or TV Chanels that supports ISIS in Sinai still working..?!

As for History.....I’m taking about 5000 Years ago.....and you say 1000 year ago.
I’m talking about protecting our land and you are talking about invading Egypt....
I’m talking about a country that have been in War with Israel 4 times and you are talking about Turkey (NATO Member) That have a strong relations with Israel that allows Israel to modernize Turkish weapons and allowing Israel to fly over the Turkish soil to practice against whom do you think !?
Yes against Egypt..,..the only Muslim Country that can harm Israel....but it’s our call not yours.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

First things first.. Egypt can not counter regional powers with The Al Khalid tanks and the JF-17.. they need the best they can get.. because the potential opponents are armed to the teeth and with the most advanced and capable systems out there.. hope you understand now..

Not what I also met, i was talking abt transfer of technology and joint ventures with countries.

 

[Kompromat]

And the US would approve such a sale?
Not sure that Egypt has total freedom here.

We purchased some from Jordan with the US approval. More are in the pipeline.

 

[Signalian]

First things first.. Egypt can not counter regional powers with The Al Khalid tanks and the JF-17.. they need the best they can get.. because the potential opponents are armed to the teeth and with the most advanced and capable systems out there.. hope you understand now..

Hold on...Didn't Egypt have the best weapons/equipment back in 50's, 60's and 70's and still lost at a number of occasions? Now ofcourse there could be a AK Vs Merkava thread or JF-17 Vs F-16I Sufa thread, but maybe its not the weapons which are the only factor amounting to winning a war.

Looking at those purchases all I can think is what a logistical nightmare...

Have you noticed that operating different kinds of weapon systems having almost similar capabilities is the new trend in Arab countries ?

F-15, EFT, Rafale - Qatar Air Force
F-18 E/F, EFT- Kuwaiti AF
F-15 S/SA, EFT - RSAF

Its not just Western and eastern equipment, there is a variety in western equipment by itself also.