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The number of people who protested aginst Morsi indicates one thing for sure, that it was a genuine uprising.
KSA is not a fan club of MB but saying KSA can influence Egypt army and all these people in streets
that's just so bullshit
conspiracy theories have long life ;)
 
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The number of people who protested aginst Morsi indicates one thing for sure, that it was a genuine uprising.

And the number of ppl protesting for MB? Only a blind will chose not to see it? And 100ss killed by the army!? 53 alone in fahar prayers?

Liber scumbags
 
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Islam is a religion. it is private . it is communauty. it is not a nation, it is not a politic to serve one group of person or give power to such group or sect.

and this has nothing to do with West . period.

Islam is not only a religion but also a way of life. Life where teaching on personal, social and even national issues has been given. As for term "political Islam" is western invention to label Islam in bad light. It is your choice if you want to fall for it or learn to make better understanding.
 
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And the number of ppl protesting for MB? Only a blind will chose not to see it? And 100ss killed by the army!? 53 alone in fahar prayers?

Liber scumbags

The anti-Morsi protests are greater than those who support him. I'm not going to get into a flaming war with someone like yourself.
 
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Israel urged U.S. not to halt aid to Egypt, says top American official

During intensive Washington-Jerusalem coordination talks, Israeli leadership warned U.S. officials military aid cut to Egypt would likely impact negatively on Israel’s security.

Israel urged U.S. not to halt aid to Egypt, says top American official - Diplomacy & Defense - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

White House: no immediate cut in U.S. aid to Egypt

U.S. law restricts providing aid in instances of a military coup and some in Congress, including Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, already have called for halting the more than $1 billion a year currently given to Egypt.

However, Carney made clear that no hasty decision would be made.

"It would not be in the best interests of the United States to immediately change our assistance programs" to Egypt, he said.

When asked multiple times if the Egyptian military's move was a coup, Carney stubbornly repeated a lengthy response that essentially said the United States would determine how to proceed at its own pace, based on what's best for its interests and the goal of promoting democratic governance in Egypt.

White House: no immediate cut in U.S. aid to Egypt - CNN.com
 
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Like @Ceylal said in his post, KSA govt. is ok with it (out of concern for stability of Egypt) and most likely was not involved in ousting Morsi. Morsi was ousted mainly because of internal political dynamics, where the Army stepped in to preserve stability of the country, whereas Morsi's mistakes were pushing the country towards instability.

In my personal opinion, this coup was a mistake by the Army, but it is hard for us outsiders to know and judge. It is best if we ask more questions, listen and learn from people of surrounding countries who know much more than passing quick judgement.

Al Nour party (Salafi leaning) is a player that is loosely allied with MB and I am sure this party also has close relation with KSA. After yesterdays Army shooting and killing of pro-Morsi protesters, Al Nour withdrew support from the new road map by Al Sissi.

There is no "quick judgement" on my part, unless you are just talking about yourself. house of Sauds are "ok" as you termed their involvement, is pure assassination of facts on the ground. House of Saud were with western masters to orchestrated unrest. There are many reports and a well known facts house of Saud is afraid of MB and had been instigating from behind the scene to unseat MB. Saudi interference in Egypt was not new; house of Saud was not able to forget their man, Mubarak demise.

Gulf States Buy Egyptian Riots

Washington has evidence that as much as a billion dollars has been clandestinely introduced into Egypt since the June presidential election. The money has gone to some organizers of the riots taking place, including junior Army officers in mufti, to force the regime to react with excessive force and lose what little legitimacy it retains—which is precisely what has happened. A fatally weakened Morsi government might well have to accept a new regime of national unity that would include the military, which would become the dominant force in the arrangement without having to risk the opprobrium involved in actually forming a government. The primary objective of the new alignment would be to restore order, further enhancing the military’s status. On January 29, the Egyptian Army’s commanding general, Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, not surprisingly suggested that the army might have to intervene if the civilian government proves incapable of suppressing the rioting.

So who is behind the unrest? The money fueling the confrontation comes from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States, none of which are enamored of the Muslim Brotherhood or Morsi. They fear that the untidy democracy, such as it is, in Egypt and elsewhere amid the Arab Spring could spill over to their states, and they desire a return to something like the military-backed regime of Mubarak, which was politically reliable and dedicated to suppressing political extremism and even dissent in all forms. A government of national unity, backed by the army, that would give lip service to democratic institutions would be just fine.

Gulf States Buy Egyptian Riots | The American Conservative


Al Nour is a salafist party had no good relation with MB. In fact Al Nour created because they did not want to join MB. As salafist they have traditional link back to house of Saud and their credit line. Al Nour back tracking from supporting coup has two main reasons:
1) ElBaradei's liberal and secular profile goes against their kind of principal. Besides, having ElBaradei may trigger another election soon which will result bringing MB back into power.

2) overwhelming MB response against coup was not expected. Even behind the scene orchestrators are for saving their skin from crime of massacre and unknown fallout. And so is Al Nour switching tone quickly.
 
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There is no "quick judgement" on my part, unless you are just talking about yourself. house of Sauds are "ok" as you termed their involvement, is pure assassination of facts on the ground. House of Saud were with western masters to orchestrated unrest. There are many reports and a well known facts house of Saud is afraid of MB and had been instigating from behind the scene to unseat MB. Saudi interference in Egypt was not new; house of Saud was not able to forget their man, Mubarak demise.

Al Nour is a salafist party had no good relation with MB. In fact Al Nour created because they did not want to join MB. As salafist they have traditional link back to house of Saud and their credit line. Al Nour back tracking from supporting coup has two main reasons:
1) ElBaradei's liberal and secular profile goes against their kind of principal. Besides, having ElBaradei may trigger another election soon which will result bringing MB back into power.

2) overwhelming MB response against coup was not expected. Even behind the scene orchestrators are for saving their skin from crime of massacre and unknown fallout. And so is Al Nour switching tone quickly.

Well, many people will claim many things, does not mean they are true. Even Ceylal, the Algerian who is fanatically anti-Arab and Gulf Monarchs, would not endorse your conspiracy theory.

At least you should agree with Ceylal whose support for butcher Assad and the Shia gang is equal to yours.
 
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Well, many people will claim many things, does not mean they are true. Even Ceylal, the Algerian who is fanatically anti-Arab and Gulf Monarchs, would not endorse your conspiracy theory.

At least you should agree with Ceylal whose support for butcher Assad and the Shia gang is equal to yours.

Oh don't say, only your "conspiracy theory" label get's it way over facts and reputable analysis. We have seen that many times already.:no: Time to move on with topic than your isolated out of touch opinion.
 
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Oh don't say, only your "conspiracy theory" label get's it way over facts and reputable analysis. We have seen that many times already.:no: Time to move on with topic than your isolated out of touch opinion.

Bangladesh is not a Shia country, so I suggest you move to Iran, if you are going to sing for the Mullah's of Iran.
 
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Bangladesh is not a Shia country, so I suggest you move to Iran, if you are going to sing for the Mullah's of Iran.

I see Muslims should live in unity and prosper be they are Sunni or Shia. Like you, I don't crave for Shia-Sunni divide and call for Shia's blood. You suggestion sounds more like Awami League asking anyone who oppose its misrule to go Pakistan. I thought your thinking and argument would be more mature but I was wrong. Enough said on offtopic...back to the Egypt
 
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It is funny that some brain dead people are calling for Shia Sunni unity after what the Iran Mullah's did in Iraq and now in Syria, killing hundreds of thousands of Sunni's. Now KSA support for Morsi toppling is a weak point for KSA, so Iran Mullah's get a chance to hit at KSA, and Shia supporters in our own country come out doing the same taking the cue. These people do not represent Bangladesh, a country with 50,000 shia among 150 million Sunni Muslims.

What is funny is that even Morsi and Muslim Brother hood in Egypt just a month ago came out firmly against Assad and his Iran Mullah supporters, breaking with his earlier overtures with Iran. Eventually they also saw the light. Shia's and their Taqiya are not to be trusted. Only the naive will get fooled after what happened in Iraq and Syria under sponsorship of Iran.

Shia's have their own sordid history in South Asia. Yahya Khan was a Qizilbash Shia for example, who killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims and Hindu's in 1971 war.
 
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