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I dont know their constitution.
If economy recovers then I think the problems will be solved.

Actually economical hardships are the key reason for political and civil unrest in virtually every country on the earth. Aside from basic services, security, some levels of freedom etc.

Egypt needs to find their foothold and the political parties and the military need to understand their roles in the society. Most importantly all the Egyptian political parties need to understand that they should work for the best of Egypt and its people rather than only their own interests. This is a typical thing in the Arab world. Politicians and parties want to be dictators on their own and cannot compromise nearly.

Ḥashshāshīn

Where are you from if I may ask? Central African Republic but living in Kenya? Quite interesting. I assume that you are a Ismaili too. Makes it even more "interesting".
 
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Military just overturned the will of the people. Only the people of Egypt should have the option of replacing Morsi
They did (And I'm pretty sure the Egyptian Army is manned by Egyptians too)
 
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This all started with that one Tunisian street vendor who set himself on fire (God rest his soul) after we had the Arab Spring, Bahrain, Syria and Egypt is going round and round in circles when will all this end?? is this the start of the end times? the Kaliyuga and the likes?
 
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Actually economical hardships are the key reason for political and civil unrest in virtually every country on the earth. Aside from basic services, security, some levels of freedom etc.

Egypt needs to find their foothold and the political parties and the military need to understand their roles in the society. Most importantly all the Egyptian political parties need to understand that they should work for the best of Egypt and its people rather than only their own interests. This is a typical thing in the Arab world. Politicians and parties want to be dictators on their own and cannot compromise nearly.

Ḥashshāshīn

Where are you from if I may ask? Central African Republic but living in Kenya? Quite interesting. I assume that you are a Ismaili too. Makes it even more "interesting".

Yes, only Morsi to me seems like Saddam for some part.
Trying to use a powerfull country for his own ideas.

I mean the speech of "us" marching towards al quds and making it our capital where Morsi was sitting on a seat with a smile already says enough.
 
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btw, offtopic, did you see Iraq-Paraguay u20 today ? we continue to the quarter finals of the world cup u20:victory:
 
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Yes, only Morsi to me seems like Saddam for some part.
Trying to use a powerfull country for his own ideas.

I mean the speech of "us" marching towards al quds and making it our capital where Morsi was sitting on a seat with a smile already says enough.

Actually this is a quite common trait among Arab rulers/leaders and Middle Eastern rulers in general. It is even worse in Africa. Much worse actually. The worst example is North Korea. Just a absolutely sick society.

Ah, I don't think that Morsi can be compared to any past leader to be honest with you. MB was just not ready to rule Egypt and Egypt is going through a lot of problems especially financial ones which would make it difficult for every leader. The Egyptian people are divided on many fronts which will cause problems if they don't find a consensus. Some of his actions were idiotic though and did not make life easier for him. Overall he was not a success.

Though when reading about Morsi then he seems to be one of the more educated leaders in the Middle East:
Morsi was born in the Sharqia Governorate, in northern Egypt, of modest provincial origin, in the village of El-Adwah, north of Cairo, on 8 August 1951.[14] His father was a farmer and his mother a housewife.[14] He is the eldest of five brothers, and told journalists that he remembers being taken to school on the back of a donkey.[15] He earned a bachelor's and master's degree in engineering from Cairo University in 1975 and 1978, respectively. He then earned his Ph.D. in materials science from the University of Southern California in the U.S. in 1982 with his dissertation High-Temperature Electrical Conductivity and Defect Structure of Donor-Doped Al2O3.[16][17] He was an Assistant Professor at California State University, Northridge, from 1982 to 1985. In 1985, he returned to Egypt and began to serve as the head of the engineering department at Zagazig University, where he was a professor until 2010.
Morsi is married to his cousin, Naglaa Ali Mahmoud.[130] She reportedly stated that she does not want to be referred to "First Lady" but rather "First Servant [of the Egyptian public]."[131]
Morsi has five children:[132] Ahmed Mohammed Morsi, who is a physician in Saudi Arabia; Shaima, a graduate of Zagazig University; Osama, an attorney; Omar has a bachelor in commerce from Zagazig University; and Abdullah, high school student.[133] Two of Morsi's five children were born in California and are U.S. citizens by birth.[134] Morsi has three grandchildren.[133] His third son, Omar, was appointed to the Holding Company for Airports, a state-owned company, six months after his graduation.[135] However, he declined the job offer due to many rumors and attacks in the media and press.[136][137]
This is no Gaddafi and the likes of him.
 
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UMM no there wasn't.He asked the US government if he should declare martial law during the Caretaker government and he was refused!

dude the caretaker govt was it self installed by the Military, it was a Military backed technocratic set up where the Army had arrested the two main political leaders ,emergency imposed, Tanks & Armoured vehicles on the streets with troops patrolling & Army doing accountability of politicians & business men & seizing their BMW cars

Lt. Gen. Moeen was the key force behind the declaration of emergency in the country on 11 January 2007 widely known as 1/11 phenomenon.[6] He upgraded his rank from Lt. General to General during his illegal tenure when there was no regular government; the caretaker government is not mandated to work other than routine work and managing parliamentary elections. He also extended his tenure of army chief, which is fixed for a time period, for one year in same way.[7] He has been accused of playing a controversial role by helping the caretaker government of Bangladesh to retain power after constitution stipulated three months' duration. Although never publicly admitted, he has been identified as the main driving force behind the non-elected government but he has also been praised for arranging voter ID cards before 29 December 2008. He and the government has been accused domestically and globally to de-politicise the country. Hundreds of political figures, including two ex-prime ministers, ministers, lawmakers and local government heads, have been imprisoned by the regime accusing them of

corruption.Moeen U Ahmed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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All the more reasons why Morsi should have focused on the economy. People are the same the world over when it comes to the economy. At the ground level in any country larger or smaller than its neighbors, businesses understand -- INSTINCTIVELY -- that the larger economy they are under cannot be steered like a race car but more like sailboat or a yacht or in the case of the US, an ark of a vessel. Slow and ponderous, but still visibly changing course. That is what people expect -- visibility. If there are problems along the changing of direction, people will understand and there will be defenders of the current polices as well as oppositions. Oppositions to economic policies would have been nowhere as vocal or revolutionary as what we are seeing today. Do not underestimate the patience and generosity of business people.

But instead of doing what is OBVIOUSLY necessary, Morsi acted the way any hardcore Islamist would -- placate the theocrats. Egypt be damned.

Morsi has done many things that if obama ever have done would have been impeached by the american congress .

1) Morsi mobs sieged egypt constitutional court for 4 weeks to force them to take a court ruling meeting their agenda
2) Morsi mobs attacked and terrorized minorities and other muslims for carrying a different political belief .
3) Morsi created a constitution without a national consensus that only met his party interests and used bribery and terrorism during voting date to pass his racist constitution which would have turned Egypt into another afghanistan
4) Morsi decided to appoint one of his allies as Egypt highest prosecutor so that he could use him in detaining all his political opponents and one example was Bassem yousef who was arrested more than once for criticizing morsi policies.
5) Morsi mobs wanted to reduce legal marriage age in Egypt from 18 to 10 years.
6) Morsi appointed an Egyptian terrorist as the governor of assiyut , a person who killed 122 foreign tourists in Egypt during the 1990s .
7) Morsi one sided policies ruined the Egyptian economy and made foreign investors and tourists escape egypt for good.

I can keep going on and on but I am sure if the USA had a clown president like morsi he would not even survive a day in office.

This all started with that one Tunisian street vendor who set himself on fire (God rest his soul) after we had the Arab Spring, Bahrain, Syria and Egypt is going round and round in circles when will all this end?? is this the start of the end times? the Kaliyuga and the likes?

Political Islam is coming to an end in Egypt .



Dont spam this page with Iran conflicts with USA , most of the Americans were against morsi including the congress , Obama has his own flawed foreign policy that neither the US Army or congress agree with.

Egyptians are fighting for a free country and not a rogue state .
 
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dude the caretaker govt was it self installed by the Military, it was a Military backed technocratic set up where the Army had arrested the two main political leaders ,emergency imposed, Tanks & Armoured vehicles on the streets with troops patrolling & Army doing accountability of politicians & business men & seizing their BMW cars

UMM no......the caretaker government is an interim government which required by our constitution for holding fare elections.It is always a technocrat government.The political leaders were not arrested by the military.They were arrested because charges of corruption were pressed by the ACC(which already existed and not founded by the military) which was out of military influence and had no military in its governing body.Those who paid taxes for their cars were not harrased.Those who didn't were asked to and if they didn't were arrested.Seems pretty fare and legal and non-coup like to me!
 
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I'm so glad and relieved Pakistan did not fall in this trap of fake revolution. As bad and as corrupt the PPP govt was, I'm glad it was allowed to complete its term which set a huge presidence in the country.

If people don't like Pmln either, throw him out in few years but don't play dirty and bloody politics with military coups. These morons in Egypt don't known what they have done. Chanting and dancing like idiots while their country slips into chaos.
 
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