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What did the M.B do they barely had a few months of rule and were opposed at every turn by a brutal corrupt and self serving miliatary and state apparatus.

The biggest check and balance in any society is an EFFECTIVE opposition, this opposition instead of uniting and planning for the next election aided a brutal military in overthrowing a legitimate and elected regime..


The Taliban, the TTP, Al Qaeda now these are hard core. Bombs, suicde attacks, car bombs, special teams they would have car bombed Tahire square a thousand times by now

The Muslim brotherhood have done NOTHING


If democracy and elections are worthless then what is the alternative
One example, if with in the first couple of months you try to dissolve the judiciary, and pass a decree stating you have NO checks on your power....you may be a dictator.....(even Hitler waited longer to pass the enabling act) The violence now is bad....but if the MB hadn't gone hog-wild and been more insidious....like the Islamist in Turkey....they would have had their sharia hell-hole in no time.
 
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Spare me the history lesson,muslims conquered,raped to,in fact my own country was opressed by a muslim power for over 400 years.That is the past ,we are talking about now...how would you like it if the brits torched mosques in retaliation?.....now another fact for you ,the MB members gunned down are beeing punished by Divine intervention for desecrating Holy places.

Burn a church--swift ticket to hell ! bye bye.

Britain partook in a false war of aggression against Iraq, thousands of muslims were killed and many mosques were destroyed,

Muslims and mosques are attacked in Burma, and India, in egypt mosqueshave been destroyed just yesterday, no one cares about them why should anyone care about the churches.


The vast majority of the people being attacked or killed are just innocent people protesting against a military coup and over throw of an elected regime by a brutal military, how are they guilty of anything.



Here is a fact for you, innocent muslims are butchered and killed across the world by liberal forces, democracy and elections are thrown out the window when muslims win, and human rights and laws are trampled when muslims are arrested and tortured.

What is the point in partaking in any election, obeying any law or being mercifull to any one let alone any minority
 
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Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah says the kingdom supports Egypt in the fight against terrorism

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In reality he supports the killing of muslims...
 
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One example, if with in the first couple of months you try to dissolve the judiciary, and pass a decree stating you have NO checks on your power....you may be a dictator.....(even Hitler waited longer to pass the enabling act)

The judiciary was a mubarak era institution who along with the military and liberals refused to allow the muslim brotherhood to govern or achive anything

Both the judicary and military need COMPLETE overhaul in order for democracy to flourish
 
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Britain partook in a false war of aggression against Iraq, thousands of muslims were killed and many mosques were destroyed,

Muslims and mosques are attacked in Burma, and India, in egypt mosqueshave been destroyed just yesterday, no one cares about them why should anyone care about the churches.


The vast majority of the people being attacked or killed are just innocent people protesting against a military coup and over throw of an elected regime by a brutal military, how are they guilty of anything.



Here is a fact for you, innocent muslims are butchered and killed across the world by liberal forces, democracy and elections are thrown out the window when muslims win, and human rights and laws are trampled when muslims are arrested and tortured.

What is the point in partaking in any election, obeying any law or being mercifull to any one let alone any minority
It was no false war....it was very real. And as you guys support burning churches...we obviously didn't kill enough....
 
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Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah says the kingdom supports Egypt in the fight against terrorism

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لا حول و لا قوة الا بالله حسبنا الله و نعم الوكيل
 
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The judiciary was a mubarak era institution who along with the military and liberals refused to allow the muslim brotherhood to govern or achive anything

Both the judicary and military need COMPLETE overhaul in order for democracy to flourish
All Hitler's enemies supported Communist and Weimar reactionaries....so off to the gas chambers....
 
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I see,your entire faith thinks that if you draw a picture of the Prophet you'll burn in hell and you will suffer but somehow in your mind you find it amusing if someone thinks that God will punish someone who torches Holy churches to the ground in an act of mindless barbarity.Well,laugh away thinking in your infailible religious superiority.

Britain partook in a false war of aggression against Iraq, thousands of muslims were killed and many mosques were destroyed,

Muslims and mosques are attacked in Burma, and India, in egypt mosqueshave been destroyed just yesterday, no one cares about them why should anyone care about the churches.

I don't give 2 cents on what has Britain done,Britain is not the copts who are scratching a precarious living in Egypt without having to suffer their churches burned down by savagers.
And,btw,i do apply the same rule for mosques to.in my book mosques are places of worship,places of God,whoever defiles is bound for hell,just like in the cases of churches.No difference,a house of God is a house of God it should not be burned or desecrated.

Those who burn mosques in Burma,India or wherever will be punished,if not in this life then in the next one.;)
 
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It was no false war....it was very real. And as you guys support burning churches...we obviously didn't kill enough....

No it was a false and decitefull war based on lies..... this is why people are looking at these things and thinking why shouyld muslims be mercifull to minorities when no one else is
 
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Cairo: Protests by supporters of ousted Islamist President Mohammad Mursi turned violent across Egypt on Friday, with witnesses reporting four dead in central Cairo and at least 12 killed in northern cities as the Muslim Brotherhood staged a “Day of Rage”.
The army deployed dozens of armoured vehicles on major roads around the capital after Mursi’s Brotherhood movement called the demonstrations, and the Interior Ministry said police would use live ammunition against anyone threatening public buildings.
The violence followed Wednesday’s assault by security forces on two Brotherhood sit-ins in Cairo that left hundreds dead, as security forces tried to end weeks of turbulence following the army’s toppling of Mursi on July 3.
In Cairo gunshots echoed around the huge Ramses Square, focal point of Brotherhood protests in the capital, and police fired salvoes of tear gas. Four people were killed and many more wounded by gunshot and birdshot in the square, a witness said.
Nile TV showed footage of one gunman among Islamist protesters firing from a city centre bridge. Injured men, one with a bloody wound in the middle of his chest, were rushed away on the back of a pick-up truck.
Emergency services also said eight protesters were killed in clashes in the Mediterranean town of Damietta, and four people died in the northeastern city of Esmailia. Violence was also reported in Egypt’s second city Alexandria and in the Nile Delta city of Tanta.
A police conscript was killed in a drive-by shooting in the north of the capital, state news agency Mena reported.
Deeply polarised after months of political turmoil, Egypt stands close to the abyss of chaos with Islamist supporters refusing to accept the toppling of Mursi, which followed mammoth rallies castigating his trouble-plagued, year-long rule.
They have demanded the resignation of army commander General Abdul Fattah Al Sisi and the reinstatement of Egypt’s first freely elected president, who is in detention and has not been seen in public since his downfall.

“Sooner or later I will die. Better to die for my rights than in my bed. Guns don’t scare us anymore,” said Sara Ahmad, 28, a business manager, joining a march of thousands of demonstrators heading downtown from northeast Cairo.
“It’s not about the Brotherhood, it’s about human rights,” said Ahmed, one of the few women not wearing a headscarf, a sign of piety for Muslim women.
When a military helicopter flew low over Ramses Square, protesters held up shoes chanting “We will bring [Al] Sisi to the ground” and “Leave, leave, you traitor.” As the sound of teargas canisters being fired began, protesters - including young and old, men and women - donned surgical masks, gas masks and wrapped bandannas around their faces. Some rubbed Pepsi on their faces to counter the gas.
“Allahu akbar! [God is Greatest]” the crowd chanted.
WASHINGTON DISPLEASURE
Signalling his displeasure at the worst bloodshed in Egypt for generations, US President Barack Obama said on Thursday normal cooperation with Cairo could not continue and announced the cancellation of military exercises with Egypt next month.
“We deplore violence against civilians. We support universal rights essential to human dignity, including the right to peaceful protest,” he said, but stopped short of cutting off the $1.55 billion a year of mostly military US aid to Egypt.
The Brotherhood accuses the military of staging a coup when it ousted Mursi. Liberal and youth activists who backed the military saw the move as a positive response to public demands.
But some fear Egypt is turning back into the kind of police state that kept the disgraced Hosni Mubarak in power for 30 years before his removal in 2011, as security institutions recover their confidence and reassert control.
Friday prayers have proved a fertile time for protests during more than two years of unrest across the Arab world.
In calling for a “Day of Rage,” the Brotherhood used the same name as that given to the most violent day of the uprising against Mubarak. That day, January 28, 2011, marked the protesters’ victory over the police, who were forced to retreat.
Ironically, the epicentre of the anti-Mubarak protests, Tahrir Square, was deserted on Friday, sealed off by the army.
Underscoring the deep divisions in the most populous Arab/sstate, local residents helped the army block access to Cairo’s Rabaa Al Adawiya mosque, the site of the main Brotherhood sit-in that was swept away during Wednesday’s police assault.
“We are here to prevent those ****** bastards from coming back,” said Mohammad Ali, a 22-year-old business student.
The Egyptian presidency issued a statement criticising Obama, saying his comments were not based on “facts” and would strengthen violent groups that were committing “terrorist acts”.
Pro-army groups posted videos on the Internet of policemen they said had been tortured and killed by Islamist militants.
Washington’s influence over Cairo has been called into question since Mursi’s overthrow. Since then Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE have pledged $12 billion in assistance, making them more prominent partners.
Obama’s refusal so far to cut off US aid to Egypt suggests he does not wish to alienate the generals despite the scale of the bloodshed in the army’s suppression of Mursi supporters.
Egypt will need all the financial support it can get in the coming months as it grapples with growing economic woes, especially in the important tourism sector that accounts for more than 10 per cent of gross domestic product.
The United States urged its citizens to leave Egypt on Thursday and two of Europe’s biggest tour operators, Germany’s TUI and Thomas Cook Germany, said they were cancelling all trips to the country until September 15.
On Thursday, the UN Security Council urged all parties in Egypt to exercise restraint, but did not assign blame.
“The view of council members is that it is important to end violence in Egypt,” Argentine UN Ambassador Maria Cristina Perceval said after the 15-member council met on the situation.

Wow they don't fear death, so definitely it will be the next Syria.
 
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No it was a false and decitefull war based on lies..... this is why people are looking at these things and thinking why shouyld muslims be mercifull to minorities when no one else is

Even when it happened....I knew it wasn't about WMD's (perhaps I'm smarter than most....I knew Saddam wouldn't use them on us, though I expected them to be found easier....everyone knows he had them...ask your Iranian buddies). But after 9/11 it was clear the middle east couldn't be allowed to continue "as is". Iraq had a history with us, and bordered virtually every major player in the region....had to go. The Islamist wanted to be noticed....they were....stop whining about it...you got what you wanted. Everyone in the region wanted to pee in the tall grass with the big dogs, well welcome to the major leagues...this is how it's done.
 
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I see,your entire faith thinks that if you draw a picture of the Prophet you'll burn in hell and you will suffer but somehow in your mind you find it amusing if someone thinks that God will punish someone who torches Holy churches to the ground in an act of mindless barbarity.Well,laugh away thinking in your infailible religious superiority.



I don't give 2 cents on what has Britain done,Britain is not the copts who are scratching a precarious living in Egypt without having to suffer their churches burned down by savagers.
And,btw,i do apply the same rule for mosques to.in my book mosques are places of worship,places of God,whoever defiles is bound for hell,just like in the cases of churches.No difference,a house of God is a house of God it should not be burned or desecrated.

you are right burning of church is as condemn-able act as of Mosque. But that does not enable you to mass murder peaceful protesters, if Christianity believes in peace and tolerance?
 
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Confirmed

Saudi Arabia : " Saudi Arabia stands Today with the people of Egypt against terrorism, and let those who interfered know that they r supporting the terrorism they claim to be fighting "
 
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you are right burning of church is as condemn-able act as of Mosque. But that does not enable you to mass murder peaceful protesters, if Christianity believes in peace and tolerance?

Yes it does.You could see my post above ,burn/desecrate a mosque or church is the same crime.I'm not agreeing with killing of civilians i've just said that when you burn a church you could be in for Divine retribution.Sins are punishable you know.
 
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