Observers during elections are important in order for a fair and free process, as a result petitions with random numbers being thrown around of 17 million are worthless and do not trump democratic elections & a democratic mandate.
Well done you described what observers do, have a nice big chocolate chipped cookie. However, no one said that a petition (with double the number of votes Morsi got) trumps democratic elections. Again, Morsi breached the mandate given to him by the people and lost his legitimacy, the numbers themselves are of little relevance.
This is why it is annoying when shills like yourself keep claiming to act on behalf of the egyptian people when opinion is so divided and no free or fair monitored process has taken place to determine the will of the egyptian people APART FROM THE ELECTION which bought the MB to power.
DISCLAIMER
I act on the behalf of myself and the views I put forward are mine and do not represent the views of all Egyptians.
What you don't want to understand or cant understand is that Morsi overstepped his mandate and became increasingly authoritarian and so (in any true democratic system) he had to go because the social contract signed with the Egyptian people was no longer valid. Again, the numbers are of little relevance when what you seek is a democratic process rather than a event.
You state "The MB had no intentions of setting up a democratic process in Egypt", how do you know this, did you even give them a chance other then the 11 months they had.
Ok,
1) releasing a constitutional decree granting Morsi unlimited legislative powers in order to protect the constitutional assembly from the constitutional courts verdict (to dissolve it) so they could push through an illegitimate constitution to referendum.
2) Using the same constitutional decree to remove the chief prosecutor and replace him with another. The chief prosecutor can only be appointed and removed by judicial order and so the president intervened in judicial matters. Independent judiciary system threatened.
3) After the constitution passed the referendum he refused amendments to problem clauses, some of which prevented earlier parliamentary elections. He also refused reconciliation talks with the opposition.
4) Widespread arrests of opposition activists and the largest amount (more than Mubarak in fact) of judicial complaints against media personalities for insulting the president and Im sure youre aware of Bassem Yusufs case.
5) Removing governors and replacing them with FJP and affiliate figures all of whom were rejected by the people of the governates and never saw office.
Yeah sounds like the foundation of a real democratic process in Egypt. Talking of chances would you kindly name me one economic or social reform in Morsis first year (just one)?
This is all opinion, you believe they were trying to controle, but others dont.
They controlled all of Egypt's major ministries except the ministry of defence and were the majority in the (unelected) shura council plus they tried to install 12 governors, all of this in their first year.......
If others don't then why did the Morsi regime fall before the military coup? Why didn't the governors see their offices? Why did civil servants and journalists kick out their FJP ministers and chief editors?
There are millions of people in egypt who hold and alterntive view so why should your desire for a military led coup and removal of the regime be upheld when millions of others who voted for the MB and the president be ignored
Where are these people?
Rab3a al3adawiya in which MB supporters from all over the country were bused in can only hold under half a million people. Again, the numbers generated are irrelevant. In a democratic nation if an elected leader breaches the mandate given to them they must be removed, no matter how much public support they have.
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In a democratic system the process of electing and removing a president and government is through the ballot box not the idiot mob.
Mass protests are a result of legitimate grievances and must be taken seriously. The MB didn't and they got pitched. The ballot box is
not the only way to remove a president in advanced democratic nations.
With everybody respecting the system, the election and the results, thus ifthe liberal slime party came to power in the next election all MB supporters MUST adhere to the results of the elections and respect the results and new government, but when their choice of person is in power the same respect must be given to him/them.
If a MB president (of any for that matter) is elected (nigh on impossible) after the transitional phase then there must be a constitution with adequate checks and balances on governmental/presidential powers and so if a president breaches his given powers there will be grave repercussions.
You muppets did nothing, you were so self serving in your actions that you overthrew a democratically elected president because your little group didnt like him.
If you actually followed the events in Egypt you would know that those who protested against the regime weren't just the opposition and their sympathizers but those who were once sympathetic (and voted for Morsi) to MB and were alienated by their agenda and politcal mismanagement in addition to the ordinary poor or middle class Egyptian who didnt have any politcal affiliations but saw that the MB and its affiiliates were destroying the nation for an agenda the majority of Egyptians weren't in favour of, without all these people Morsi would not have been toppled. The opposition have been holding protests for the past two years and their demands weren't listened to by the army nor the government as they simply didn't have as much public support as they did on June 30th.
It is now of utmost important that the muslims of egypt fight this tooth and nail
This isn't a holy war and I would advise you to cease inciting sectarian conflict.
The first chant.....
President Zardari of Pakistan was an utter idiot and ruinous for the nation and state, he did nothing but mismanage the country for 5 years, but we did not overthrow the muppet, he was worse then Morsi.
Pakistani democracy is practically a tragically unfunny joke. Mismanagement is one of the reasons Morsi was ousted but it certainly wasnt the primary one, Egypt has been through far worse economic situation yet those didn't result in mass demonstrations and coups or revolutions.
Ramadan mubarak.
well the source is very much pro Morsi. wait for confirmation from neutral source . but thx anyway.
The majority of pro-Morsi supporters arent members of the MB, It recruits selectively.
And @
Jihad_ have respect for the family of the kid that died in that incident......