Egypt and Turkey, politically was bad relations but economically excellent.. how about future Military relations..

[Akritas]

This thread is about Egypt and Turkiye cooperation on defense industry it is not about Greece. Dont derail the thread and quit bringing up greece in every thread about Turkiye.

First of all, you did not read what I wrote before, and concern the relations of Egypt with the countries of the Mediterranean. Whether you see ghosts is your own business.

And back to my simple position: How can you talk about military cooperation when Egypt has bought new modern weapons from Italy and France?
I would add that Egypt is also a producer of weapons systems such as the ones that Turkey wants to sell to it.

example: Why buy Hisar by Turkey, when Egypt has bought and produces the very best IRIS-T SLM ?

 

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example: Why buy Hisar by Turkey, when Egypt has bought and produces the very best IRIS-T SLM ?

25 km IRIS-T is nothing to compare with Turkish portable and mobile Air Defense Systems

15 km HISAR-A
25 km HISAR-O
50 km HISAR-RF
70-120 km SIPER

Egypt can replace old American HAWK , CHAPARRAL and old Soviet S-125 , PECHORA , VOLGA , TOR , KUB Air Defense Systems with most modern Turkish HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems

 

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And back to my simple position: How can you talk about military cooperation when Egypt has bought new modern weapons from Italy and France?

Egypt buys Naval platforms from İtaly and France

but Italy and France can not offer modern weapons to Egypt instead of Turkish weapons


-- Turkish UCAVs which have superior fire power with 15-30-40-150-250 km missiles to hit even moving targets

40 km TRLG-122 guided MLRS
70 km TRLG-230 guided MLRS
120 km TRG-300 guided MLRS
280 km BORA Tactiical Ballistic Missile
280 km KARA-ATMACA ground launched Cruise Missile
280 km SOM air launched Cruise Missile
1.000 km KARGI anti-radiation Drone
KORAL - REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare Systems
Airborne stand off Jammer Aircraft
LASER Weapons
Kamikaze Drones
KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
Carrier based UCAVs for MISTRAL class LHDs
modernization of F-16 Fighter Jets , Helicopters , Tanks , etc

 

[Akritas]

modernization of F-16 Fighter Jets , Helicopters , Tanks , etc

Like this modernization?

 

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Like this modernization?

Like this modernization

ASELSAN F-16 block70 modernization

 

[Akritas]

Only in the papers, , it is obvious that the turkish program is just photos, after all that's why you requested new F-16V and modernizations kits from the USA.
Egypt wants tried and tested military systems and weapons, not paper like turkish F-16 modernization.
Here you can not repair a simple sheet metal, as shown in the photo of the Turkish F-16, how will someone trust you?

 

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Only in the papers, , it is obvious that the turkish program is just photos, after all that's why you requested new F-16V and modernizations kits from the USA.
Egypt wants tried and tested military systems and weapons, not paper like turkish F-16 modernization. Here you can not maintain a simple sheet metal, as shown in the photo of the Turkish F-16.

Only in the papers ? maybe in your lies


Turkiye modernized 41 Pakistani F-16s

Turkiye modernized 163 Turkish F-16s to block52 standard ( CCIP modernization )

Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II)
Modular Mission Computer
Advanced interrogator/transponder
Integrated precision navigation
LCD Color MFDs
Improved AVTR System
Multifunctional Information Distribution System
High speed Anti-Radar Missile Targeting System
ASELPOD Targeting Pod

also Turkiye has started modernization of 35 F-16 block30s ( OZGUR modernization block70 standart )

we are waiting for Aselsan AESA Radar

ASELSAN Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II)

SPEWS-II is an advanced, internally mounted self protection system specifically designed for F-16C Fighter Jets

-- Radar Warning Receiver (RWR)
-- Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) Suite
-- Deceptive RF jamming
-- Intelligent control of chaff/ flare dispenser systems

 

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Here you can not maintain a simple sheet metal, as shown in the photo of the Turkish F-16.

Your cheap propaganda wont work


TUSAS produce F-16s with zero error

Turkiye produced 270 F-16 under license for the Turkish Airforce
Turkiye produced 46 F-16 under license for the Egyptian Airforce

Turkish Aerospace F-16 Block 30 Structural Modernization​

 

[Akritas]

First you put me two different projects.
The first program was designed and carried out 10-12 years ago, with the help of LM and the Pakistani F-16s(Peace Gate II) reached the level of -15+ MLU, not even the -30!!!
The second, the so called Ozgur, has failed, because without the help of the Lockheed Martin, it remained stagnant, which is why Turkey requested a new F-16V and modernizations kits.

 

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First you put me two different projects.
The first program was designed and carried out 10-12 years ago, with the help of LM and the Pakistani F-16s(Peace Gate II) reached the level of -15+ MLU, not even the -30!!!
The second, the so called Ozgur, has failed, because without the help of the Lockheed Martin, it remained stagnant, which is why Turkey requested a new F-16V and modernizations kits.

I put all Turkish F-16 modernization projects in the last 15 years

-- 41 Pakistani F-16s
-- 163 Turkish F-16s ( CCIP modernization block52 standard )


and the so called Ozgur has failed ?
stop lying or educate yourself if you know nothing about Turkish projects

Project ÖZGÜR: Turkiye starts modernizing its F-16 with locally developed modernization package

35 F-16 Block 30 Fighter Jets with a unique mission computer with national avionics and national OFP software

-- The service life of F-16 Block 30 extended from 8.000 hours to 12000 hours
-- National Friend-Foe Identification (IFF) System
-- National AESA Radar
-- National Mission Computer
-- Multifunction Cockpit Center Display Active Matrix Liquid Crystal Display
-- Fuel Hydraulic Gauge
-- Inertial Navigation System
-- Engine Indicator Display
-- National Sound Safety Device
-- Digital Camouflage
Aselsan SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite

03.06.2022

Project ÖZGÜR: Turkey starts modernizing its F-16 with indigenous technology

The ÖZGÜR project is a locally developed modernization package to be applied to the Turkish Air Force's F-16 Block 30 fleet. According to the SavunmaSanay

www.aviacionline.com

USA approval Turkiye to grante access to an interface called Operational Flight Program / the source codes for 35 F-16s block30s to use indigenous Systems and Missiles

OZGUR means INDEPENDENT - FREE .. full of Turkish systems - missiles and guided bombs


Turkiye can not use indigenous systems and missiles on 71 F-16 block50 and 29 F-16 block50+
Therefore Turkiye needs American modernization kits for 71 F-16 block50s

 

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Turkish Aerospace Industries ... the best in the Region

Egypt , Greece , İsrael , İran , S.Arabia not even close

 

[Foinikas]

15 km HISAR-A
25 km HISAR-O
50 km HISAR-RF
70-120 km SIPER

When and if.

Project ÖZGÜR: Turkiye starts modernizing its F-16 with locally developed modernization package

35 F-16 Block 30 Fighter Jets with a unique mission computer with national avionics and national OFP software

-- The service life of F-16 Block 30 extended from 8.000 hours to 12000 hours
-- National Friend-Foe Identification (IFF) System
-- National AESA Radar
-- National Mission Computer
-- Multifunction Cockpit Center Display Active Matrix Liquid Crystal Display
-- Fuel Hydraulic Gauge
-- Inertial Navigation System
-- Engine Indicator Display
-- National Sound Safety Device
-- Digital Camouflage
Aselsan SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite

Superpower Ozgur

Meanwhile asks for F-16Vs from USA.

 

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When and if.


Superpower Ozgur

Meanwhile asks for F-16Vs from USA.

Have you no brain to understand it ? read again


USA approval Turkiye to grante access to an interface called Operational Flight Program / the source codes for only 35 F-16s block30s to use indigenous Systems and Missiles

the ÖZGÜR modernization will only cover the 35 F-16 Block 30s


Turkiye can not use indigenous systems and missiles on 71 F-16 block50
Therefore Turkiye needs American modernization kits for 71 F-16 block50s

 

[Foinikas]

Have you no brain to understand it ? read again


USA approval Turkiye to grante access to an interface called Operational Flight Program / the source codes for only 35 F-16s block30s to use indigenous Systems and Missiles

the ÖZGÜR modernization will only cover the 35 F-16 Block 30s


Turkiye can not use indigenous systems and missiles on 71 F-16 block50
Therefore Turkiye needs American modernization kits for 71 F-16 block50s

Yesterday,in a thread you said that "Turkiye needs no approval".

 

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Yesterday,in a thread you said that "Turkiye needs no approval".

I said only for OZGUR project 35 F-16 block30s
because USA has already approval Turkiye to grante access to an interface called Operational Flight Program / the source codes for 35 F-16s block30s to use indigenous Systems and Missiles


USA should give the source codes for 71 F-16 block50 to Turkiye , then Turkiye can use indigenous systems and missiles on 71 F-16 block50s