ECHR: Turkey killed 38 civilians, not PKK

[Bahoz]

( NOTE: NOT to be confused with the recent Roboski massacre in which 34 villagers were killed. This is an older case)

In a recent judgement carried out by the European Court of Human Rights, Turkey has been found guilty in killing 38 Kurdish civilians back in 1994 where the conflict between PKK and Turkish army was at a peak. The 38 civilians were mostly women, children and elder who lived in the two farming villages in the Kurdish city of Sirnak.

Turkey had ever since 1994 claimed that it was PKK who was behind the attack and that they had used rocket-propelled grenades in order to destroy the villages. However, the EHRC ruled out such allegation noting that it was unlikely that such rockets could cause the damage, and also that PKK members were not active in the area according to local sources.

Local sources claimed:

That day, however, military planes and a helicopter circled the applicants’ two villages and then started to bomb them. The bombs dropped from the planes were very large; some villagers described them “as big as a table”. Subsequently, machine gun fire was opened from the helicopter. Some of the people were hit directly and some were trapped under the rubble of the houses that were destroyed in the bombing. Those who survived tried to take cover. The men working in the nearby fields ran to the village and tried to rescue people from underneath the rubble

The court holds that Turkey has failed to comply with some of the following articles of the European Convention of Human Rights;

1) The right to life , Article 2
2) The right to not being subjected to torture, Article 3
3) The right for a trial, Article 38

The final verdict holds that Turkey must pay pecuniary and non-pecuniary damage following the damage dealt by the Turkish army against human lives, the families of the victimes and their property. The total adds up to some 2.300.000- 3.000.000 Euros.

Read the whole judgement here;

http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng...onid2":["JUDGMENTS"],"itemid":["001-128036"]}

 

[Bahoz]

Not the first time Turkey blames PKK or PKK activists for criminal acts it had committed itself. No Turkish members who want to comment on this?

EUROPE - European court fines Turkey 331,000 euros in case into killing of five by soldiers

Turkey Found Guilty of “Bombarding Kuşkonar Village” in 1994 - Bianet

http://www.bianet.org/english/english/150746-3-echr-convictions-in-3-weeks

 

[Bahoz]

This is really shocking to me. I have no words to be honest...

Villagers killed in aerial attack officially alive, lawyer says

Twenty-five of 38 villagers killed in an attack in southeastern Turkey almost 20 years ago were still alive according to official documents, a lawyer says

Twenty-five of the 38 people killed in an airstrike in Şırnak in 1994 are still alive according to official documents, lawyers of the victim relatives claimed yesterday, as the case came to the agenda again after the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) fined Turkey over 2.3 million euros for the killings.

Tahir Elçi, lawyer of the victims’ relatives, said of the 25 people killed in the attack on Kuşkonar Village during a 1994 attack were still alive in the official documents, because they were buried in a mass grave without any autopsy, Doğan News Agency reported today.

“As the aerial attacks continued near Kuşkonar village, the relatives of those killed could not find the chance to take their relatives’ bodies to a safer place or conduct a funeral. They dug a long hole and buried the 25 dead in the mass grave and left the village. None of them returned to the village again,” said Elçi, also the head of the Diyarbakır Bar Association. He claimed no official death records were taken.

“We have applied to authorities many times to open the graves, but received no response,” said Elçi.
On March 26, 1994, a total of 38 people, 25 people in Kuşkonar village and 13 people in Koçağılı village were killed during an aerial attack.

The case came to the spotlight after the ECHR ordered Turkey in a recent judgment to pay 2.3 million euros to the 38 people who lost 33 relatives in bombings from the Turkish military. The court concluded Turkey failed “to protect the right to life,” “conduct proper investigation,” and provide any humanitarian support to the survivors,” and also said the prosecutor has accused the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) for the attack without any investigation or proof from the incident.

The Justice Minister Sadullah Ergin said after ECHR’S decision, the case can be opened again, upon a question.

“If the parties desire, a new investigation can be opened after the ECHR finds a violation with the fourth reform package introduced in 2013 [by the Turkish government]. For this reason, an investigation will be opened into the case again after yesterday’s decision [from the ECHR],” said Ergin after a meeting with the Council of Europe Secretary General Thorbjorn Jagland in Strasbourg.

Elçi claimed 43 villagers were killed in the aerial attack, but five victims’ relatives did not apply to the ECHR.

Ahmet Yıldırım, from Kuşkonar village, said he saw two jets flying over the village on the day of the attack and he ran into the house because of the volume of the jets’ engines. “My wife Elmas was running behind me. I heard of a huge explosion when I entered the house. When the noises stopped, I left the house and saw that Elmas was in pieces. Then I learned that my other relatives were killed. We brought the bodies to the village center and buried them in one grave. We moved to Kumçatı village a few days later,” said Yıldırım, recalling the day of the attack, after giving his testimony in the prosecutor’s office.

On Nov. 12, the ECHR concluded “the Turkish government had conducted an aerial attack killing 33 people and injuring three of the applicants, in violation of Article 2 (right to life for the European Convention on Human Rights.)”

The court ordered Turkey to pay a total of 2,305,000 euros in non-pecuniary damage, and 5,700 euros jointly in respect of costs and expenses to the 38 applicants, three of whom were wounded in the attack, the rest relatives.

 

[-SINAN-]

Keep bumping your own threads.

 

[Bahoz]

You guys should be mature enough to discuss the mistakes of your own state... One would have thought at least. It is important that the truth is told. If you think denying it or turning a blind eye to it will solve anything you are very wrong. Can you tell me one time in history where denial of the truth has solved anything?

 

[Bahoz]

Turkey fined 2.3 mln euros for killing of 33 villagers in 1994

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ordered Turkey to pay 2.3 million euros to the 38 people who lost more than 30 relatives after the Turkish military bombed two Kurdish villages in the southeastern province of Şırnak by aircraft in March 1994.

Thirty three villagers in Kuşkonar and Koçağili villages of southeastern province of Şırnak were killed and three others were wounded in an attack in March 1994. The villagers claimed that they had heard a jet noise before the aerial attack and claimed that they were attacked by the Turkish Air Forces. The prosecutors decided that the attack was carried out by the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) militants.

The ECHR concluded that “the Turkish government had conducted an aerial attack killing 33 people and injuring three of the applicants, in violation of Article 2” (right to life) of the European Convention on Human Rights.
The court ordered Turkey to pay a total of 2,305,000 euros in non-pecuniary damage, and 5,700 euros jointly in respect of costs and expenses to 38 applicants, three of whom were wounded in the attack, the rest relatives.

The court found that Turkey had violated Article 2 by failing to properly investigate the attack.

“In particular, it found that almost no steps had been taken immediately after the bombing to investigate what had happened, and when the incident had actually been looked into the investigators were not independent, formed baseless conclusions on extremely minimal investigations, and attempted to withhold the investigation documents from the applicants,” said the court in its explanation of the decision. The court also said that the prosecutors’ conclusions demonstrated that “none of them had an open mind” as to what could have happened in the applicants’ villages at the time, and they “hastily blamed the killings on the PKK without any basis.” Most crucially, no investigation was apparently carried out into the flight log, the key element for the possible identification and prosecution of those responsible, said the court.

The court also said that the Article 3 (prohibition of inhuman or degrading treatment) had been violated, because the villagers had been forced to witness the deaths of their relatives and the destruction of their homes, and were not provided with even the minimum of humanitarian aid to deal with the aftermath of the attack.

 

[Bahoz]

The victims have stated that they will refuse the money. They want the guilty ones to be found and punished. They do not want money.

 

[Mitro]

Sick people are always ashamed of their past mistake and will never admit it and will die with that burden.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

What benefits would Turkey make out of this then?

 

[Bahoz]

LOL...Thanks for sharing your wisdom pearls...Now begone and mind your own business



None...It was just a mistake to hit those smugglers..Thats all...But some lunatics love to make propaganda out of this as usual..No big deal..No one cares

It is his business. When crimes against humanity happens, it is the business of us all. Especially if the perpetrators are not found.

Besides, this topic is not about Roboski. It is about in incident that happened in the 90's where the turkish state terrorism was at its peak. You should read the judgement from ECHR. Broaden your horizon you know.

 

[BronzePlaque]

It is his business. When crimes against humanity happens, it is the business of us all. Especially if the perpetrators are not found.

Besides, this topic is not about Roboski. It is about in incident that happened in the 90's where the turkish state terrorism was at its peak. You should read the judgement from ECHR. Broaden your horizon you know.

Its interesting tho, you are mentioning "Turkish State Terrorism" but somehow you fail to mention "The Real Terrorism"? Care to look for some real terrorist action reports? Broaden your horizon you know

 

[Bahoz]

Its interesting tho, you are mentioning "Turkish State Terrorism" but somehow you fail to mention "The Real Terrorism"? Care to look for some real terrorist action reports? Broaden your horizon you know

Real terrorism? LOL! That one is new. So could you tell me what is real terrorism and what is fake terrorism?

 

[BronzePlaque]

Real terrorism? LOL! That one is new. So could you tell me what is real terrorism and what is fake terrorism?

Your petty attempt to twist my words is just pathetic man...Just ask your peaceful comrades to learn whats real terrorism...The fake terrorism is what you desperately try to portray Turkey in every single threat

When crimes against humanity happens, it is the business of us al

When Turkish civilians get killed you are silent as a mull but crying out loud when kurdish get killed...Hypocrisy at its finest..Thats why your kind is untrustworthy...Now you can go back to your cave

 

[Bahoz]

Your petty attempt to twist my words is just pathetic man...Just ask your peaceful comrades to learn whats real terrorism...The fake terrorism is what you desperately try to portray Turkey in every single threat



When Turkish civilians get killed you are silent as a mull but crying out loud when kurdish get killed...Hypocrisy at its finest..Thats why your kind is untrustworthy...Now you can go back to your cave

When was the last time Turkish civilians were killed by PKK and when was the last time Kurdish civilians were killed by turkish terror state? Exactly.

In fact, forget about Kurds. When was the last time Turks were killed by turkish terror states ( cough cough Gezi). Exactly.

What is funny is not you not being able to criticize the terror state when killing civilian Kurds. What is funny is you not being able to criticize the turkish terror state when it kills ethnic Turks. What it basically means is that you are unable to criticize the turkish terror state even if it killed your own kin.[/quote]

 

[-SINAN-]

When was the last time Turkish civilians were killed by PKK and when was the last time Kurdish civilians were killed by turkish terror state? Exactly.

In fact, forget about Kurds. When was the last time Turks were killed by turkish terror states ( cough cough Gezi). Exactly.

What is funny is not you not being able to criticize the terror state when killing civilian Kurds. What is funny is you not being able to criticize the turkish terror state when it kills ethnic Turks. What it basically means is that you are unable to criticize the turkish terror state even if it killed your own kin.

[/quote]

Turkish terror state ???

Better than a terrorist supporter stateless clown.....