East Pakistan loss was a Political not a Military failure, says COAS

[Goenitz]

When he says all "maar dhaar" was done on bajwas "ishaara" how does he know that?
The extension was handed off by Imran khan does he make a mention of that.

Sorry to say moeeds analysis quality has gone down since he stopped pointing out pti mistakes.

Take a look at him how cleverly brings kashmir in the human rights issue in india point by bajwa.. bajwa wasn't particularly talking about kashmir.

1. Even if not done by Bajwa, the perception is there. You cannot stop the flow of information. If govt cannot provide the facts, rumors/propaganda fills it. Nevertheless, majority believe Bajwa is behind it with his cronies.
2. Subjective opinion.
3. Basic Science rule. If you want to compare two things, the conditions must be standard. How can we compare Kashmir with Pakistan? In addition, indians won't talk about their army perhaps, their internal accountability is really robust, unlike ours. Hence, they have no grievance and nothing to complaint. Also, we loved army so much that we supported even coups. The moment the bubble burst, the emotional barrage go bonkers. You have to understand, it was an emotional relationship and heartbreaks are tough.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

If he was pro military then and bias, then we all were. I haven't watched the video.

"If a man looks at the world when he is 50 the same way he looked at it when he was 20 and it hasn't changed, then be has wasted 30 years of his life"

He in his past videos himself has raised it that how debacle of Dhaka started long ago.not 71 .
He explicitly talked about how mujeeb was meeting indians in 62 and how agartala case was made on him.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Mir Bharwa is just being a salty biatch at this point and will blame everyone and their mother for the mess except himself and his god damned colonial supression tool of an institution.

 

[Goenitz]

He in his past videos himself has raised it that how debacle of Dhaka started long ago.not 71 .
He explicitly talked about how mujeeb was meeting indians in 62 and how agartala case was made on him.

Sure, Mujeeb wd had done that too. I argued before just one incident cannot be a silver bullet. There was a series of events. Yes, if we hate each other then minute difference can separate spark. Like 1867 Urdu-Hindi controversy and Sir Sayed said "that Muslims and Hindus cannot live together, the one who lives will see".. Same, with Urdu-Bangla thing. The point is these small differences can be negotiated. The main thing is self respect, representation and protection of rights.
Every EU/West country is multi-lingual. No issue. When number increase, they make it official. In UK, Scottish and Welsh are recognised legal languages. Some Scottish want separate country too, some not. But if there are civil/human rights violations, Scottish wd go separate way the very next day. Do you know about Catalan Referendum? There are faults lines everywhere... but people manage it.

 

[SIPRA]

Mir Bharwa is just being a salty biatch.....

Mir Bajwa is now an angry out-of-job pimp.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

1. Even if not done by Bajwa, the perception is there. You cannot stop the flow of information. If govt cannot provide the facts, rumors/propaganda fills it. Nevertheless, majority believe Bajwa is behind it with his cronies.
2. Subjective opinion.
3. Basic Science rule. If you want to compare two things, the conditions must be standard. How can we compare Kashmir with Pakistan? In addition, indians won't talk about their army perhaps, their internal accountability is really robust, unlike ours. Hence, they have no grievance and nothing to complaint. Also, we loved army so much that we supported even coups. The moment the bubble burst, the emotional barrage go bonkers. You have to understand, it was an emotional relationship and heartbreaks are tough.

1. .. dg ispr.. has multiple times said.. dont drag us in politics(between pti and pmln)
What happened was federal govt. used FIA IB and other state machinery including ISI at its disposal to crush pti and you should know isi works with whoever is in power.. isi was and is working with pti in other provinces..just like it's working with pmln in federal.
2.no seriously.. look at his tone change since last year... he has been an unequivocal supporter of pti which is fine.. but then he should admit his views may not be balanced and may have a bias.

3. Bajwa didn't even mention kashmir while mentioning that..he mentioned human rights in India.. kashmir is technically a disputed state..and not part of india state..he was talking about their local issues..
See the googlies he throws now.
Thats why I have stopped listening to him.

PTI and Imran khan will fail until they do their khod ihtesaabi. And moeed is not part of that theme.

 

[epebble]

But no Huntington predicted a 99% muslim Pakistan mitosis in 1971 either.

Huntington's thesis does not predict all conflicts. We had our Civil War, Canada had conflicts in Quebec over language, U.K. had/has conflicts with Ireland, Scotland. These are not civilizational. Bangladesh was a language conflict, at least in the beginning.

 

[langda khan]

Huntington's thesis does not predict all conflicts. We had our Civil War, Canada had conflicts in Quebec over language, U.K. had/has conflicts with Ireland, Scotland. These are not civilizational. Bangladesh was a language conflict, at least in the beginning.

Egad NO! If you believe Bangladesh was a linguistic conflict, I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Mir Bajwa is now an angry out-of-job pimp.

The house never sleeps mate

 

[ghazi52]

.,.,.,

 

[ghazi52]

.,.,.,
Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa has said that 'East Pakistan was not a military but a political failure.' In Hamudur Rehman Commission report, which officers were recommended to conduct cases or court martial proceedings and then what happened to these recommendations?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595992098997682176

 

[ghazi52]

.,.,.
With us, admitting a mistake is considered disrespectful, so the chances of correction are negligible!

 

[ziaulislam]

1. .. dg ispr.. has multiple times said.. dont drag us in politics(between pti and pmln)
What happened was federal govt. used FIA IB and other state machinery including ISI at its disposal to crush pti and you should know isi works with whoever is in power.. isi was and is working with pti in other provinces..just like it's working with pmln in federal.
2.no seriously.. look at his tone change since last year... he has been an unequivocal supporter of pti which is fine.. but then he should admit his views may not be balanced and may have a bias.

3. Bajwa didn't even mention kashmir while mentioning that..he mentioned human rights in India.. kashmir is technically a disputed state..and not part of india state..he was talking about their local issues..
See the googlies he throws now.
Thats why I have stopped listening to him.

PTI and Imran khan will fail until they do their khod ihtesaabi. And moeed is not part of that theme.

You deserve a bonus.. make sure you claim it

 

[SecularNationalist]

Now, since you asked me and I have listened. Yes, it is his voice.

No authoritative and rohab wali awaaz one expects from a general. Bajwa voice is the opposite of his rank and personality. And that DG ISI anjum sounds like vagina talking during periods.
The best graceful and authoritative voice were 1)general kayani 2) general musharaff 3) current Ispr Dg babur is also good.
A general should talk, walk and look like a general.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

You deserve a bonus.. make sure you claim it

I can only wish there was money involved..Just answer the damn thing..I'm here for a serious talk with the "demoralized" as in yuri bezmenovs words exposure to true Information doesn't matter to a demoralized anymore until...