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Country Projected Sales
Albania 20
Argentina 50
Azerbaijan 6
Bangladesh 20
Bolivia 30
China 150
Congo 30
Egypt 150
Eritrea 12
Ethiopia 30
Indonesia 6
Iran 150
Lebanon 6
Malaysia 40
Morocco 20
Myanmar 30
Nigeria 30
North Korea 200
Pakistan 250
Sri Lanka 12
Sudan 20
Syria 50
Tanzania 6
Thailand 40
Venezuela 40
Zimbabwe 30

North Korea 200?????:rofl::rofl:, what are they going to pay with? They're broke and sanctioned.
 
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SEE WHATS GOING ON HEREE ....

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Idher loog mer rahay hain k kisi tarha Jahazon me beath sakain, or ye bethi hass rahi hain.
"1 . Suno utha nai, 2 . Hmm bethnay nahin dain ge abi time pora nahin hua, jaoo bhago .... khe khe kheee " :sick:

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Azerbaijan intends to purchase JF-17 combat aircrafts jointly produced by Pakistan and China

09:25 GMT, November 16, 2011 Baku | As Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), which displayed its products in Dubai Airshow-2011 in UAE, told APA, Azerbaijan shows interest in JF-17 Thunder combat aircrafts jointly produced by Pakistan and China and announced its intention to purchase aircrafts of this type.

The JF-17 Thunder performed flight displays over the Dubai airport during the air show. Members of the Azerbaijani delegation also watched the flights.

Referring to negotiations held with Azerbaijan, company officials said that the discussions have not entered the phase of signing a contract yet.The company is currently executing the orders of the Pakistani Air Forces; the export to Azerbaijan could be realised in the upcoming years. According to the company, the negotiating parties are determining the annual amount of the possible order.

Offering a high manoeuvrability, JF-17 Thunder aircraft have the same or even superior capabilities to the MiG-29 aircraft of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. By introducing this asset into its inventory the Azerbaijani Armed Forces could increase their combat effectiveness.

So after how many years? Any guesses?
 
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Maybe we can exchange some jets with some Nuclear bombs. Lets go and ask AQ Khan what we should do... :rofl:

Nuclear bombs?

What era do you live in?

Because Pakistan already has both, Nuclear 'bombs' and jets.....and needs to exchange nothing...
 
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I'm joking about AQ Khan, friend. We have nuclear bombs but whats wrong with getting ready made ones anyways? We can make a JFT anytime and won't take no longer than 2-3 weeks per piece. Nuclear bombs will take months. North Korea doesn't have the money and we can't give JFT for free!. To think about it Nuclear is not a bad option
 
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some translation for the 2nd video houshanghai woot!

this news report means that JF17 was a light-weight,4 gen multi-role fighter, co-developed jointly by pakistan and china .
The current JFT BLK1 capability surpass the earlier F16 or Mig29. and JFT blk1 avionics is equal to or even better than F16 C/D. This multi-purpose platform has handle air to air and air to surface including mobile objects on both land and sea. JF17 is an affordable platform that cost 1/3 of what F16 charges but with matching capability on many fronts.

In addition,JFT BLK2 will add air refueling capability ,the data link and electronic warfare capabilities.and new guided weapons. A two-seat variant is being developed, too.


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The light grey colour scheme JFT from Farnborough looks better than the one from Dubai.
 
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Air force dropped 10,600 bombs in two years: Qamar

15 November, 2011



DUBAI: Pakistan Air Force chief has outlined details of airpower's role in a three-year-old campaign waged against Taliban insurgents entrenched in the northwest tribal areas, reports Flight Global.

Speaking at the Dubai International Air Chiefs' Conference, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman confirmed for the first time the role played by the air force's Lockheed Martin F-16s and specially-equipped Lockheed C-130s.

Until August 2008, Pakistan's air force had no experience in participating in counter-insurgency operations. The role had previously been dominated by the army's artillery and helicopters.

Believing the range and precision of the air force's new F-16 fleet could yield better results, the air force embarked on a rapid learning curve. The air force acquired Goodrich DB-110 targeting pods for F-16s and fitted C-130s with FLIR Systems Brite Star II and Star Safire III sensors, Suleman said.

The fighters in August 2008 launched a bombardment against a newly discovered Taliban stronghold of about 200 fighters in the small village of Loe Sam, Suleman said. The Pakistani Air Force later applied a number of lessons from the Loe Sam operation on a subsequent campaign against major Taliban positions in the Swat valley.

Among the lessons was the need to monitor and strike mountain passes that could be used as escape routes for the displaced Taliban fighters, Suleman said. In the first two years of counter-insurgency operations, the air force conducted more than 5,500 strike sorties, dropped 10,600 bombs and hit 4,600 targets, Suleman said.

AINONLINE adds the commander of the PAF described some lessons learned to the air chiefs' conference. The need for good airborne reconnaissance was paramount, said Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleiman.

When the Army launched large-scale operations in the remote Federally Administered Tribal Areas in August 2008, the PAF had to rely on Google Earth imagery when planning air support missions, Suleiman admitted.

However, by the time that the army was ready to move against insurgents in the Swat valley in May 2009, the PAF had acquired Goodrich DB-110 electro-optical reconnaissance pods for its F-16 fighters, together with the same company's ground station for imagery exploitation. Intelligence analysts could now identify terrorist training camps, ammunition dumps and command and control facilities. Some of these targets were well camouflaged and protected by bunkers, Suleiman noted.

Two days before the ground offensive was launched, the PAF launched a series of interdiction missions and followed up with close air support throughout the six-month campaign. From the imagery collected by the PAF, the army was also able to identify suitable landing zones for the airdrops of commandos.

In these mountainous regions, airpower was best delivered from medium altitude by fast jets, Suleiman said. "The army has lost many attack helicopters due to their operating limitations at high elevations and [due to] hostile fire," he noted. Fighters could also react more quickly to developing combat situations.

When the army turned its attention to South Waziristan in October 2009, the PAF conducted a seven-day campaign in advance. By now, the service had added FLIR Systems Star Safire III EO/IR sensor ball to one of its C-130 transports. Army staff on board the C-130 was able to track the movement of terrorists at night and radio maneuvering instructions to soldiers on the ground.

The PAF has completely overhauled its tactics and techniques for the conduct of irregular warfare, Suleiman said. All of the squadrons were put through a training program over a four-month period. Laser-guided bombs have been used in 80 percent of the PAF strikes, the PAF chief revealed.

Avoiding collateral damage was a primary concern, he explained, "especially since we were engaging targets within our own country. We engage isolated structures only, away from populated areas."

More than 10,600 bombs have been dropped and 4,600 targets destroyed, he said. The PAF has flown more than 500 F-16 sorties with the DB-110 pod, and 650 with the Star Safire EO/IR sensor on the C-130.

The statistics may impress but while Suleiman claimed that "we've broken the back of militants in the Fata," he also warned that offensive military engagement could only accomplish" 10 to 15 percent" of the task of pacifying the tribal areas. The rest must be done by dialogue, winning hearts and minds through economic development of these very poor regions, he said.

In his presentation, Air Chief Marshall did not mention the Selex Galileo Falco UAV. However, Pakistan was the first customer for the reconnaissance drone, which carries the Anglo-Italian company's own electro-optical/infrared sensor ball.

Suleiman later told AIN that there had been problems with the UAV's data link, caused partly by terrain masking. "Then we put in a relay station and started flying it higher, so now we are using it more," he continued.

Courtesy: The News

And after all this US says every time "do more"
 
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@Mosamania your comment really made my day. I hope this Jet lives up to this name, over the course of it's lifespan. I personally feel that it's a huge mistake that many Muslim countries in the Middle East/Western Asiatic region either have compromised US-origin fleets, or really outdated Soviet-era aircraft. As an Egyptian brother said in the previous pages - if you arm yourself with weapons from your enemy's best friend(USA), you can't really pick&choose.

The JF17 offers an affordable, AND highly effective aircraft. China's latest frontline weapons suite is integrated with the aircraft, and their weapons are pretty advanced. The SD-10B BVR missile has better performance characteristics than Russian R-77s, even Janes(which is a western source) reported that they considered the missile to be at par with slightly older AIM-120C AMRAAMs, but behind the latest AIM-120Ds that they are developing. A HUGE advantage though, is that this BVR missile isn't likely to freeze up if Israel tries to pull some stunt. The lethal capability these aircraft offer, must enter the risk-reward calculus of any would-be aggressor. Behind all the media hype Israel creates around itself, they really are cowards who never come to a fair fight, where there's a real risk they might get beaten too.

We saw this for ourselves, when they came to attack Pakistan's nuclear plants at Kahuta, but saw we were prepared(Saudi AWACS had detected them over the Indian Ocean, and warned us) and chickened out and stayed on the Indian side of the border. Perhaps they still remember the 100% kill-ratio Pakistani pilots achieved against Israel in previous Arab-Israeli wars(shot down all Israeli aircraft engaged, without loosing a single one).

And Saudis are bashed in this Forum whenever there is a chance.
 
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17 November 2011

New Dh1b venue for next Dubai Airshow

The next edition of the biennial Dubai Airshow will be much bigger than this year as the mega event will get a brand new venue in 2013 and a Dh1 billion investment has been announced for the relocation of the show.

The new venue will encompass a larger area than the current facility and will consist of a grand reception building, two large exhibition halls, and static display areas, which will offer more space to accommodate additional aircraft.

“The move of Dubai Airshow 2013 to Dubai World Central is an example of Dubai’s long-term plan to meet the growing demands of the industry,” Shaikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman, Dubai Aviation City Corporation, said in a statement.

Dubai World Central is one of the most ambitious projects of its kind in the world comprising the new Al Maktoum International Airport, set to be the world’s largest in volume and size upon completion, and the adjacent specialised free zones focused on logistics sectors and aviation industries.

“Dubai World Central is an integral component of the strategic vision of Dubai Government to establish the emirate as an international aviation hub and a gateway to global markets,” Shaikh Ahmed said.

The 2011 airshow, which is dominated by Emirates airline’s $18 billion deal, has recorded $47 billion orders and three times more than the tally of the last show, according to the organiser.

The next airshow will be one of many new superlatives, according to an analyst. “A bigger footprint, a bigger show site with more room for international guests and companies to showcase their businesses — it would be reckless of us to dismiss these ambitions,” FBE Aerospace founder and chief analyst Saj Ahmad told Khaleej Times.

“While we may have been accustomed to the usual show gatherings at Farnborough and Le Bourget (Paris), Dubai’s airshow is the hub for all of the growth we’re seeing in the Mideast and its little wonder that this Dh1 billion investment is just the first of many tranches to make the new venue a centrepiece not just for the UAE, but as an icon and benchmark for global aviation,” he added.

New Dh1b venue for next Dubai Airshow
 
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