Dragging Pak Army Into Asia Case Is Regrettable Do Not Force Us To Undertake Decisive Step : DG ISPR

[Lincoln]

Not when you incite soldiers to kill their chief! Its been three days and there is NO action.

Except that there's been indeed action; not the kind of action we wanted, but some form of action. Ultimately it comes down to Government, the Government has decided it wants to take course through diplomatic channels first; that's the action. The Army cannot come on its own without Government's orders.

 

[doorstar]

Not when you incite soldiers to kill their chief! Its been three days and there is NO action.

don't despair, hindu agents are trying their best to start a civil war but these here uncooperative Pakistani authorities are just not obliging, don't blame yourself just keep trying.

إِنَّ اللّهَ مَعَ الصَّابِرِينَ​

 

[padamchen]

No it's hafiz saeed who is controlling everything

We understand we are the enemy. So will need to wait for the CJP to give us justice.

Cheers, Doc

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Aoa

This is the kind of wording I was waiting for. The military has taken notice and will likely deal with this properly.

People who want there to be a bloodbath would probably be disappointed, however, anyone who remembers how they dealt with MQM and TTP knows that iur military has a different approach compared to some others now.

Killing a bunch of protesters would just create pointless martyrs - Model Town incident like. Why should they send in soldiers to potentially cause a complicated situation to arise why they can use the Intelligence apparatus at their disposal to do it discreetly.

As for the wording, this is the harshest I've seen in a long time. So, going by the wording, my guess is that the military leadership has taken a serious notice of this and are not easily going to let this fly.

Our military has learnt it's lesson for the Bangladesh episode. They prefer to talk diplomatically and prefer to act discreetly. It has especially been the case recently - and they seem to have finally mastered it.

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[Maxpane]

This is beyond heart breaking....

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where is government?

 

[Lincoln]

Who are you kidding? They started the waziristan operation without govt approval. Whats stopping them here? What action has been taken till now, do enlighten me. Had this been said by a politician he would have been behind bars. Gafoor would have taken an hour to condemn the politican and the Chief Justice would have taken suo moto action against the politician. The duplicity in actions is so very obvious and for every one to see...

Obviously you're an Indian who believes the Army is a state within a state. Those days are long gone, clear tone in Army's ways have been seen.

The Waziristan Operation was not conducted without Government Approval and neither was Karachi cleanup operation conducted without Sindh Government approval.

The situation is volatile; Ghafoor took his time to condemn and did so with a very well constructed statement. The situation is no where near to a politician or any singular individuality saying such statements as 'Kill the Chief Justice, Army Chief...', instead it's an angry mob in the whole country who are supporting this guy and are out on the streets, you have to be careful when dealing with such a situation.

Lastly, this doesn't really concern you or your state matters, does it?

In the meanwhile......

12 minutes ago
Multiple motorways in Punjab blocked due to protests
The route from Peshawar to Islamabad via Motorway M-1 is blocked for all kinds of traffic. The motorway is open for commuters travelling from Islamabad to Peshawar.

Motorways M-2 from Islamabad to Lahore, M-3 from Pindi Bhattian to Faisalabad and M-4 from Faisalabad to Gojra are blocked due to protests.


Motorway Police@motorwaypolice1

موٹروے M1 پشاور سےاسلام آباد۔M2 اسلام آباد سے لاھور۔M3 پنڈی بھٹیاں سے فیصل آباد۔ M4 فیصل آباد سے گوجرہ ہر قسم کی ٹریفک کیلئے بند۔

جبکہ M1 اسلام آباد سے پشاور ٹریفک کا داخلہ جاری۔ #TrafficAlert #TrafficUpdate #MotorwayPolice

12:38 PM - Nov 2, 2018


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Thanks for the update, but we don't need an Indian here telling us who is incompetent and who isn't competent, who needs to do what and how, because nobody likes when someone from outside to whom it doesn't concern joins the argument, kindly leave for another thread. <3

 

[SunilM]

The situation is versatile

Khuda ka khauf kar. You meant 'fluid'! I have told you to write in vernacular.

 

[doorstar]

Lastly, this doesn't really concern you or your state matters, does it?

It most certainly does, hence him continuously crying. no blood bath is a colossal failure for his country!

 

[Lincoln]

Khuda ka khauf kar. You meant 'fluid'! I have told you to write in vernacular.

volatile* : )

 

[PakSword]

Warnings are fine. This is always the strategy of any sane government when such protests start. They give enough time to the general public to realize that the protesters are on the wrong side. An early operation doesn't expose the protesters enough to devoid them of public support. That's why peaceful protests are always better which continue to get more support from masses.

When I look at different forums and the videos coming out lately, I am seeing a change in change in public support. Now even those people who were sympathetic towards the protesters are now against them. Also the number of protesters is going down continuously because poor people and daily bread earners can't continue leaving there work. Also the illiterates who can't read are also getting a chance of hearing the contradictions pointed out by the court in their local language, and they are starting to slowly process the information.

A couple of days later, the remaining protesters will be the real hardliners who will be removed forcefully. We know that public property is on stake but imagine the situation if governed had taken decisive actin on first or second day. More public property would have been destroyed.

I think the operation will not begin till Monday. Today people take half day, tomorrow and Sunday is weekend. So protesters will still have support. Monday afternoon will be the right time to start a Crack down.

 

[RescueRanger]

DGISPR is right, i blame the bastards in main stream media. This is a very clever and calculated plot to weaken the image of the army! Please Pakistanis, if you are on Twitter or any other platform counter these liffafa journalists with dual nationalities and fork tongues!

 

[doorstar]

Warnings are fine. This is always the strategy of any sane government when such protests start. They give enough time to the general public to realize that the protesters are on the wrong side. An early operation doesn't expose the protesters enough to devoid them of public support. That's why peaceful protests are always better which continue to get more support from masses.

When I look at different forums and the videos coming out lately, I am seeing a change in change in public support. Now even those people who were sympathetic towards the protesters are now against them. Also the number of protesters is going down continuously because poor people and daily bread earners can't continue leaving there work. Also the illiterates who can't read are also getting a chance of hearing the contradictions pointed out by the court in their local language, and they are starting to slowly process the information.

A couple of days later, the remaining protesters will be the real hardliners who will be removed forcefully. We know that public property is on stake but imagine the situation if governed had taken decisive actin on first or second day. More public property would have been destroyed.

I think the operation will not begin till Monday. Today people take half day, tomorrow and Sunday is weekend. So protesters will still have support. Monday afternoon will be the right time to start a Crack down.

all of the protesters are not religious nut-jobs, they join in the hope that in-case of riot they'll be able to rob and loot shops etc. It used to happen in UK where criminals would join protests then cause riots, then commit robberies but police never shot them, just took pictures then later hunt them down and lock them up like the wild animals that they were.

 

[RescueRanger]

all of the protesters are not religious nut-jobs, they join in the hope that in-case of riot they'll be able to rob and loot shops etc. It used to happen in UK where criminals would join protests then cause riots, then commit robberies but police never shot them, just took pictures then later hunt them down and lock them up like the wild animals that they were.

Yeah, please don't think protests in Pakistan are anywhere as timid as the ones in the U.K. What you are referring to is intelligence gathering for post incident arrests, that cannot happen due to the shear size of the protests.

UK police are not routinely armed, you have authorized firearms officers which are force resource covering the entire force area, if god forbid the UK had a similar outbreak of Public order, the only choice you would have is to roll out the army.

Just like your P.M. did when she initiated Operation Temperer in May 2017.

 

[doorstar]

Just like your P.M. did when she initiated Operation Temperer in May 2017.

Operation Temperer is a permanent plan to deploy troops to support police officers following an Islamist terror attack and can only be triggered following a COBRA meeting, it's not for rioters.

 

[RescueRanger]

Operation Temperer is a permanent plan to deploy troops to support police officers following an Islamist terror attack.

Incorrect!