Don’t use the K word

[JonAsad]

well if you think a non muslim is a kafir than why do you think marking his coffin as kafir is wrong

i said it before bro, because of the intentions.

 

[JonAsad]

Kafir is an Arabic word and is in the Quran. The word "kafir" means unbeliever. hindus dont believe in Islam, Christianity, Sabians, or Judaism so hindus are kafirs (unbelievers).

Bro when we say believers, what exactly do we mean?
Believe in what?

Believe in Allah, one and only.
Believe in Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w)
Believe in Holy Books
Believe in Angels
Believe in Life after Death.

Thats Eman e Mufasil.
Isnt it?

In Quran Yahood wa Nasara are mentioned as Kafirs.

Quran calls the kafirs as YA AIUHAL KAFIRON, its a holy book ment for all mankind, so its specificaly cannot only refer to hindus. Thats the key. The quran has mentioned yahoods more time than any other religion, and yes as kafirons.

In Surah e Kafiron, its is said that what you believe in i dont believe in it, what you worship i dont worship it,

Lakum deenakum Wal yadin.

Holy Prophet (SAW) was adressing the kaffirs of Makkah in this surah, which included christians and jews. These christians and jews did not believe in Holy Prophet and thats what that surah is all about.

So they are unbelievers aswell.

So i disagree with you completely.
The word kafir is ment for all non-muslims not specificaly for hindus.

Ahl al-Kitab is also an Arabic word and is in the Quran. The word Ahl al-Kitab means People of the Book. The three faiths that are mentioned in the Quran as people of the book are Judaism, Sabians, and Christianity.

I agree they are ahl al-kitab, but they are unbelievers hence non muslims hence kafirs aswell.

 

[Omar1984]

^ From the Holy Quran:


And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. '(3:199)'


Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . [Qur'an 2:62]

 

[friendly_troll96]

There is a word for muslims in Hindi "Malechchha". Do you think we should use that word.

Lol sounds odd and funny like any other Hindi word; go use it and help bring back pure Hindi!

kundli, jotshi, fainka, ijjat, pati, jaroorat, fatka, bhavashvaani, janta, jyada.

 

[anurag_singh]

that is what the problem is, you see you have aword for muslims in hindi, a special word for muslims, when ever you will use it you will ment an insult.
that is the difference, we dont call a hindu something or a sikh something or a christian some thing, we call every person who is not a muslim, a kafir which translates into english as non-muslim,

now can you please tell me what the word Malechchha translates into

Actually it's meaning is non-hindu. It means "Adharmi" , who doesn't follow Dharm(Hinduism). People also use this word as a synonym of "Impure".

 

[JonAsad]

^ From the Holy Quran:


And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. '(3:199)'


Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . [Qur'an 2:62]

When the Quran was completed on 27th Ramzan, the last ayah revealed were "al youma akmaltu lakum deenakum ......"
"This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islâm as your religion" Surah Al-Ma’idah, 5: 3

The chosen religion is Islam bro, thats the benchmark and Islam says that Prophet Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.

Christians and Jews dont believe that, so they are unbelievers hence Kafirs.

Plus they are Mushrikeens and Munafiqeens aswell.

 

[anurag_singh]

Lol sounds odd and funny like any other Hindi word; go use it and help bring back pure Hindi!

kundli, jotshi, fainka, ijjat, pati, jaroorat, fatka, bhavashvaani, janta, jyada.

Why do I use it. I know that it is a derogatory word so I can't use it. And please don't go on language bullshit everybody finds other people's language funny.

 

[JonAsad]

Actually it's meaning is non-hindu. It means "Adharmi" , who doesn't follow Dharm(Hinduism).

I dont find it offensive at all.
I am a proud Adharmi
You should be a proud Kafir

Seriously,
No offense please.
Peace.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Why do I use it. I know that it is a derogatory word so I can't use it. And please don't go on language bullshit everybody finds other people's language funny.

No, not everybody.
Some find other people’s language derogatory even when it is not!

 

[Luftwaffe]

Urbanized Greyhound...

your logic is flawed and stupid..if Arab Muslims population is less do you want non Arab Muslims to stop praying because arab population is less so don't pray don't recite verses in arabic..

Get over with it man, be positive Kafir = Non Muslims nothing else.
Regardless of the % of population using the word in another sense does not make sense therefore those people are stupid to use Kafir = disrespect I would call them illiterate nothing else so you should ignore them same as you people call us non-hindu, should I take it offensive?

Moderators close the thread its getting messy.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Kafir isnt a insulting word... except for the black people living in s.africa but anyways if somebdy doesnt like it... why use it?
One should respect other people and their feelings.

 

[Al-zakir]

The Quran uses ‘kafir’ for those who deny the Truth or the unity of God.

Obviously we do not want to bury a Hindu person with Islamic way.

It also mean cover up something. The world kafir is not really bad but it made to sound bad by some people.

 

[deep.ocean]

There is no wrong n using word Kaffir for Non Muslims... I don't feel it's so offending as word like "Kathuwa" used in North India for our beloved neighbours...

 

[EjazR]

Kafir is an Arabic word meaning NON MUSLIM.

Kafir comes from the root word meaning rejection. Literally means rejector.

Kafir does not mean non-muslims or unbeliever.

The correct word to use for non-muslim would be ghair-muslim.

 

[Ganguly]

Try to understand. Do we call a black people Negro anymore? Similarly, with progress of civilization we should use alternative polite words to depict the same meaning, without being harsh to anyone. We should understand people’s sentiment and make efforts not to offend them. But all these common-sense come along with education. You cannot enforce people to use polite words.