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DOKLAM standoff, China doesn't want peace

Modi, when he was told by his General that Chinese troops have arrived with shock & Awe type weapons:


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"Many hospitals in different provinces are controlling the use of blood, and according to a reliable anonymous source from a hospital in Changsha, capital of Hunan Province, the blood bank has been relocated by the PLA and the local government is organizing a blood drive to replenish supplies.

The same is also true of some other top hospitals in Hubei Province, and Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, according to multiple sources from these regions.

The stocks of blood were transferred before the Jiuzhaigou earthquake in Sichuan Province on August 8, and they are likely to be transferred to Tibet, the source told the Global Times."


This is getting serious. Chinese are preparing for all eventualities quietly. One can sense that preparations is well underway. Its only matter of time when hammer hits the nail. Its the same situation when Saddam captured Kuwait, and it took some time for the allied forces to prepare and then decimate Saddam's Army. And on the other hand, Indians are chest thumping and mocking.
 
Chinese are always arguing how they will do this and that, they never focus on what India can do back. Let's hypothetically say that we return only 70% of the damage, whoever thinks that would be acceptable damage to them? Like how come Chinese jokers talk about '1 megaton' bombs in Delhi. Sure, a retaliatory 80 KT bomb on bejeing is smaller than 1 MT but will an explosion 4 times the size of Hiroshima be acceptable to them only because it is 20% smaller than what they dropped on Delhi?

"Many hospitals in different provinces are controlling the use of blood, and according to a reliable anonymous source from a hospital in Changsha, capital of Hunan Province, the blood bank has been relocated by the PLA and the local government is organizing a blood drive to replenish supplies.

The same is also true of some other top hospitals in Hubei Province, and Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, according to multiple sources from these regions.

The stocks of blood were transferred before the Jiuzhaigou earthquake in Sichuan Province on August 8, and they are likely to be transferred to Tibet, the source told the Global Times."


This is getting serious. Chinese are preparing for all eventualities quietly. One can sense that preparations is well underway. Its only matter of time when hammer hits the nail. Its the same situation when Saddam captured Kuwait, and it took some time for the allied forces to prepare and then decimate Saddam's Army. And on the other hand, Indians are chest thumping and mocking.

And I could also see you get a boner quietly.....

Yes. Your Modiji is so mighty we need to nuke Delhi for him ;)

and we'll nuke Bejeing for you too.
 
China is more than capable of defeating India in potential military conflict with its advanced weapons and air bases, analysts said on Wednesday.

According to a Reuters report on Wednesday, a source in New Delhi, who had been briefed on the military situation on the border, said soldiers foiled a bid by a group of Chinese troops to enter Indian territory in Ladakh, near Pangong Lake. Some of the Chinese soldiers carried iron rods and stones, and troops on both sides suffered minor injuries in the melee.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying on Wednesday did not directly answer a question on whether the friction in Ladakh is connected to the Doklam standoff. She reaffirmed China's position that the withdrawal of the Indian troops in Doklam is the precondition to solving the problem.

"This means that even when India withdraws its troops from the Doklam Plateau, China will not let the matter drop, because withdrawal is just the precondition, not the solution. China will still make India pay for its offensive and provocative behavior even if India withdraws its troops as China requests," Ye Hailin, director of the National Institute of International Strategy, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times.


"We don't want the upcoming BRICS summit to be disrupted. The BRICS summit should be focused on cooperation between rising economies, not an emergency multilateral meeting for conflict mediation. If India keeps its troops in Chinese territory, China's foreign and defense ministries are very likely to release an ultimatum before September," Xu Guangyu, a retired rear admiral and senior adviser to the China Arms Control and Disarmament Association, told the Global Times.

"The ultimatum will clearly tell India and the world that China will give a certain number of days to India to withdraw its troops. After the deadline, if Indian troops still remain within China's territory, India will be responsible for all the consequences. China has multiple ways of pushing India back to its own soil if India ignores the ultimatum, as a few dozen military personnel and one bulldozer [in Doklam] is a piece of cake for the Chinese military," Xu said.

China should prepare for the possibility of escalation, because Indian troops will resist, and if there is bloodshed, China needs to be fully prepared for military conflict. The People's Liberation Army (PLA) is more than capable of dealing with any escalation, Xu further said.

Military preparation

In general, the quality of Chinese weapons and military personnel is overwhelmingly better than India's, and though India has purchased some US and Russian-made weapons in recent years, the PLA's advantage remains the same, said Song Zhongping, a military expert who served in the PLA Rocket Force.

Air forces, helicopters, long-range attack weapons and light armored vehicles are very important for combat in mountainous and plateau regions. In the air, China's J-10C and J-11 fighter jets, H-6K bombers, Z-10 attack helicopters and other types of transport helicopters, no matter the quality or quantity, are all better than India's, Song said.

China's long-range rocket artillery is not only better than India's, but is the best in the world. The rocket boasts a terminal guidance function, which means it can search for its target before it strikes. Although one rocket costs 700,000 yuan ($104,555), it's still cheaper than a guided missile, and it has a range of more than 105 kilometers. With this kind of weaponry, the geographic barriers of mountains and plateaus are not an obstacle for the PLA to destroy its enemy, Song said.

India might think that the Chinese air force doesn't have enough air bases in the Tibet Autonomous Region, but they are seriously mistaken, Xu said. According to open information, China has at least five large airports in Tibet, and the furthest one from Doklam is only 1,000 kilometers away. The combat radius of J-10C and J-11 planes is more than 1,200 kilometers, so the Indian military had better abandon their illusions, he stressed.

In Tibet, civilian airports can also be used for military aircraft.

Many hospitals in different provinces are controlling the use of blood, and according to a reliable anonymous source from a hospital in Changsha, capital of Hunan Province, the blood bank has been relocated by the PLA and the local government is organizing a blood drive to replenish supplies.

The same is also true of some other top hospitals in Hubei Province, and Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, according to multiple sources from these regions.

The stocks of blood were transferred before the Jiuzhaigou earthquake in Sichuan Province on August 8, and they are likely to be transferred to Tibet, the source told the Global Times.


http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1061696.shtml



These complete and utter fools, they really are talking themselves into a conflict. At every opportunity they have chosen to escalate rather than look for a peaceful resolution and now they are saying that even if India withdraws unilateraly that the PLA will "punish" India anyway? They are not creating a win-win opportunity, I thought the Chinese were meant to be smart?

I can't tell if the people running this in China are complete morons or so entirely consumed by their own propoganda that they really are this out of touch.

They also can't keep their story straight, one moment they claim India has deployed 100s of troops to the area now they are saying there are just a "few dozen troops and a bulldozer".

Alas, with each passing day these clowns humiliate themselves more and more.

The problem is their attitude!
No matter what we should teach the Chinese bullies such a lesson that they never again bully anybody again.
 
Mentioning the use of air force is getting indians scared. I knew it:rolleyes:

Funny that Indians keep saying this isn’t 1962 anymore, yet somehow they expect the upcoming war will be fought in full 1962 style, with just foot soldiers exchanging bullets :lol:
 
The problem is their attitude!
No matter what we should teach the Chinese bullies such a lesson that they never again bully anybody again.

This is more to do with their internal political posturing.

Seven of the largest CCP leaders are pitching their show of power through such maneuvers, including some former presidents as well.

Xi is eyeing for greater power through encouraging such adventurism across the neighbourhood, the most peaceful being the Indo-Tibetan and the Bhutanese borders. So it makes sense to rattle sabres in the most peaceful areas rather than risk a conflict in the more volatile SCS area.
 
Mentioning the use of air force is getting indians scared. I knew it:rolleyes:

Funny that Indians keep saying this isn’t 1962 anymore, yet somehow they expect the upcoming war will be fought in full 1962 style, with just foot soldiers exchanging bullets :lol:
Do you see any Indians scared of China anymore?

You guys have truly blown your credibility, 55 days (and counting) and all you have done is issue countless "threats" to India. It's all just hot air.
 
And on the other hand, Indians are chest thumping and mocking.

If you really think that our military preparations are based on the jeering comments that are made here on PDF or online, then you are so wrong. In fact, it is very surprising that both of you think that our army's decisions are based on what common civilians think; this reflects a shallow understanding of your enemy.

Preparation will always be there on both sides quietly, while diplomats do their jobs and try to negotiate a mutually acceptable way out without needless economic slowdown due to wars.
 
And I could also see you get a boner quietly.....

Leave me or Pakistan aside, what you lot been doing against these Chinese preparation except honking non sense via your hindu bakht and Sanhge brigade on the internet and social media?
 
Excellent. Let it all out.

We recently send five of your sweethearts to hell while they bleated like dying little lambs, throwing away their AK-47s and other weapons and pleading.

More soon to be dispatched to hell.

Keep dancing in China's shadows for all we care.

In fact, nothing would please us more than you guys getting deeper into public debt with the Chinese. They already overwhelming dominance as the single largest lender to Sri Lanka. Soon you will overtake the Lankans with the completion of CPEC. Sri Lanka has a stable economy, excellent interior security and has friendly relations with all; characteristics of a nation which can afford to diversify its investments and credit borrowing portfolio.

What would you have to offer once your traders have to shut shops when they are out of work due to mass influx of Chinese factory made goods? You will become an economic colony for China. Doesn't make any difference to us.

Happy re-colonisation.

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Were good!!! Kashmir is on the boil nicely, india is turning hindutva and our economic plans with our allies are our business :coffee:

We have an existing emnity with india and in reality we are fighting a pseudo war, as Pakistan grows so does our ability to hurt india

China, alongside Turkey, GCC, our indigenous efforts and new Islamic Alliance being built up are some of the pillars of our present and future defence strategy

China has always been incredibly open and giving, at a cost of course but as they get agitated by india I gurantee they will look to Pakistan as a way to harm and push india.

We hate Indian's anyway and we are currently in the process of utilising this new emnity between india and china to further our cause and weapons purchases and technology available to us
 

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