does israel have the right to exist?

[qamar1990]

I am not sure whether I am allowed to have analogy but try to re-frame the question by replacing Israel with Pakistan and Jews with Indian Subcontinent Muslims.

first of all thank you for your answer…
second…. if everybody in the world was as smart as you, we would still be in the stone ages..

Islam was not originated in current Pakistan

it sure didn't ,your point is??

Most of the pakistanis currently living in pakistan were not ancestry living there. They came from various other regions, Afghas, Bihar, UP, Bengal, Hyderabad etc etc

where did you come up with that one??
let me just give you one example my people the punjabis make up 50 percent of pakistanis population and we are all from punjab….
muhajirs or people that came from india make up around 15 percent of the total population the rest of us are all native to these lands…

Islam has different version across the world and have different sect too.

what does this have to do with the topic? aren't you supposed to be unbiased? you better change your name.. your ignorance is clouding your judgement..

Most importantly Pakistan was created on the pretense that muslims of Indian subcontinent need separate homeland.

yes it was… and your point is……?

BTW, i have given my answer as Yes. So I am not against creation.

so since your answer is yes why don't you answer me 2 question…
why should israel have been created?
why did the jews not get a homeland where majority of them are from?[/quote][/quote]

 

[ashok321]

If white colonialism is bad in india, bad in africa then why support it in Palestine

You call it colonialism?
Is Israel a Colonian power?
I will reserve my "LOL" till your reply kicked in...

 

[qamar1990]

The chick in second pic is.

On the topic,,,the world is not a just place,whosoever is powerful can do anything he/she pleases.
Its always like this and will always be like it

i understand that….
the poll question i asked was should israel have been created? and you voted yes..
so why should that country have been created when over 80 percent of its population comes from europe?

does israel have the right to exist?
YES

the question is
should israel have been created?

To study is Jihad?
Charity is Zakat/Sadaqah which is incorporated in Islam.

Who are you trying to fool here?

are you debating about what jihad is??
its off topic and open a separate thread for it..

 

[hussain0216]

Assumption is the mother of all the mess-ups..

Ok so considering you have no understanding of the freedom struggles in india, africa or beyond

it better explains why you are so callous towards the freedom struggle for Palestine

 

[ashok321]

the question is
should israel have been created?

.

 

[qamar1990]

Yup. Culprit is always anyone but Muslims. Muslims are always the victims

culprit is anybody spreading mischief… for example israel in palestine… india in kashmir… the thing is your indians have no choice but support a country like israel because by going against them you atrocities in kashmir become illegitimate.
a sane minded person can never support a country like israel yet you people do so shamelessly…

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read the original post lol….. i stated why i chose that title…
read the original post before you start trolling…

 

[ashok321]

Ok so considering you have no understanding of the freedom struggles in india, africa or beyond

it better explains why you are so callous towards the freedom struggle for Palestine

Keep that consideration in your own pocket, not needed...
You do not know nothing about me.
Points to ponder, once again, don't assume things beyond reasonable cognizance of your own...

culprit is anybody spreading mischief… for example israel in palestine… india in kashmir… the thing is your indians have no choice but support a country like israel because by going against them you atrocities in kashmir become illegitimate.
a sane minded person can never support a country like israel yet you people do so shamelessly…


read the original post lol….. i stated why i chose that title…
read the original post before you start trolling…

So live with your choice..

 

[qamar1990]

So live with your choice..

okaaaaaaay……..lolz

You call it colonialism?
Is Israel a Colonian power?
I will reserve my "LOL" till your reply kicked in...

israel colonized palestine…that is no secret
please don't tell us that your actually this stupid..

israel if far from being a "power" it can barely handle a bunch ragtag freedom fighters never mind a well trained army…

 

[hussain0216]

You call it colonialism?
Is Israel a Colonian power?
I will reserve my "LOL" till your reply kicked in...

Polish Netenyahu, Moldovan FM white europeans turning up in the middle east pretending to be more middle eastern then the middle easterners

Yep its colonialism all right and no support from powerfull states makes it anymore right then saying the britsh empire has the right to occupy indiacor africa because it brings Christian civilisation to the heathens

 

[qamar1990]

What a stupid thread. As if a poll on a Pakistani forum about existence of Israel is going to make any difference to Israel or its existence

the poll is weather israel should have been created? its not about destroying israel…
btw there is a reason your on this pakistani forum because it better then any piece of tray forum indians run lol….
never mind forums even your news channels and papers behave like tabloids..

Yes you have been answered.

A large part of the 56% is the Negev Desert, considered useless at the time.
The Arabs opposed the creation of the state of Israel.
On top of that, the Arabs did not develop an alternative partitioning so that left
the UN general Assembly to vote yes/no instead of between alternatives.
The Arabs lost the vote, and did not accept that, went to war and lost.

After the war, Arabs refused to discuss peace, but has gradually come to the conclusion
that it is in their best interest. Once Arabs in Gaza come to the same conclusion,
and convince Israelis that they are serious, hopefully Israelis can vote a peace friendly govt in place.

the fact of the matter is that israelis are overwhelmingly europeans.. they have no business being in israel to begin with make any laws you want but history will show israel and its supporters as tyrants…

 

[he-man]

i understand that….
the poll question i asked was should israel have been created? and you voted yes..
so why should that country have been created when over 80 percent of its population comes from europe?


the question is
should israel have been created?


are you debating about what jihad is??
its off topic and open a separate thread for it..

Ok my answer is solely based on the india-israel relationship.
Israel has been an immense help to india in the defence sector,,,so i guess its existence has benefitted my country.

Thats all to the reason for my yes dude

 

[ashok321]

Polish Netenyahu, Moldovan FM white europeans turning up in the middle east pretending to be more middle eastern then the middle easterners

Yep its colonialism all right and no support from powerfull states makes it anymore right then saying the britsh empire has the right to occupy indiacor africa because it brings Christian civilisation to the heathens

You know Azad Kashmir = Pakistan occupied Kashmir = Well known phrase?
It does mean that Pakistan is a colonial power?
Need some knowledge punishment you..

 

[qamar1990]

This is a religious war. The Muslims here are too chickenshit to admit it. So of course all proposals are going to be unpalatable to the Israelis and the US.

if religion had any role in it then jews would get slaughtered like pigs all over the world…don't you think??
don't tell me that you also believe muslim immigrants in europe and america are planning to take over the west as well? lol
@WebMaster what kind of professional is this clown?? i really feel sorry for america if you are in any way associated with any of our law enforcement or security agencies..
the only role religion plays here is that palestinians get above average sympathy from us because they are muslims.

 

[ashok321]

okaaaaaaay……..lolz


israel colonized palestine…that is no secret
please don't tell us that your actually this stupid..

israel if far from being a "power" it can barely handle a bunch ragtag freedom fighters never mind a well trained army…

So you could not determine eventually the true meaning of "colonial power" and time passing here with heavy weights....
You lack the quality, how to debate.

 

[Shanba]

A thread full of islamic bigotry and more importantly,it's impotence.