does israel have the right to exist?

[he-man]

the title was just to get your attention..
now lets discuss.

israel was founded in 1948 on the pretense as the homeland for jews and since then jews from all over the world have migrated to this country because it has been made as homeland for the jews.

-who are the jews?? and where do they come from?
jews are people who are born into jewish families or practice the jewish faith.
they come from all over the world like any major religious group.

-did the jews originate from israel??
we know that the religion was founded in modern day israel, but the modern jews at least the vast majority of them have no connection to the land of israel besides the fact that their religion was founded their.
jews are not an ethnicity as many would like us to think nor do they all originate from the tribe or judah or any of the other tribes.
few examples to show the different jews in their original countries.

chinese jews

persian jews

russian jew

nigerian jews

ethiopian jews

indian jews

yemeni jews

we can clearly see that all these jews are different and their ancestors most likely just converted to the jewish faith, non of these people can most likely trace their ancestry to israel.

with that being said.

the most important question….

should israel have been created???
-why?
-why not?

what can we say about the modern conflict " israel vs palestine"?
who has the right to the lands in modern day israel and palestine?
if these modern day jews don't originate from israel then why do they claim ownership of israel?
if you believe these jews are the original inhabitants of these lands then who are the palestinains?
and what shall be done with the palestinians?
what can be the solution for the both people?
does one of the 2 groups have to leave?

The chick in second pic is.

On the topic,,,the world is not a just place,whosoever is powerful can do anything he/she pleases.
Its always like this and will always be like it

 

[ashok321]

Like study, give charity etc You are not going to understand it, just get this jihad doesn't gives you the permission to kill innocents.

To study is Jihad?
Charity is Zakat/Sadaqah which is incorporated in Islam.

Who are you trying to fool here?

 

[karan.1970]

Jihad in Islam mean to struggle in the way of Allah not go and kill people. This idea has been misused by people and then idiots like CIA trained them and then branded them terrorists. You can see who's the real culprit here.

Yup. Culprit is always anyone but Muslims. Muslims are always the victims

 

[ashok321]

Okay let's forget about Pakis, what about Arabs then?

does israel have the right to exist?
YES

 

[hussain0216]

good luck with it then and keep this attitude but remmeber no one will have any pity / sympathy or remose when a person / quam keeps on repaeting the same mistakes over and over again when the other side will retaliate cause opporteunity dosent comes twice ... good luck

Calling resistance to occupation a mistake is a cowards statement

which resistance movement was painless andblood less and ooccurred overnight


We all know why Indians support israel



but from quest for freedom in south asia to south africa there was pain abuse and slaughter and it took many many years



Muslims have no option but to resist and fight back and for people like you to stand on the sidelines calling for occupation and surrender is slap in the face of every resistance figure in history

 

[karan.1970]

yet you bothered to check

I find stupidity on a Pakistani forum very amusing

 

[hussain0216]

does israel have the right to exist?
YES

But why do you as a Indian believe that when a white colonial israel is no different or less brutal then a white colonial British empire in India

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Then stop justifying them. Someone else told this before too in the thread but I guess you are too lazy to read. Suppose that Zionists announced that your country was their land, they all start migration to your land. Then they say they want to create their own state, kick out the native population create their own state in which they have more land then the native people, superpowers support them and then say all we wanted was peace. How the bloody hell could you have achieved peace after all of this?

Read and answered!
Go back and read my answer.

 

[ashok321]

But why do you as a Indian believe that when a white colonial israel is no different or less brutal then a white colonial British empire in India

First of all, do not be personal.
Did I ever question your nationality?
Then, How the heck do you know I am an Indian?
Any proof?

I do not possess any Indian Passport..
So?

 

[karan.1970]

But why do you as a Indian believe that when a white colonial israel is no different or less brutal then a white colonial British empire in India

So your definition of bad is white ? A little stupid thinking.. no ?

 

[GURU DUTT]

So your definition of bad is white ? A little stupid thinking.. no ?

and by that defination we baniya hindus like me are all very pios and good people cause we are having "dark complexion"

 

[hussain0216]

First of all, do not be personal.
Did I ever question your nationality?
Then, How the heck do you know I am an Indian?
Any proof?

I do not possess any Indian Passport..
So?

Yes but assuming you understand resistance in India, south africa, Palestine is all about the same thing resistance against occupation land theft and resources then denying Palestine is denying all resistance movements

 

[qamar1990]

Do all Muslims in Pakistan originate from Pakistan ?

yes over 85 percent of them do?? any doubts?

 

[hussain0216]

So your definition of bad is white ? A little stupid thinking.. no ?

If white colonialism is bad in india, bad in africa then why support it in Palestine

 

[ashok321]

Yes but assuming you understand resistance in India, south africa, Palestine is all about the same thing resistance against occupation land theft and resources then denying Palestine is denying all resistance movements

Assumption is the mother of all the mess-ups..