does israel have the right to exist?

[A.P. Richelieu]

Are you people dumb? You only talk about war, religious war, war, religious war blahhhhhh. Don't you guys understand that Muslims or Palestinians never opposed the creation of Israel at the time of creation but they opposed how was it created. To every three of you I have asked that 30% gets 56% of land and 70% gets 44% of land, how's that fair? How did you supposed the Palestinians would react? How did you suppose the Muslim world would react? You all failed to answer, it's clear who's the chickenshit or whatever you want to call it. All this has brought you and the Israelis to a point where even most Muslim kids hate you. You guys only know what your media shows you.

Yes you have been answered.

A large part of the 56% is the Negev Desert, considered useless at the time.
The Arabs opposed the creation of the state of Israel.
On top of that, the Arabs did not develop an alternative partitioning so that left
the UN general Assembly to vote yes/no instead of between alternatives.
The Arabs lost the vote, and did not accept that, went to war and lost.

After the war, Arabs refused to discuss peace, but has gradually come to the conclusion
that it is in their best interest. Once Arabs in Gaza come to the same conclusion,
and convince Israelis that they are serious, hopefully Israelis can vote a peace friendly govt in place.

 

[qamar1990]

Israel has full right to survive and answer to all the agression it has been subjected to ...we indian willalways support israel .. no matter what

stick to the topic troll and answer the questions asked no good for your bs here, we absolutely give zero fucks about what you or any of your fellow country men think about palestine or israel.

 

[Ahmad1996]

Yes you have been answered.

A large part of the 56% is the Negev Desert, considered useless at the time.
The Arabs opposed the creation of the state of Israel.
On top of that, the Arabs did not develop an alternative partitioning so that left
the UN general Assembly to vote yes/no instead of between alternatives.
The Arabs lost the vote, and did not accept that, went to war and lost.

After the war, Arabs refused to discuss peace, but has gradually come to the conclusion
that it is in their best interest. Once Arabs in Gaza come to the same conclusion,
and convince Israelis that they are serious, hopefully Israelis can vote a peace friendly govt in place.

Considered useless by them not by Palestinians, it was their land. UN has always been unfair to them and it is controlled by USA or someone considers that this land is useless so let's take it from the native population and give it to the migrants. Great logic sir and this is why people like you can't make peace.

 

[GURU DUTT]

stick to the topic troll and answer the questions asked no good for your bs here, we absolutely give zero fucks about what you or any of your fellow country men think about palestine or israel.

well the point is opinion of people like you also doesnt matter ... got it !!

thing is israel is fighting a force that has a history of making unprovoked attacks on israeli citizens and israel has every right to defend its civilliansfrom any external or internal agression just likeany other sovrieghn nation state .


the world order is about human rights not just muslim ummahs rights . get used to it . if you try to force your will on others and think that they wont retaliate you are fooling no one else but your self . and israel has mde this way to clear and hamas is responsible for deaths of so many civillianscause they started it all first by enticing passions and then showering rockets on israeli citizens

(it dosentmatters weather how manyrockets were sucsessfull in raeching there targets point is they were fired on israel from palestenian area and from launchers hidden in civillian areas specialli schools and hospitals)

and israel has every right to neutralise this threat and use force which is at its disposal .and its hamas fault they used children as human shields and had fired rockets from civillian areas (what they were thinking in retaliatio ... roses and garlands)

hamas is responsible for civillian deaths in palestine as they very well new whatwillbe israeli response and they dellibratelli put the children , women and civillians into the meat grinder to gather world sympathy but the thing is

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLEFOR SOME TIME , YOU CAN EVEN GET AWAY WITH FOOLING ALL THE PEOPLE FOR SOME TIME BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME

and hamas has learned this lesson at the cost of hundreds of civillian deaths

israel is not wrong in retaliating against agression hamas is responsible for dellibratelli enticing and leathel feud

period

 

[hussain0216]

Yes you have been answered.

A large part of the 56% is the Negev Desert, considered useless at the time.
The Arabs opposed the creation of the state of Israel.
On top of that, the Arabs did not develop an alternative partitioning so that left
the UN general Assembly to vote yes/no instead of between alternatives.
The Arabs lost the vote, and did not accept that, went to war and lost.

After the war, Arabs refused to discuss peace, but has gradually come to the conclusion
that it is in their best interest. Once Arabs in Gaza come to the same conclusion,
and convince Israelis that they are serious, hopefully Israelis can vote a peace friendly govt in place.

Why would the arabs have developed a alternative partioning why would anyone partion their land to foreigners

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Considered useless by them not by Palestinians, it was their land. UN has always been unfair to them and it is controlled by USA or someone considers that this land is useless so let's take it from the native population and give it to the migrants. Great logic sir and this is why people like you can't make peace.

As I pointed out. The right time and place to argue this is the late 40s and in the UN.

The current government of Israel has come to the conclusion that peace is not possible,
and Hamas does not have any peace in mind.

No peace, means occupation and blockade continues.

Palestinians need a new leadership which focus of the welfare of current inhabitants
instead of dreaming about a Shangri-La.

Why would the arabs have developed a alternative partioning why would anyone partion their land to foreigners

Because that is how you combat a proposal which you don't like.
Basic laws of politicians.

 

[ashok321]

Jihad is there in Islam, zionism is not there in Judasim and every jew do not believe in Zionism

Jihad being in Islam is okey, but other dogma/doctrine/ideology is not for others?

 

[BDforever]

Jihad being in Islam is okey, but other dogma/doctrine/ideology is not for others?

because other is not there in their religion, so much comprehension problem ?

 

[hussain0216]

well the point is opinion of people like you also doesnt matter ... got it !!

thing is israel is fighting a force that has a history of making unprovoked attacks on israeli citizens and israel has every right to defend its civilliansfrom any external or internal agression just likeany other sovrieghn nation state .


the world order is about human rights not just muslim ummahs rights . get used to it . if you try to force your will on others and think that they wont retaliate you are fooling no one else but your self . and israel has mde this way to clear and hamas is responsible for deaths of so many civillianscause they started it all first by enticing passions and then showering rockets on israeli citizens

(it dosentmatters weather how manyrockets were sucsessfull in raeching there targets point is they were fired on israel from palestenian area and from launchers hidden in civillian areas specialli schools and hospitals)

and israel has every right to neutralise this threat and use force which is at its disposal .and its hamas fault they used children as human shields and had fired rockets from civillian areas (what they were thinking in retaliatio ... roses and garlands)

hamas is responsible for civillian deaths in palestine as they very well new whatwillbe israeli response and they dellibratelli put the children , women and civillians into the meat grinder to gather world sympathy but the thing is

YOU CAN FOOL SOME PEOPLEFOR SOME TIME , YOU CAN EVEN GET AWAY WITH FOOLING ALL THE PEOPLE FOR SOME TIME BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME

and hamas has learned this lesson at the cost of hundreds of civillian deaths

israel is not wrong in retaliating against agression hamas is responsible for dellibratelli enticing and leathel feud

period

Except that hamas isn't using human shields

israel is occupying and laying siege to them
and has done so for decades

it is the right of a people to fight back against occupation


The indian sub continent did it against the British the palestenians are doing it against the jews

 

[Ahmad1996]

As I pointed out. The right time and place to argue this is the late 40s and in the UN.

The current government of Israel has come to the conclusion that peace is not possible,
and Hamas does not have any peace in mind.

No peace, means occupation and blockade continues.

Palestinians need a new leadership which focus of the welfare of current inhabitants
instead of dreaming about a Shangri-La.

Then stop justifying them. Someone else told this before too in the thread but I guess you are too lazy to read. Suppose that Zionists announced that your country was their land, they all start migration to your land. Then they say they want to create their own state, kick out the native population create their own state in which they have more land then the native people, superpowers support them and then say all we wanted was peace. How the bloody hell could you have achieved peace after all of this?

 

[hussain0216]

As I pointed out. The right time and place to argue this is the late 40s and in the UN.

The current government of Israel has come to the conclusion that peace is not possible,
and Hamas does not have any peace in mind.

No peace, means occupation and blockade continues.

Palestinians need a new leadership which focus of the welfare of current inhabitants
instead of dreaming about a Shangri-La.


Because that is how you combat a proposal which you don't like.
Basic laws of politicians.

But this is not politics this is about occupation of Palestine endorsed by a forum in the 40's where the middle eastern voice was very weak

You dont just accept things forced upon you

 

[GURU DUTT]

Except that hamas isn't using human shields

israel is occupying and laying siege to them
and has done so for decades

it is the right of a people to fight back against occupation


The indian sub continent did it against the British the palestenians are doing it against the jews

well keep fooling yourself world dosent thinks so on the contrarry just look at saudi/arab states and egyptian response or do you ... khair jane do ?

 

[Ahmad1996]

Jihad being in Islam is okey, but other dogma/doctrine/ideology is not for others?

Jihad in Islam mean to struggle in the way of Allah not go and kill people. This idea has been misused by people and then idiots like CIA trained them and then branded them terrorists. You can see who's the real culprit here.

 

[Devil Soul]

Jews got the RIGHT to exist, but their presence on the occupied land is not acceptable...

 

[ashok321]

because other is not there in their religion, so much comprehension problem ?

For anybody to have an ideology, religion is inconsequential. Even atheists have their own.
Hence your debate is flawed.