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does israel have the right to exist?

should israel have been created?


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Qamar, the Jews claim, Moses said this is the promised land. Now, the entire argument stops there. It was artificially created or not. The question they will ask is about geographies. Thats another can of worms. Its about faith. The problem with saying that is not a proper argument is dangerous, because then a lot of things said by a lot of religions will now be open to questioning.
 
Qamar, the Jews claim, Moses said this is the promised land. Now, the entire argument stops there. It was artificially created or not. Its about faith. The problem with saying that is not a proper argument is dangerous, because then a lot of things said by a lot of religions will now be open to questioning.
sure it can be promisted land where they can live, Moses did not say grap the land from local, they could live being Palestanian.
 
sure it can be promisted land where they can live, Moses did not say grap the land from local, they could live being Palestanian.

Well yes, in the perfect scenario they would all live together and be one happy family. :)

Moses said live there. So they are. Now, if someone objects to that, they will create problem, resulting in counter problem and then again. Like I said, we can compare with other religions about why, but that is opening a can of worms better left untouched.
 
Well yes, in the perfect scenario they would all live together and be one happy family. :)

Moses said live there. So they are. Now, if someone objects to that, they will create problem, resulting in counter problem and then again. Like I said, we can compare with other religions about why, but that is opening a can of worms better left untouched.
ppl object creation of Israel, not jews' right to live there, do not forget Jerusalem is also Muslim's holy land too.
 
Well yes, in the perfect scenario they would all live together and be one happy family. :)

Moses said live there. So they are. Now, if someone objects to that, they will create problem, resulting in counter problem and then again. Like I said, we can compare with other religions about why, but that is opening a can of worms better left untouched.

Moses said live there, he didn't say wipeout the current population, grab their land or create a blockade.
 
Samaritans Jews never left Israel, some are Palestinians or Arab jews other are from around the world. In other words Jews and Muslims were living peacefully until the Zionists arrived.

Samaritans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Zionism is the national movement of Jews and Jewish culture that supports the creation of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the Land of Israel...

What is the problem here?
 
@qamar1990 you have asking the wrong question.

@FaujHistorian is right.Israel is here now. And it is a country capable of defending itself. It has nuclear weapons which means that if someone destroys Israel, they will nuke the entire Arab world and turn it to glass.

So the only question now worth asking is - what should be done going forward. One state or two state, and what boundaries.
 
ppl object creation of Israel, not jews' right to live there.

Yes my friend I get that. The problems arose post world war 2. I am sure we need not get into history behind that?
 
This subject have been debated before and nothing came out of it. Just like loony 9/11 conspiracy theories, leave alone long enough and someone will raise it again as if he just had an original idea to pose as a question. :rolleyes:

If anything is to come out of these useless discussions, the Jews can expect from the Muslims that the solution for the Jews is 'The Final Solution'. No Jews, no Israel. Problem solved, no ? Just like how Iraqi Christians are being hunted and killed. No Christians, no problems, no ?
 
Yes my friend I get that. The problems arose post world war 2. I am sure we need not get into history behind that?
the land was given by britian after ww2 , right ?
 
Moses said live there, he didn't say wipeout the current population, grab their land or create a blockade.

Well they did live there? Who asked the Arabs to attack in 1963 ? They could have accepted and welcomed them? But they did not? Look there are arguments and counter arguments. The reality of the matter is it exists. Quesiton to be answered is how to make this a respectable, tenable and prosperous situation for the Palestinians. The more the aggression, less likely the solution.
 
Zionism is not part of Judasim, it is just idiology of some ppl, do you know that ?

Everybody has some kind of ideology.
What is your problem with that?
Islam has an ideology of Jihad, so?
 
This subject have been debated before and nothing came out of it. Just like loony 9/11 conspiracy theories, leave alone long enough and someone will raise it again as if he just had an original idea to pose as a question. :rolleyes:

If anything is to come out of these useless discussions, the Jews can expect from the Muslims that the solution for the Jews is 'The Final Solution'. No Jews, no Israel. Problem solved, no ? Just like how Iraqi Christians are being hunted and killed. No Christians, no problems, no ?
there should be jew and christian, no problem
talking about Iraqi christian ? well you are chopping your own feet now, are not they your allies in syria ? lol

did you forgot to mention that killing palestanian christian by Israel ? lol
 
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