Does India need 8,000 Km Range missile?

[Broccoli]

Bro,R 36 "Satan" of soviet union carries upto 14 (or more) RVs,10 warheads.

R-36 is a liquid fueled 200.000 kg monsters... size wise it's more like a space rocket. Russians never managed to design something like the Peacekeeper and that's why they are planning to replace R-36 with another new liquid fueled "heavy ICBM".

Bulava is armed normally with 6 warheads and some reports suggests it could be armed with up to 10, but in that case it probably cannot be equipped with penaids and loses it's range.

 

[acetophenol]

R-36 is a liquid fueled 200.000 kg monsters... size wise it's more like a space rocket. Russians never managed to design something like the Peacekeeper and that's why they are planning to replace R-36 with another new liquid fueled "heavy ICBM".

Bulava is armed normally with 6 warheads and some reports suggests it could be armed with up to 10, but in that case it probably cannot be equipped with penaids and loses it's range.

Our discussion was the no.of warheads carried.

 

[Indo-guy]

Even the infamous bulava missile has upto 10 mirv's

why did Bulava become ' infamous ' ....? Lol

 

[he-man]

why did Bulava become ' infamous ' ....? Lol

failures>>success

it had like 8 failed tests or so,lol

 

[IND151]

R-36 is a liquid fueled 200.000 kg monsters... size wise it's more like a space rocket. Russians never managed to design something like the Peacekeeper and that's why they are planning to replace R-36 with another new liquid fueled "heavy ICBM".

Bulava is armed normally with 6 warheads and some reports suggests it could be armed with up to 10, but in that case it probably cannot be equipped with penaids and loses it's range.

But has far greater throw eight..............8800 KG against 4000 KG.

 

[Tshering22]

Earlier I would have said yes but looking at the rapid changing political scenario I think we need to have a 12,000 Km missile.

We need to have a global strike range as the threat perception is high from the other side as well.

That will only deter or enemies.

 

[Contrarian]

I agree.

 

[axisofevil]

Earlier I would have said yes but looking at the rapid changing political scenario I think we need to have a 12,000 Km missile.

We need to have a global strike range as the threat perception is high from the other side as well.

That will only deter or enemies.

Tshering, there should no limit on our capabilities. There should be no limit on missile range. The greater the range, then more opportunities will open up such as space and miniaturization. Our threats will vary from time to time, but having the capability to cover the world will ensure for a limited time that we are not helpless.

 

[Nan Yang]

I repeat my question

Does India need 8,000 Km Range missile?

No, there is no strategic need.
Biggest threat to India is its internal Maoist insurgent.
2nd biggest threat is Pakistan which is just next door.

depends on what you mean by need.

China would never use it regardless of Indian capabilities. Even disregard the whole international response and other things, just the after effect of the Nuke will cause more harm than good, even to China itself. We are too close.


But missiles like these are the ticket to great power status, so think of it like a mercedes, nobody needs it, but good to have.

Define Great Power status first. In my opinion, economic power is the foundation for Great Power Status. Without a strong economy you cannot sustain large expensive high tech forces. GDP wise, India is smaller then Italy.
Imagine Italy having Ballistic missiles.

 

[kaykay]

No, there is no strategic need.
Biggest threat to India is its internal Maoist insurgent.
2nd biggest threat is Pakistan which is just next door.



Define Great Power status first. In my opinion, economic power is the foundation for Great Power Status. Without a strong economy you cannot sustain large expensive high tech forces. GDP wise, India is smaller then Italy.
Imagine Italy having Ballistic missiles.

Very absurd logic. Its based on threat perception and not economy or anything else. Italy don't need it because they have NATO cover and no possible enemy.
And yes maoists are a threat to peace in some backward and rural parts of India but they are not even close to those Islamic bigots elsewhere in foreign countries when it comes to Internal threat. Last year they manage to kill around 130 people but at the cost of losing hundreds of their comrads and surrendering around 2500 and further arrest of around 1500. I am sure 130 casualties caused by them to a country with 1.2 Billion population is a serious $hit but not a cause of worry in real life like you are projecting.

 

[Nan Yang]

Very absurd logic. Its based on threat perception and not economy or anything else. Italy don't need it because they have NATO cover and no possible enemy.
And yes maoists are a threat to peace in some backward and rural parts of India but they are not even close to those Islamic bigots elsewhere in foreign countries when it comes to Internal threat. Last year they manage to kill around 130 people but at the cost of losing hundreds of their comrads and surrendering around 2500 and further arrest of around 1500. I am sure 130 casualties caused by them to a country with 1.2 Billion population is a serious $hit but not a cause of worry in real life like you are projecting.

Just saying that an internal insurgent threat or a enemy country next door do not require a 8000km range Ballistic missile. That is all. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[NEPALESE GURKHA]

Just saying that an internal insurgent threat or a enemy country next door do not require a 8000km range Ballistic missile. That is all. Nothing more nothing less.

Then what should be the criteria for possessing it sir?

 

[kaykay]

Just saying that an internal insurgent threat or a enemy country next door do not require a 8000km range Ballistic missile. That is all. Nothing more nothing less.

Any missile with 5000KM range is more than enough for our immediate threats. But again having capabilities are no bad either especially when geo-politics changes every year. You never know what will come to you 5 years later so better equip yourself and pray for peace.

 

[Nan Yang]

Then what should be the criteria for possessing it sir?

A strategic weapon system is develop for a specific threat. Identify the threat first then develop the weapon system to address that threat. Simple as that.

But again having capabilities are no bad either especially when geo-politics changes every year. You never know what will come to you 5 years later so better equip yourself and pray for peace.

Not a good strategy. You could end up with the wrong weapon system.

 

[kaykay]

A strategic weapon system is develop for a specific threat. Identify the threat first then develop the weapon system to address that threat. Simple as that.



Not a good strategy. You could end up with the wrong weapon system.

Well it would be wrong when one rely only on nuclear missiles as missiles are last option.