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Do we know?Pakistan helped 15 countries to got freedom and helpd US become solo superpower

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Pakistan played a central role in destroying soviets. Pakistan was at risk due to soviet expansion.Also, Pakistan had enmity towards USSR due to its support towards India in the 1971 war in which Pakistan was divided into two countries. Those who are saying Pakistan had no role should check out the operational history of f16s. Pakistan used them to destroy 6 soviet aircraft.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/pakistan’s-f-16s-battled-soviet-jets—and-shot-down-future-vice-president-russia-47717

Also, Pakistan's ssg comandos and ISI carried out a gorilla war to stop soviet invation. Pakistan did harbor afghan militants or maybe freedom-fighters but it did what was necassary for its survival and to teach soviets a lesson.

  1. Pakistan provided sanctuary for the mujahideen fighters.
  2. Pakistan trained around 100,000 Afghans to fight the Soviet Union.
  3. Pakistan provided intelligence to the mujahideen fighters.
  4. Pakistan provided weapons the mujahideen fighters
  5. Weapons from the USA and Gulf states were funneled through Pakistan.
  6. According to some Afghan sources EVERY Mujahideen unit had at the very least 1 Pakistani instructor.
  7. Pakistani commandos (SSG) participated in many battles especially against the Spetznaz who were highly trained and would have caused a lot of casualties had they fought the Afghan mujahideen.
  8. Regular Pakistani soldiers fought in mujahideen ranks.
  9. Many civilian men from all across Pakistan fought alongside the mujahideen as they saw it as a holy war against the atheist communists who were invading a neighboring Muslim country with the intention of possibly invading Pakistan at a later time.
  10. It is reported that the Pakistani Air Force shot down around 6–8 Russian fighter jets whilst losing 0 in the process
It is safe to say that without Pakistans huge contributions to the Afghan-Soviet war the outcome could have been quite a lot different, Germany recognized Pakistans role in the defeat of the Soviet Union and sent Pakistan the 1st brick of the Berlin war and other gifts as a thank you. The Afghan Taliban till this day is loyal to Pakistan as it recognizes the help that Pakistan gave to them in their war against the Soviet Union.
if anybody don't know Spetsnaz then should know how SSG fight these beasts because
Spetsnaz training would be illegal in the US or other Western nations.
They are constantly out fighting and are practically invincible to any kind of punishment. Not to mention the fact that they have some of the best weapons on earth, like the AK-74m.
Survive the most brutal training, some of the training that they have to go through is not even allowed in the US. And it is SPETSNAZ not spetnazc
Spetsnaz are the most trained soliders in the world. They are almost impossible to crack in interrogation and are taught not ignore pain but to enjoy it.
Spetsnaz troops get locked in a room filled waist high with animal organs and blood which is why they have nerves of steel.

Now everyone will think twice, even three times, before antagonizing Pakistan.

I wish we could deal stronger with India and apply more pressure on them until they relent on Kashmir, that is the last question mark people have when it comes to Pakistan's strength.

If we could deal with Kashmir, weaken India, merge with Afghanistan, become an indispensable business partner to China, and strengthen our alliance with Turkey further, then our superpower quest would become a reality.
 
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Now everyone will think twice, even three times, before antagonizing Pakistan.

I wish we could deal stronger with India and apply more pressure on them until they relent on Kashmir, that is the last question mark people have when it comes to Pakistan's strength.

If we could deal with Kashmir, weaken India, merge with Afghanistan, become an indispensable business partner to China, and strengthen our alliance with Turkey further, then our superpower quest would become a reality.
Agree but i think recent administration dismental indian narrative againt pakistan which india took years to built as terrorist nation and modi itself fire on its feet too...things are not that easy for india anymore..
 
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Agree but i think recent administration dismental indian narrative againt pakistan which india took years to built as terrorist nation and modi itself fire on its feet too...things are not that easy for india anymore..

Agreed, unfortunately our Arab and (less so) Iranian "brothers" are busy doing PR for India. However, I am glad we are finally out of the illusion that we can find friends in the Gulf or Iran.

Our real friends are Turkey and China, we don't really need anyone else for the time being. Yet the people of Afghanistan are now awakening up to the lies they were fed and realizing their future is with Pakistan.

Alhamdulilah.
 
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This story of Pakistan splitting USSR into many pieces is as bullsh1t as India splitting Pakistan into two! internal instability and economic down fall led to divisions. Its like Wahabis taking credit for defeat of ottoman empire which was on verge or collapse.
you are right and you are wrong. Yes USSR had economic hell going on that time. But Pakistan made sure that Afghanistan was the last war USSR would fight demoralizing the locals of USSR and huge economic loss due to resulting in non fruitful results of skirmish in Afghanistan by USSR.
 
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Agreed, unfortunately our Arab and (less so) Iranian "brothers" are busy doing PR for India. However, I am glad we are finally out of the illusion that we can find friends in the Gulf or Iran.

Our real friends are Turkey and China, we don't really need anyone else for the time being. Yet the people of Afghanistan are now awakening up to the lies they were fed and realizing their future is with Pakistan.

Alhamdulilah.

That's what I have been telling people all along -- we have nothing to do with the Arabs, they are stuck in another world and don't know what's going around them.
 
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you are right and you are wrong. Yes USSR had economic hell going on that time. But Pakistan made sure that Afghanistan was the last war USSR would fight demoralizing the locals of USSR and huge economic loss due to resulting in non fruitful results of skirmish in Afghanistan by USSR.
Now pakistan is making sure this is last war for decline supper power USA..

Now everyone will think twice, even three times, before antagonizing Pakistan.

I wish we could deal stronger with India and apply more pressure on them until they relent on Kashmir, that is the last question mark people have when it comes to Pakistan's strength.

If we could deal with Kashmir, weaken India, merge with Afghanistan, become an indispensable business partner to China, and strengthen our alliance with Turkey further, then our superpower quest would become a reality.
It was fix between banzeer and raw india.. benzeer wanted to take revang from zia...she asked india if they help her to kill zia she will help india to finsh freedom fight in indian punjab.. the agreement went well zia got killed and in return she n her interior minister irtazaz hamid has given the famous list of sing freedom fighters to india.. zia plan was to get freedom for punjab and Kashmir will be free automatically with out seding blood....it was master plan n it was near to finsh...
 
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Now everyone will think twice, even three times, before antagonizing Pakistan.

I wish we could deal stronger with India and apply more pressure on them until they relent on Kashmir, that is the last question mark people have when it comes to Pakistan's strength.

If we could deal with Kashmir, weaken India, merge with Afghanistan, become an indispensable business partner to China, and strengthen our alliance with Turkey further, then our superpower quest would become a reality.
Kashmir is Time Bomb, and whatever Modi has done there , cant be reversed. Modi's Saffron democracy is good for Pakistan's favor. India's obsession with renaming cities will tear its society apart. India's fall is worse than Soviet in the situation, it is just a matter of time. Modi is putting Hindu civilization in great danger. Today Modi is ready to take india to different level in coming years .
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...izenship-bill-parliament-191209041402071.html

Hamid gul word is coming 100%.
 
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It's your responsibility how to get something in return.


And you forgot ...


The Forgotten Contribution Of Pakistan To Indonesian Independence.

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Some of the graves of fallen Pakistani soldiers

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the picture shown is of British & Indian troops while the first & last grave carries the badge of the Jat Regiment
 
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That's what I have been telling people all along -- we have nothing to do with the Arabs, they are stuck in another world and don't know what's going around them.

A big calamity (malhamat ul qubra) is about to befall the Arabs very soon at the hands of Israel. This is why according to hadith, when Sahabah akram asked Rasool saws where would Arabs be at the time of Dajjal he said, "They will be very few by that time."

The Arab leadership is leading their nation into destruction. We should stay clear of their petty squabbles and sectarian poison, and instead focus on our economy and military.

If we need support among Muslim countries, we have many friends (or willing friends) in Europe, Asia, and Africa. We should follow Iranians in trying to expand our influence and goodwill to Latin/South America as well.
 
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A big calamity (malhamat ul qubra) is about to befall the Arabs very soon at the hands of Israel. This is why according to hadith, when Sahabah akram asked Rasool saws where would Arabs be at the time of Dajjal he said, "They will be very few by that time."

The Arab leadership is leading their nation into destruction. We should stay clear of their petty squabbles and sectarian poison, and instead focus on our economy and military.

If we need support among Muslim countries, we have many friends (or willing friends) in Europe, Asia, and Africa. We should follow Iranians in trying to expand our influence and goodwill to Latin/South America as well.
100% agreed and further to your context, I just adding this Orya Maqbool youtube who is explaining same context of your in great detail.
 
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What we got in return? Wot. Supporting Soviets would have been better.
Lol, you made me imagine a simple map of ASIA had soviet expanded to afg. Pak surrounded by 3 Nuk powers, and 4 nuclear neighbours with us being in center
 
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the picture shown is of British & Indian troops while the first & last grave carries the badge of the Jat Regiment
Yes, right after creation of Pakistan Jatt regiment convert into Punjab Regiment of Pakistan. Plus these muslim soldiers of Pakistan were allowed by Quaid e azam to serve in Indonesia freedom movement from Dutch.
 
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