As I said, I won't stoop down to your level.
I agree. There was no sense of Indianness. There was no sense of nationalism thousands of years back.
Then are you looking at history through your nationalist lense?
this entire thread, that you oppened, is a look at history through your warped sense of nationalism
So you are taking just present India under consideration but fail to take Afghanistan and Pakistan under consideration. Cool. And I never said all conversions were forced. But they were definitely in some cases unless you want to contradict your own fellow Muslim authors.
Who said I was not taking those places into consideration?
See point 3.
You are making the claims (or at the very least, strongly implying) that mass forced conversions is the reason Muslims are the majority in many countries.
No one on Earth is denying that there have been cases of forced conversions. (Including to Hinduism)
But to say that there was mass forced conversion to Islam in India is ludicrous and the realm of Hindutva Incels.
You have no historical evidence of this and like I said, 80% Hindu population is proof for every sane human on Earth to concede this point.
I agree. They certainly have minorities.
Well, at least we know that you are capable of pointing out the obvious.
Yes Zoroastrians are 15% of Iran aren't they? Hindus are 20% of Pakistan. Good to see so many minorities.
And how many percent Buddhist does India have again?
This is where your nonsense comes out. You think that you just made some amazing point and that you proved Islam is some kind of evil religion.
Tell me, in the 4 billion years of Earth's existence, how old is Hinduism?
I heart 6000,7000, 10,000 years old from various Hindutva members.
So, that means that there was a time in Indian history that India was NOT Hindu.
We have fossils of Humans living in India as far back as 50,000 years.
I don't see even 1% of those people's religion in India.
Where are their religion?
How come Hindus forced almost all of them to convert to Hindusim?
80% Hindu population after Islamic rule, not even 1% original religion after Hindu rule.
Why do you run form this fact?
There was no religious persecution of Buddhists. At least not on the scale of the persecution Hindus/Buddhists faced at the hands of Muslims initially. Or the Zoroastrians.
Again, I'm not saying all converted by force. But kings were encouraged to convert if they wanted to continue ruling. Exceptions are always there.
Hindutva logic incoming:
80% population is indigenous after 1000 years of Muslim rule
Hindtuvas: ISLAM IS EVIL THEY FORCED EVERYONE TO CONVERT, THEY ARE NOT EVEN HUMAN. INVADERS, INVADERS, INVADERS, INVADERS. (starts lynching Muslims)
0% Original religion after less then 200 years of Hindu rule.
Hindutvas: well you see, the kings were very nice to them and gave them lots of flowers and one time a king even gave a guy ghee to convert to Hinduism.
Evidence?
I am Hindutva, we don't belie in evidence.
If Hindus hate Buddhists, why do we see people of Nepal and Sri Lanka following both Hindu and Buddhist customs? Same with Thailand. I consider Lord Buddha to be one of the greatest people. Surely, I as a Hindu should hate Buddhists. Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains are Dharmic. There are no issues with them in India. You are mistaken.
Can Muslims get away by calling Lord Buddha as their hero? Or some Hindu? I know some Pakistanis won't have any problem with that but for majority any non-Muslim hero is anathema.
For example, I respect Akbar and Dara Shikoh even though they were Muslims.
And I won't be replying further to you.
And one time Harry potter broke his wand and fought everyone with his bare hands.
"If Hindus hate Buddhist...."
Find a single time I made that claim.
your comment is as irrelevant as mine about Harry potter.
You cannot deny the history that Hindus reduced Buddhist to almost 0% in India so you have no make up stories.
I will say this again, you Hindutvas are living in 100% fairy tale lands. I am not saying this because I am Pakistani, I am saying this because I have actually studied history.
There were times in Muslim/Pakistani history where we were wrong, we did bad things, we were evil. And I can admit that.
But I also know that there were times in Hindu/Indian history were you were wrong, you did bad things, you were Evil.
That is the human condition.
You people are unable to comprehend this and instead see the world like a 10 year old child sees it. Good guys and Bad guys only.
@Rusty good to see you back brother. Hope you are fine!
As I mentioned earlier: Hindus are the most revanchist people on earth. They don't understand that humans develop over time. There is no single nation on earth that hasn't changed in the last X thousand years.
And no offense to our Indian PDF members, I don't regret that Muslims are a minority in India but I wish that one day it will be the other way round (and this will be the case inshallah soon).
Hinduism and Islam are the complete opposite of each other. Nobody can deny that. But there are still more Hindus in Barr-E-Sagheer than Muslims even though Muslims ruled and civilised you for over a Millenia.
You revanchist people must stop living in the past. The Maratha Empire is dead, Chandragupta is dead, yeah even the great Muslim caliphates degenerated one day and are not existent anymore. So? That's history, that's the will of Allah and as Muslims we learn to accept his commands.
There is one great principle in this world: Vae Victis!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vae_victis
The Abbasids know about this principle, the Sassanids, the Ming dynasty, the Mughals... so stop crying! History is not for the weak.
Thanks.
I don't plan on being back for long as I still hate PDF
But these Hindutvas were getting out of hand.