Diaoyu Islands News and Updates

[Rechoice]

news like this would scare off vietnamese guys here. their master, japanese, doesnt not like this, so they dont

What do you mean ?

 

[Viet]

@terranMarine and other Chinese members here:

I am aware this thread is for sure about Sino-JP dispute. One on side we see a huge number of Chinese members, but in contrast unfortunately there is no JP member. If you insist that VN and PN posters stay outside, who would contribute and defend JP?

So pls stop posting insulting comments, you just provoke another row of a war of words.

 

[Viet]

Hi Threads are open to everyone just keep it civil and stick to the topic.

Thanks for clarification!

 

[Soryu]

there is no insulting word at all. but there is precise word to describe the nature of something! no better word suits them, you know

Oh, I know that from very long, you show your personal with your words.

What do you mean ?

He just said about slave and master, so I guess may be he want become slave clown of someone... well, don't care about that!

@terranMarine and other Chinese members here:

I am aware this thread is for sure about Sino-JP dispute. One on side we see a huge number of Chinese members, but in contrast unfortunately there is no JP member. If you insist that VN and PN posters stay outside, who would contribute and defend JP?

So pls stop posting insulting comments, you just provoke another row of a war of words.

I don't know who was defend for Japan, but with me, I just comment about arguments post here!
May be Japanese did not waste their time for this place where gather so many troll from Chinese

Hi @Soryu, I want to keep this thread on the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands thread not the SCS issue hence I have deleted most of the comments that were flame/fighting, there is plenty of off topic material that contributes to fighting, your post happened to be apart of it and it would only contribute more negative comments. As for the post you showed on with the insult unfortunately it did not delete while I was removing most of them thank you for bringing it to my attention . Now if someone makes a offense post or troll post do not reply to it otherwise you are simply feeding them let me handle it. Threads are open to everyone just keep it civil and stick to the topic.

It's good for confirm that! Thank!

 

[grandmaster]

Oh, I know that from very long, you show your personal with your words.

He just said about slave and master, so I guess may be he want become slave clown of someone... well, don't care about that!

I don't know who was defend for Japan, but with me, I just comment about arguments post here!
May be Japanese did not waste their time for this place where gather so many troll from Chinese

It's good for confirm that! Thank!

you guess whatever you want. some vietnamse guys are defending for japan as if he or she was japanese and Diaoyu island was their territory, obviously they are slaves. you dont have to guess on soneone else

 

[Viet]

you guess whatever you want. some vietnamse guys are defending for japan as if he or she was japanese and Diaoyu island was their territory, obviously they are slaves. why you need to guess?
[/IMG]

Why do you repeat posting ugly image again and again? You should know Koreans dislike Chinese and Japanese. So same question goes to you: why do you defend China, are you a slave to the Chinese? You idiot.
Basically I defend the justice, be Japan or Philippines or in some cases I defend China against injustice. Read my posts!

 

[Viet]

no one accredits you as justice. you'd better admit you are clown of japan. regarding the image, korean protest against japanese, your owner.

post reported, you clown

 

[Soryu]

Why do you repeat posting ugly image again and again? You should know Koreans dislike Chinese and Japanese. So same question goes to you: why do you defend China, are you a slave to the Chinese? You idiot.
Basically I defend the justice, be Japan or Philippines or in some cases I defend China against injustice. Read my posts!

If he want become that, so let him act for that.
I read news that said Chinese ship "hunt" Japanese fishing ship near Senkaku Is., let wait some more news....

 

[shuttler]

Abe: China stirs up rows to build support at home
The Washington Post
Feb 21, 2013

Gear up: Prime Minister Shinzo Abe waves at Tokyo's Haneda airport Thursday as he departs for Washington. | AP


China has a “deeply ingrained” need to spar with Japan and other Asian neighbors over territory, because the ruling Communist Party uses the disputes to maintain strong domestic support, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in an interview.

Clashes with neighbors, notably Japan, play to popular opinion, Abe said, given a Chinese education system that emphasizes patriotism and “anti-Japanese sentiment.”

Abe’s theory on the entrenched motivation behind China’s recent naval aggression helps explain why he has spent more effort trying to counter the Chinese than make peace with them: He thinks the fierce dispute with China over the Japan-held Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea isn’t going away anytime soon.

Abe spoke about China in what aides described as unusually detailed terms, laying out challenges that Chinese leaders might face if other parts of Asia, unnerved by Beijing’s maritime expansionism, decide to reduce trade and other economic ties. China’s government would be hurt by such moves, Abe said, because without economic growth, it “will not be able to control the 1.3 billion people . . . under the one-party rule.”

Abe also laid out his plans for deterrence, which include boosting military spending and strengthening ties with Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and other nations that share concerns about Beijing. Abe, who is to meet Friday with President Barack Obama in Washington, said the U.S. presence in Asia is “critical” to deter China from taking territory controlled by other countries.

His comments came in an interview Saturday with The Washington Post, which The Post was granted on condition that the article not be published until Abe was departing for Washington.

In recent years, China has played an increasingly boisterous role in the South China Sea, claiming a massive sphere of territory that includes some of the world’s most trafficked shipping lanes and overlaps with claims of a half-dozen other countries. For Japan, the dispute with China focuses on the remote Senkakus in the East China Sea, islets China calls the Diaoyu. Tensions heated up in September after the central government purchased three of the islets after previously renting them, thereby nationalizing the whole chain.

“What is important first and foremost,” Abe said, “is to make (China) realize that they would not be able to change the rules or take away somebody’s territorial water or territory by coercion or intimidation.”

Abe’s assessment of China sounds like a version of the one that experts in Beijing give of Japan, which they say has shifted to the right on foreign policy and security issues in a bid to recover clout and pride lost during two decades of economic stagnation. Abe’s criticism of Chinese education is also notable because, during his first stint as prime minister six years ago, he revised a law to encourage a more patriotic curriculum in Japan’s classrooms.

Abe became prime minister for a second time in December, after making a string of far-right campaign pledges to revise the pacifist Constitution and loosen certain restrictions on the armed forces. He also promised to be tougher on China than the previous government of the moderate Democratic Party of Japan.

But two months into his term, Abe looks more like a pragmatist than a strident nationalist, focusing mainly on a new, and so far successful, economic policy to weaken the yen and spur inflation. His latest popularity rating is 71 percent, according to the Yomiuri newspaper, a stunning mark in a nation that has cycled through six consecutive one-year leaders.

“I have succeeded already in changing the general mood and atmosphere that was prevalent in Japan,” Abe said.

The question is whether Abe will change course and begin pushing for his controversial rightwing hobbyhorses after the July Upper House election, which could help his Liberal Democratic Party build an overwhelming majority and leave Abe emboldened.

One concern is that Abe may try to water down earlier government apologies for atrocities committed by Japan during the war. Abe, in the interview, said he would someday like to make a “future-oriented” statement aimed at Japan’s neighbors, but he did not elaborate on what its message would be.

Beijing has responded to Japan’s nationalization of the Senkakus by sending surveillance ships and aircraft into Japanese territory, drawing Japan into a risky showdown in which the neighbors chase each other around the waters and airspace around the uninhabited rocky outcroppings. Any armed conflict could draw in the U.S., which is treaty-bound to protect Japan.

While historical animosities are at the root of Japan’s territorial dispute with China, the maritime conflict is relatively new. During the interview, Abe portrayed China’s actions as part of a 35-year shift that began when the Communist Party opened its once-controlled economy. China’s government has since had to abandon the hope of nationwide economic equality — “one of its pillars of legitimacy,” Abe said — forcing it to create “some different pillars,” including rapid economic growth and patriotism.

“What is unfortunate, however,” Abe added, “is that in the case of China, teaching patriotism (is equivalent to) teaching anti-Japanese sentiment. In other words, their education policy of teaching patriotism has become even more pronounced as they started the reform and opening policy.”

Abe said China’s tactics at sea are yielding “strong support” domestically. Those tactics, some analysts say, also could prove financially lucrative if China gains control of shipping lanes and access to rich fishing territory, and extracts hydrocarbon reserves.

But Abe warned China’s sparring with its neighbors could backfire, potentially undermining trade partnerships and causing skittishness among foreign investors.

“Such behavior is going to have an effect on their economic activity at the end of the day,” he said, “because it will lead to losing the confidence of the international community, which will result in less investments in China. I believe it is fully possible to have China (change its) policy once they gain that recognition.”

THESE ARE ALL DIPLOMATIC EMBARRASSMENTS FOR THE JAPANESE:


AFTER THE ABOVE PICTURED FOOLISH COMMENTS REPORTED ON WASHINGTON POST UPON ABE'S ARRIVAL IN USA, THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT WAS SCRAMBLING TO WIPE ABE'S ARSE BY SCAPE-GOATING ABE'S GAFFE TO THE US MEDIA:

Japan says US media misquoted Abe's words

2013-02-22 14:58

TOKYO - Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga clarified Friday that a US newspaper misquoted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's China-related remarks in an interview and led to misunderstanding.

Responding to Xinhua inquiry at a press conference, Suga said the Japanese government had clarified to China that the Washington Post incorrectly quoted Abe's words and led to misunderstanding.

Abe has repeatedly emphasized that Japan-China relationship remains one of the most important bilateral relationship for Japan and Japan will push forward the bilateral strategic and mutually beneficial relations through an overall perspective, Suga said.

The Washington Post published an interview with Abe on Thursday, quoting Abe as saying that "China has a 'deeply ingrained' need to spar with Japan and other Asian neighbors over territory."

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said Thursday that "the Chinese side was astonished at the report," adding it is rare for a country's leader to brazenly assault its neighbor and instigate antagonism.

Hong also said that such behavior goes against the will of international community

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AND THEN THIS IS HOW THE WASHINGTON POST REACTS TO THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT'S SCAPE-GOATING:

Washington Post denies misquoting Abe

The Washington Post has denied that it misquoted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in an interview that included criticism of the Chinese government.

The Hong Kong-based TV station Phoenix says a Washington Post editor replied via email to a Phoenix reporter, saying that the newspaper has accurately quoted Abe's words. The interview was posted on its website.

On Friday, Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said the Abe's statements about the Chinese government had been misquoted. Suga said Abe spoke about China in detailed terms, laying out challenges that Chinese leaders might face. The prime minister said the territorial dispute with China isn’t going away anytime soon.

 

[terranMarine]

@terranMarine and other Chinese members here:

I am aware this thread is for sure about Sino-JP dispute. One on side we see a huge number of Chinese members, but in contrast unfortunately there is no JP member. If you insist that VN and PN posters stay outside, who would contribute and defend JP?

So pls stop posting insulting comments, you just provoke another row of a war of words.

This is just a stupid excuse coming from you. No Japanese asked you guys to defend them on this forum, even the Japanese government told the world not to meddle with it not so long ago. The Japanese won't give an inch to Vietnam even if you spend your time talking crap about defending Japan from Chinese injustice. Since Russia is a buddy of Vietnam you wouldn't defend Japan against Russians patrolling the Kurils. Don't act as if you are no hypocrite. You wouldn't dare criticizing either Japan nor Russia nor Korea when it comes to the other disputes but jumping out like a slave because China is involved in Diaoyu.

 

[grandmaster]

Abe says Japan won

“We simply cannot tolerate any challenge now and in the future. No nation should make any miscalculation or underestimate the firmness of our resolve,” Abe said, in reference to recent tensions over the Diaoyu Islands

Abe did not mention that japanese facist had killed millions of people in china. He should tell chinese people not to tolorate japanese genocide crimes too!

 

[Soryu]

Huh, Washington Post denies misquoting Abe though China media, well, no strange at here...

 

[cirr]

Diaoyu Islands are China's, so our African brothers say:

 

[Globenim]

THESE ARE ALL DIPLOMATIC EMBARRASSMENTS FOR THE JAPANESE:


AFTER THE ABOVE PICTURED FOOLISH COMMENTS REPORTED ON WASHINGTON POST UPON ABE'S ARRIVAL IN USA, THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT WAS SCRAMBLING TO WIPE ABE'S ARSE BY SCAPE-GOATING ABE'S GAFFE TO THE US MEDIA:

Japan says US media misquoted Abe's words
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AND THEN THIS IS HOW THE WASHINGTON POST REACTS TO THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT'S SCAPE-GOATING:

Washington Post denies misquoting Abe

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Looks to me like Japan is it self is just abused by the warmongering U.S. regime in order to stir up conflicts with China and grow anti-Chinese sentiment.

 

[Soryu]

Diaoyu Islands are China's, so our African brothers say:

So these African know what is Diaoyu Isl!???