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LMAO, "Army now dictating the foreign policy of a democratically elected government". Coming from Pakistan.
Hence the question - why is the Indian Army chief issuing statements on conditions for engagement with Pakistan, conditions that I have not heard issued in an official statement by the Indian PMO or foreign minister's office?

Did he preface his statement with "this is just my personal opinion"?
 
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Hence the question - why is the Indian Army chief issuing statements on conditions for engagement with Pakistan, conditions that I have not heard issued in an official statement by the Indian PMO or foreign minister's office?

Did he preface his statement with "this is just my personal opinion"?
no he didnt
maybe didnt see the need anymore. Indian establishment has been dictating Indian foreign policy regarding its neighbors for a long time and has sabotaged the Pak Indian peace initiatives many times now the cat is out the bag showing the real power behind the current Indian democracy RSS politicians, RSS spies and RSS generals.
RSS country

I would have also added something along the lines of, "Is this the Indian government's official stance towards Pakistan, or is the India Army now dictating the foreign policy of a democratically elected government in India?"
Indian army has been dictating the policy for a long time.
 
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Hence the question - why is the Indian Army chief issuing statements on conditions for engagement with Pakistan, conditions that I have not heard issued in an official statement by the Indian PMO or foreign minister's office?

Did he preface his statement with "this is just my personal opinion"?
The Army Chief was speaking his mind at a graduation congregation; who in their right mind would interpret that as a policy statement pointed towards the foreign office.
 
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Should I remind your ex-COAS and thier statements.
Gen Zia: What is a constitution? It is a booklet with twelve or ten pages. I can tear them away and say that tomorrow we shall live under a different system.
Lets not get pedantic here, Each and every COAS of Pakistan. has meddled with not just foriegn policy but with governance and electorate and right upto changing the constitution. The Indian chief just made a remark.

our Generals are the policy of Pakistan there is no dispute on this, we are talking about secular, world's largest democracy
 
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our Generals are the policy of Pakistan there is no dispute on this, we are talking about secular, world's largest democracy
And thus you do not posses the ability to differentiate between a diktat that makes PM to peon fall in line versus a remark at a graduation congregation, not your fault at all.
 
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Should I remind your ex-COAS and thier statements.
Gen Zia: What is a constitution? It is a booklet with twelve or ten pages. I can tear them away and say that tomorrow we shall live under a different system.
Lets not get pedantic here, Each and every COAS of Pakistan. has meddled with not just foriegn policy but with governance and electorate and right upto changing the constitution. The Indian chief just made a remark.

This is 2018, soon 2019. You're nitpicking from the past. Get with the times. Either declare that you're "democratic" or admit to the reality. We didn't claim we were a democracy back then so your statements don't matter.
 
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This is 2018, soon 2019. You're nitpicking from the past. Get with the times. Either declare that you're "democratic" or admit to the reality. We didn't claim we were a democracy back then so your statements don't matter.
What part of indian chief just made a remark was incomprehensible to you? I can simplify things for belligerence 24/7 of majority of members, but I do fall short of finding the cure of lack of comprehension.
 
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no he didnt
maybe didnt see the need anymore. Indian establishment has been dictating Indian foreign policy regarding its neighbors for a long time and has sabotaged the Pak Indian peace initiatives many times now the cat is out the bag showing the real power behind the current Indian democracy RSS politicians, RSS spies and RSS generals.
RSS country


Indian army has been dictating the policy for a long time.

Dear Sir, you are completely off track. The truth is that Gen. Rawat is being used as a mouthpiece by the government, that has its own way of doing things, quite different from what was the pattern earlier.

The Indian Army has NEVER dictated policy, except as far as the colloquium between the J&K State Government, that is, the politicians in office at that moment, the State bureaucracy, the State Governor, and the Indian Army itself is concerned. In that, the GOC-in-C XVI Corps usually has a voice, but he says nothing without checking with the Chief. The Chief, in turn, says nothing without warning the RM (the Defence Minister) what he is thinking, and what he believes is the general feeling in decision-making circles in the Army. A word from the RM, and that line of thinking vanishes. When it appears as a public statement, it means that it has been permitted, even encouraged.

No question of spontaneity.

Your model of the RSS as calling the shots from behind is completely mistaken. It is not yet true; it is hoped that it will never become true.

This is 2018, soon 2019. You're nitpicking from the past. Get with the times. Either declare that you're "democratic" or admit to the reality. We didn't claim we were a democracy back then so your statements don't matter.

Every democracy has changes in ruling party, and that leads to a certain amount of change and re-orientation in policy, doctrine and public stance. So if you will kindly calm down, this kind of transience is always present; even for a committed opponent of the BJP such as I, the need for periodic re-examination of everything from the ground it is necessary to subject all our habitual attitudes, stances and actions to unrelenting scrutiny, even hostile scrutiny.

As for the remark you have answered, there is whataboutery on both sides; it is disingenuous to be so vastly surprised when it is found with an Indian member.
 
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Hence the question - why is the Indian Army chief issuing statements on conditions for engagement with Pakistan, conditions that I have not heard issued in an official statement by the Indian PMO or foreign minister's office?

Did he preface his statement with "this is just my personal opinion"?
Ditto!

Should I remind your ex-COAS and thier statements.
Gen Zia: What is a constitution? It is a booklet with twelve or ten pages. I can tear them away and say that tomorrow we shall live under a different system.
Lets not get pedantic here, Each and every COAS of Pakistan. has meddled with not just foriegn policy but with governance and electorate and right upto changing the constitution. The Indian chief just made a remark.

In the grand scheme of things should people not ask why was the Indian General allowed to air such undiplomatic language in the first instance?
 
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Ignore them is the best we can do .. barking dog seldom bites
 
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In the grand scheme of things should people not ask why was the Indian General allowed to air such undiplomatic language in the first instance?
Oh people can ask whatever they want, but the selective-ness of questioning is quite amusing,

Following is example of the subtle diplomatic tone used by your own generals under a "demoocratic" government.
which did not make you guys bat an eyelid.
"Pakistan: Army Chief Raheel Sharif claimed he was fully aware of India's nefarious designs and the tactics being used by PM Narendra Modi and RAW."
 
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Oh people can ask whatever they want, but the selective-ness of questioning is quite amusing,

Following is example of the subtle diplomatic tone used by your own generals under a "demoocratic" government.
which did not make you guys bat an eyelid.
"Pakistan: Army Chief Raheel Sharif claimed he was fully aware of India's nefarious designs and the tactics being used by PM Narendra Modi and RAW."

Tit for Tat, you expect people to shout "NO PEACE TILL PAKISTAN IS SECULAR" and we will sit down and invite you for tea? Lets get down to brasstacks please! Indian gov has rebuffed all positive gestures made by IK's gov. No sympathy for the present direction India has taken towards OUR country! None, Zilch, Nada, kaput!
 
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