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Developed cancer drug for 'western patients' who could afford, not 'for Indians': Bayer's CEO

I am a fervent defender of patents and intellectual rights. But when it comes to medicine....surely a life is more important than your Mercedes payment. I have a hard time getting worked up about a nation helping the poor to survive.
Look another important factor here is that india is not violating any WTO guidelines...
So no issue...I worked for a knee implant company in US and i know how much profits these companies get for ever until the patent expires...
 
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And old comment by some author on similar issue ( Regarding Novartis Gleevac in India )

"It will be portrayed in Media as if a valid patent has been trampled upon by Indian court. However, that is not the case. The drug patent HAS expired. The company benefited immensely from drug with worldwide sales of around 8.5 bn usd just last year. Given this is a cash cow for company, it has made a slight modification to the drug by adding another ingredient whose effectiveness has not been demonstrated and is trying to add another 20 years of monopoly. In fact, in western countries it has introduced another drug to replace Gleevac.
Irony is, the new patent will not cover just the new drug but the old compound as well. So the generic company cannot manufacture the old drug which is past the patent period!
Another glimmick is the huge RnD costs involved. Well science is not a bucket case in today's world. In whole wide world, the various universities, most of them public funded ones keep researching on new drug possiblities and line of action mechanisms. These research published in well known publications are used as a ground to develop new drugs. In short, it is the whole world, more so the western world, funding the research and not just a particular company. For a company to claim such strange monopoly by patent laws, they actually need to have people with no prior education and no access to common knowledge pool of humanity and still they will have a prior art manifestation in their hands.
The propoganda of patent is getting more absurd by the day. A tool to protect the poor innovator is now a giant shield for the most powerful and a sword to kill. Literally in this case."
 
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I know this is old news but i think this is relevant to this tread and worth mentioning.

Increasing number of countries adopting Indian IP laws for drug manufacturing
In a bid to produce the generic versions of the popular drugs, more and more countries are now adopting India’s intellectual property (IP) laws for drug manufacturing. While many global pharma majors have not supported India in being a little too relaxed in enforcing IP laws but of late, countries like China, Argentina and Philippines are adopting similar laws. For instance, it was during the last month that China made changes to its IP laws that gave a green signal to local companies to produce low-cost versions of the patented drugs in some conditions like meeting public health needs.

As per the global pharma giants, the use of this provision should only be applicable in the case of national emergencies. Coincidentally, it was in March this year that India issued the first compulsory license to Natco which empowered the company to legally manufacture the low-cost version of the Bayer AG’s patented cancer drug – Nexavar. While a one month dosage of Nexavar could cost around Rs. 2.8 lakh ($5,033) making it unaffordable for the poor, the appeal of Bayer is still pending with the intellectual property appellate board.

Since India and China together stand for one-third of the world’s population, it is obvious that both are very critical markets for the MNCs. Realising the importance of India’s IP laws, Argentina announced new guidelines for patents, which among other things listed strict conditions that were very similar to the section 3(D) of the Indian IP Laws (which prevents patent on incremental innovations of known compounds unless they provide enhanced therapeutic efficacy). Similarly, Thailand is also willing to adopt a similar arrangement while Philippines already adopted one.

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That is true. Should the companies share those profits with publicly-funded university programs that they benefit from?

I don't think the (comparatively) poorly paid, hard working researchers were doing it for monopoly profits for themselves or for some private companies. Their output is public good being publicly funded.

I am a fervent defender of patents and intellectual rights. But when it comes to medicine....surely a life is more important than your Mercedes payment. I have a hard time getting worked up about a nation helping the poor to survive.

Its is unfortunate that greed of these companies and executives is allowed to be expressed in pious terms and is taken as truth.
 
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Perhaps a international fund to develop drugs at an affordable cost to all would work.
Thats a nice idea...But india is already leader in making generic drugs...So not interested...
Its better for the whole world to take the drugs manufactured by india...
WIN-WIN for india and world...
 
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Look another important factor here is that india is not violating any WTO guidelines...
So no issue...I worked for a knee implant company in US and i know how much profits these companies get for ever until the patent expires...
I used to work for a company that did heart-valves. They could well afford any legal fees.
 
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The trouble is that if the money incentive did not exist, then nobody would do the research needed to invent new medicines. It's not a clear cut issue, there are ethical questions on both sides of the argument.
They have clearly said it is not for un affordable people.. which is why i am against.. Costing can be easily distributed and the same can be retrieved back .. It is just attitude
 
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They have clearly said it is not for un affordable people.. which is why i am against.. Costing can be easily distributed and the same can be retrieved back .. It is just attitude

Like Bill Gates said, there is more money being spent to cure baldness than Malaria which kills millions of people every year.

Something is rotten out there.
 
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What if they fear that Europeans will also use the generic drugs instead of their high priced ones?

This cant be exported because of IP rights.. so there is no fear of Europeans... it is already un affordable for Indians .. either way they are not making money in this region
 
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I used to work for a company that did heart-valves. They could well afford any legal fees.
The company that i was involved got bankrupted because of a legal case filed by patients...you know what i mean...
 
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How about you people do some research and help the world....instead of waiting for your betters to do it and stealing.

The word stealing is something out of context here.. First it is not for Indians secondly they are not making any money here. Third we cant export outside India. So how do you constitute this has stealing??
 
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Meanwhile something interesting about the company from Reddit . It was one of the Main engines behind Nazi Germany

The Bayer company then became part of IG Farben, a German chemical company conglomerate. During World War II, the IG Farben used slave labor in factories attached to large slave labor camps, notably I.G. Auschwitz, and the sub-camps of the Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp. IG Farben owned 42.5% of the company that manufactured Zyklon B, a chemical used in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and other extermination camps. After World War II, the Allies broke up IG Farben and Bayer reappeared as an individual business. The Bayer executive Fritz ter Meer, sentenced to seven years in prison during the IG Farben Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, was made head of the supervisory board of Bayer in 1956, after his release.
 
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I agree that the prices need to be brought in line (I am not rich). But what the companies claim....that innovation will wither without the promise of riches is true too. A new system needs to be put in place. A international fund for development....along with price controls...may work. Inject plenty of cash at the top with little concern for immediate return...and low cost availability. In the end....the governments would get returns in savings on medical care and longer-living productive citizens.

Yeah u are right.. But any way they are not making any money out of this population right? there should not be any impact
 
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IG-Farben Todays Bayen is also inventor of Zyklon-B, the toxic chemical used to kill millions in gas chambers of concentration camps so its not a surprise something like this coming from its CEO .
 
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Actually India should feel proud that we are making expensive drugs to be cheap...
How can a poor person afford to buy those drugs?
How can third world countries afford them?
Fck you
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Bayer. You can have your market and we will have our market.
But dont show the attitude to Indians
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