@DESERTFOX

[Desert Fox]

I'm another conspiracy theorist

Good to know, but im afraid i don't care.

 

[Desert Fox]

You actually have nothing to refute..because u can't.But don't bother,i have enjoyed thrashing you post by post in thia thread,until i have left u in this pathetic state-nowhere to run and too proud to change his mind.Well when ur hero is hitler and himmler that was always the expected final result.

You recycled your posts. Thrashing?? Not the least

 

[Desert Fox]

So you picked out a newspaper article of one author as 'proof'?

This is from a Toronto, Canadian Newspaper, in which Raul Hilberg, Holocaust scholar, admits there isn't any proof Jews were exterminated using Zyklon-B.

If a Holocaust scholar can admit this than you're entire argument is flawed and has no basis.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Nice to see you're resorting to personal attacks, but what can i expect from a armchair historian.


No shit Sherlock, see now if you had a brain you would know that German transportation bringing food and medicine from industries within Germany had been crippled, thus no medical supplies to cure disease which lead to mass deaths from typhus leading to crude methods of disposing of dead bodies like open air cremations.


But a brainless bloke like yourself couldn't grasp that.

I'm only pointing out the obvious since me -sure i'm a armchair historian-you are a pseudo one.
You are the one thats brainless.
German transportation network was destroyed in the west,that too from 43-44.
Auschwitz was in Poland..far beyond the range of allied bombers.They didn't have the range to disrupt the network in the eastern part from britain and no escort fighters with sufficient range nor was bombing as such attempted except some desperate relief attempts during warsaw uprsing 1944.

 

[he-man]

This is from a Toronto, Canadian Newspaper, in which Raul Hilberg, Holocaust scholar, admits there isn't any proof Jews were exterminated using Zyklon-B.

If a Holocaust scholar can admit this than you're entire argument is flawed and has no basis.

So what do u suggest actually happened??

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

This is from a Toronto, Canadian Newspaper, in which Raul Hilberg, Holocaust scholar, admits there isn't any proof Jews were exterminated using Zyklon-B.

If a Holocaust scholar can admit this than you're entire argument is flawed and has no basis.

No,lolz.Huge quantities were procured from neighbouring IG farben plant for show.Repeated orders.

You recycled your posts. Thrashing?? Not the least

Well u are too inept to answer them,so i have to keep repeating them.Do get around to them.Btw.
Thats how a real discussion is done..point-counterpoint.Not by fleeing.Refute the documents.Simple.

 

[Desert Fox]

So what do u suggest actually happened??

Jews were killed in mass- YES

BUT the intent, methods of killing used, and the actual numbers is quite different from what most people are told.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

So what do u suggest actually happened??

This guy has now resorted to level.He has no arguments left,can't refute the documents-just stalling and trolling..Initially i took this thread as a challenge -now i see i wasted my time .He refuses to answer the documents because he can'ta nd denies everything else as fake.Everything-lolz.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Jews

Jews were killed in mass- YES

BUT the intent, methods of killing used, and the actual numbers is quite different from what most people are told.

Oh not just jews.Get over ur jew obsession.they were only a part of it.

 

[Desert Fox]

No,lolz.Huge quantities were procured from neighbouring IG farben plant for show.Repeated orders.

I'm sure Raul Hilberg was aware of this, and it probably crossed his mind to mention this in front of the judge and jury, but you see this isn't proof Jews were gassed/exterminated using Zyklon-B because not a single corpse showed any trace of Zyklon-B during autopsies. Only a complete moron would use this as "evidence".

 

[he-man]

Jews

Jews were killed in mass- YES

BUT the intent, methods of killing used, and the actual numbers is quite different from what most people are told.

Please post ur estimate,intent and method of killing for us to know

 

[Desert Fox]

I'm only pointing out the obvious since me -sure i'm a armchair historian-you are a pseudo one.

There is no difference between an armchair historian and a pseudo historian genius. I'm certainly not the one proclaiming to be a "think tank" (what a joke, seriously).

You are the one thats brainless.
German transportation network was destroyed in the west,that too from 43-44.
Auschwitz was in Poland..far beyond the range of allied bombers.They didn't have the range to disrupt the network in the eastern part from britain and no escort fighters with sufficient range nor was bombing as such attempted except some desperate relief attempts during warsaw uprsing 1944.

Most German transport was crippled due to lack of fuel and material for remaining operational, the main cause of which was allied bombings of German industries, whether you agree or not due to your egotistic nature, it won't change the facts:

"One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83). Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable. In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis- occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945 broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff)- Incidentally, it is frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol.III, p. 594).

Source: @DESERTFOX | Page 10

 

[Desert Fox]

Please post ur estimate,intent and method of killing for us to know

Everything is already posted within the previous pages of this thread.

 

[Desert Fox]

Oh not just jews.Get over ur jew obsession.they were only a part of it.

At least i'm not the one posting fake quotes, fake images, and concocted documents, contradictory "eyewitness testimonies", and so called "Nazi confessions" extracted through torture as a basis for my arguments.


Seriously, what a joke.

 

[he-man]

Everything is already posted within the previous pages of this thread.

Write it as a summary please,i couldn't follow those long posts.

How many died?
Who killed them?
What killed them?