Deng Xiaopeng pragmatist who modernized China

[oct605032048]

The KMT also did have its left-wing faction, but those pro-socialism members all got wiped out by the military dictatorship of Chiang Kai Shek.

When 常凯申 was young, he was categorized as left win. However he could not bare the far-left communist revolution driven by Moscow and Moscow's comrades within CP.

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Except, your Chinese opinion does not matter to the Chinese Communist Party.

The one who make claim like this apparently knows nothing about China.

 

[oct605032048]

Well, they will have its power and rule regardless anything.

If KMT is stronger, then CCP won't become the ruling party in China.

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No matter what one's attitudes towards CP is, KMT is the loser indeed. Stupid, short-sighted, corrupted, shameless and poorlu-organized. In my opinion it is a true miracle that they could rule Taiwan for that long time.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Mao and his comrades won the civil war (no entirely of course) after all but China falled behind the world after 30 years of continuous revolution.
It is Deng who take charge of this poorly managed situation and gradually lead China into the fast rail of developing.

Of course, Mao also committed a lot of mistakes, and he bears the responsibility for the Sino-Soviet split back in 1960s.

However, he is one who puts China together, and nobody can take his place for that.

 

[oct605032048]

Of course, Mao also committed a lot of mistakes, and he bears the responsibility for the Sino-Soviet split back in 1960s.

However, he is one who puts China together, and nobody can take his place for that.

It is like 明太祖 and 成祖, Hua is 建文.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

When 常凯申 was young, he was categorized as left win. However he could not bare the far-left communist revolution driven by Moscow and Moscow's comrades within CP.

Chiang is not a true left-wing, but Liao Zhongkai is a true left faction of KMT.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It is like 明太祖 and 成祖, Hua is 建文.

Yeah, i think 486（胡锦涛） and 586（习近平） are equivalent to the period of 仁宣之治 of the Ming Dynasty.

 

[oct605032048]

If 常凯申 were not a left wing, Maozi would not let him become the headmaster of 黄埔军校. How and why 常凯申 slided from left to middle then to right is very interesting.

P.S. Liao was murdered by the right wing of KMT at an early stage of the great revolution. If he had not been murdered, I wonder how would he treat CP after the revolutionary army seiged Wuhan? You do remember there was an left-wing and ever-green politician who drafted Dr.Sun's political will. Would Liao make same decision as Wang did?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If 常凯申 were not a left wing, Maozi would not let him become the headmaster of 黄埔军校. How and why 常凯申 slided from left to middle then to right is very interesting.

He was probably central left, but not a left like Liao who was closer to the definition of communism.

 

[below_freezing]

The KMT also did have its left-wing faction, but those pro-socialism members all got wiped out by the military dictatorship of Chiang Kai Shek.

very true. the fascist military dictator Chiang Kai Shek was also a claimed Christian who married a white wannabe, and his son actually did marry a white. This explains his absolute brutality.

 

[no_name]

very true. the fascist military dictator Chiang Kai Shek was also a claimed Christian who married a white wannabe, and his son actually did marry a white. This explains his absolute brutality.

Lol where does that chain of logic came from. The russian wife of Ching Kuo is actually quite low key and doesn't play part in KMT politics.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

very true. the fascist military dictator Chiang Kai Shek was also a claimed Christian who married a white wannabe, and his son actually did marry a white. This explains his absolute brutality.

this does not make sense. In europe, nearly every royal faimilies intermarried with one another.

 

[oct605032048]

常凯申是典型的当婊子还要立牌坊的那种, which I don't like it at all.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

this does not make sense. In europe, nearly every royal faimilies intermarried with one another.

But Chiang is not part of the European royal families.

This intermarriage between the royal families of Europe was served to strengthen their racial alliance, it is pretty much like the current EU, whereas they reject Turkey who is a predominant Muslim nation.

 

[faithfulguy]

We should not deny that Deng has many achievements, but he should not be immune to criticism. This isn't 1960's and all leaders should be critically examined. It is fact that despite his achievements, corruption rose strongly, his own son was corrupt, and his grandson is a US citizen. He also strongly cut the military at a time when relations with the USSR were at their worst and was literally a military dictator who used troops against his own citizens, something that even Hitler and Stalin never did.

Nice to meet you. The Chinese secret police will arrest you by this time tomorrow and no one will know your where about.

 

[below_freezing]

Nice to meet you. The Chinese secret police will arrest you by this time tomorrow and no one will know your where about.

There's no secret police, otherwise Liu Xiaobo would've been disappeared long ago.