Deng Xiaopeng pragmatist who modernized China

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

There's no secret police, otherwise Liu Xiaobo would've been disappeared long ago.

Hehe, I believe in some day in China, Liu will be regarded as hero of this nation. And I am proud of the University of Jilin.

 

[below_freezing]

Hehe, I believe in some day in China, Liu will be regarded as hero of this nation. And I am proud of the University of Jilin.

I think that Liu is a real traitor. You should read what he actually said. He supports the aggressive war in Iraq and unconditionally supports USA. HE says that Chinese need to be colonized for 300 years. This is a true self hating racist and it is perfectly justified to put him in prison.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

Nice to meet you. The Chinese secret police will arrest you by this time tomorrow and no one will know your where about.

We have tens of thousands of naked officials here in China. we know this but we cant do anything becuz the country belongs to the party ha.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We have tens of thousands of naked officials here in China. we know this but we cant do anything becuz the country belongs to the party ha.

Kill those naked officials for sure.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

I think that Liu is a real traitor. You should read what he actually said. He supports the aggressive war in Iraq and unconditionally supports USA. HE says that Chinese need to be colonized for 300 years. This is a true self hating racist and it is perfectly justified to put him in prison.

When you visit Iraq and ask the opionion of the locals, I believe 90% of them dont want to go back to Saddam's times. Dont focus on negative things he said, pay attention to what he did. A coin has two sides. Act like what the party teaches us.haha

 

[below_freezing]

We have tens of thousands of naked officials here in China. we know this but we cant do anything becuz the country belongs to the party ha.

the Party needs to be totally purged, but the main point is, we only have to survive until the collapse of USA. then it wont matter too much what happens to the CPC because its job is done, and if it indeed gets overthrown, enemies of China wont be strong enough to influence the result.

only need to survive as long as CCCP did (72 years) to beat USA, but in China, if a government survives for 一个甲子 then it will survive for at least another 甲子.

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When you visit Iraq and ask the opionion of the locals, I believe 90% of them dont want to go back to Saddam's times. Dont focus on negative things he said, pay attention to what he did. A coin has two sides. Act like what the party teaches us.haha

do you agree that China has to be colonized by British for 300 years? i do not care what Saddam did. The US said that they attack Saddam to find weapons of mass destruction. those weapons were not found. therefore, the US is a dirty liar regime, but does Liu mention this? if "overthrowing a dictator" is the correct way of thinking, well, in Taiwan they used to have the KMT dictatorship, so if China nuked Taiwan, that would be OK, right, because it overthrows their dictator regardless of how many die? South Korea used to have the military dictatorship too, so if China nuked South Korea that is OK too, right?

what did Liu do? He didn't do anything.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

the Party needs to be totally purged, but the main point is, we only have to survive until the collapse of USA. then it wont matter too much what happens to the CPC because its job is done, and if it indeed gets overthrown, enemies of China wont be strong enough to influence the result.

only need to survive as long as CCCP did (72 years) to beat USA, but in China, if a government survives for 一个甲子 then it will survive for at least another 甲子.

I agree that CCP needs to take a break after USA is finished.

But as for now, i am still supporting them no matter what.

Obviously, the rich lords in CCP are fighting the rich lords in USA just to gain more power, it is a dog eating dog World.

However, we choose the dog CCP since its victory will also benefit the Chinese people.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

the Party needs to be totally purged, but the main point is, we only have to survive until the collapse of USA. then it wont matter too much what happens to the CPC because its job is done, and if it indeed gets overthrown, enemies of China wont be strong enough to influence the result.

only need to survive as long as CCCP did (72 years) to beat USA, but in China, if a government survives for 一个甲子 then it will survive for at least another 甲子.

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do you agree that China has to be colonized by British for 300 years? i do not care what Saddam did. The US said that they attack Saddam to find weapons of mass destruction. those weapons were not found. therefore, the US is a dirty liar regime, but does Liu mention this? if "overthrowing a dictator" is the correct way of thinking, well, in Taiwan they used to have the KMT dictatorship, so if China nuked Taiwan, that would be OK, right, because it overthrows their dictator regardless of how many die? South Korea used to have the military dictatorship too, so if China nuked South Korea that is OK too, right?

what did Liu do? He didn't do anything.

Your logic is like this- when north korea dictatorship kills millions of their people and we Chinese just stand by and watch, saying it's not our business because we dont interfere other contry's internal affair?

 

[below_freezing]

I agree that CCP needs to take a break after USA is finished.

But as for now, i am still supporting them no matter what.

Obviously, the rich lords in CCP are fighting the rich lords in USA just to gain more power, it is a dog eating dog World.

However, we choose the dog CCP since its victory will also benefit the Chinese people.

agreed, the defeat of USA and the complete victory of China as the undisputed #1 nation on earth has to be achieved, before CPC can collapse. The Chinese people will not allow CPC to collapse before this happens, and this is proven by the opinion poles. Even CPC is liar when they say that China does not seek hegemony. A government that does not seek hegemony is a bad government, especially for such a large country. We should not blame India too much either, because their government is doing their job.

I don't think that KMT will ever dare compete directly with CPC in elections though I might be surprised. But if CPC falls too soon, the end result will be like Russia, where China shatters like glass, and a Nazi style authoritarian party led by a single strong dictator rises to power in the aftermath, while China's internal situation gets worse.

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Your logic is like this- when north korea dictatorship kills millions of their people and we Chinese just stand by and watch, saying it's not our business because we dont interfere other contry's internal affair?

USA already stood by when Syngman Lee killed 10% of South Koreans in 1 summer and then again in 1980 when the South Korean army shot thousands in Gwangju after cutting power and communications to the city, already stood by when the South Vietnamese butchered their own citizens, supported Pinochet suppress Chileans, support Argentina military dictatorship, support the Marcos dictatorship in Philippines, support Suharto in Indonesia to kill and suppress millions of Chinese, support Bahrain monarchy and Saudi monarchy suppress and kill their own citizens, etc etc.

lets not forget that Saddam himself was also supported by USA, and it was during the time of him getting US support that he killed the most.

We are only learning from the nation Liu loves so much.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

agreed, the defeat of USA and the complete victory of China as the undisputed #1 nation on earth has to be achieved, before CPC can collapse. The Chinese people will not allow CPC to collapse before this happens, and this is proven by the opinion poles. Even CPC is liar when they say that China does not seek hegemony. A government that does not seek hegemony is a bad government, especially for such a large country. We should not blame India too much either, because their government is doing their job.

I don't think that KMT will ever dare compete directly with CPC in elections though I might be surprised. But if CPC falls too soon, the end result will be like Russia, where China shatters like glass, and a Nazi style authoritarian party led by a single strong dictator rises to power in the aftermath, while China's internal situation gets worse.

I don't care NO. 1 or No. 2. for me, they are all bullshiit. Pls care about the people. When Mogols ruled China, the country is so big but the country was a hell of Han Chinese. so if the CCP China is top 1 country in the world but its people are suffering. Top 1 means nothing

 

[below_freezing]

I don't care NO. 1 or No. 2. for me, they are all bullshiit. Pls care about the people. When Mogols ruled China, the country is so big but the country was a hell of Han Chinese. so if the CCP China is top 1 country in the world but its people are suffering. Top 1 means nothing

are you personally suffering like in the Mongol days?

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

agreed, the defeat of USA and the complete victory of China as the undisputed #1 nation on earth has to be achieved, before CPC can collapse. The Chinese people will not allow CPC to collapse before this happens, and this is proven by the opinion poles. Even CPC is liar when they say that China does not seek hegemony. A government that does not seek hegemony is a bad government, especially for such a large country. We should not blame India too much either, because their government is doing their job.

I don't think that KMT will ever dare compete directly with CPC in elections though I might be surprised. But if CPC falls too soon, the end result will be like Russia, where China shatters like glass, and a Nazi style authoritarian party led by a single strong dictator rises to power in the aftermath, while China's internal situation gets worse.

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USA already stood by when Syngman Lee killed 10% of South Koreans in 1 summer and then again in 1980 when the South Korean army shot thousands in Gwangju after cutting power and communications to the city, already stood by when the South Vietnamese butchered their own citizens, supported Pinochet suppress Chileans, support Argentina military dictatorship, support the Marcos dictatorship in Philippines, support Suharto in Indonesia to kill and suppress millions of Chinese, support Bahrain monarchy and Saudi monarchy suppress and kill their own citizens, etc etc.

lets not forget that Saddam himself was also supported by USA, and it was during the time of him getting US support that he killed the most.

We are only learning from the nation Liu loves so much.

You mean we should act like USA. If they do disgusting things so we should learn from them? If China really wants to be top 1, so set up our own moral laws.

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are you personally suffering like in the Mongol days?

I will not say the same but Almost.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

agreed, the defeat of USA and the complete victory of China as the undisputed #1 nation on earth has to be achieved, before CPC can collapse. The Chinese people will not allow CPC to collapse before this happens, and this is proven by the opinion poles. Even CPC is liar when they say that China does not seek hegemony. A government that does not seek hegemony is a bad government, especially for such a large country. We should not blame India too much either, because their government is doing their job.

I don't think that KMT will ever dare compete directly with CPC in elections though I might be surprised. But if CPC falls too soon, the end result will be like Russia, where China shatters like glass, and a Nazi style authoritarian party led by a single strong dictator rises to power in the aftermath, while China's internal situation gets worse.

I think many people in China also do realize this no matter how they are getting angry with CCP.

After defeating USA, China will obviously be the Hyperpower and CCP will become the most powerful entity in the World.

Then they will have to face two choices, either to leave the World free or keep enslaved the World like the US did.

I am afraid that CCP may become arrogant after defeating USA, since the absolute power can even corrupt the most nice human being.

So they needs to go after their mission is accomplished, and China will become fully democratic after all. The World will also enjoy the freedom and harmony.

 

[below_freezing]

You mean we should act like USA. If they do disgusting things so we should learn from them? If China really wants to be top 1, so set up our own loral laws.


I will not say the same but Almost.

But Liu Xiaobo supports USA unconditionally, so he supports this. He supports the supporting dictatorships if they increase the benefit to USA. China supports no dictatorships except North Korea, but I can name 3 dictatorships off the top my head that USA supports: Kuwait, Saudi, UAE. In history, USA also supported South Korean military dictatorship, Argentina military dictatorship, Greek military dictatorship, Suharto, Marcos, Augusto Pinochet, etc.

If you feel like China is that bad, and you are suffering, do you think Thailand is much superior?

Or if you move to another country with similar GDP/capita, will your life be much superior?

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

But Liu Xiaobo supports USA unconditionally, so he supports this. He supports the supporting dictatorships if they increase the benefit to USA. China supports no dictatorships except North Korea, but I can name 3 dictatorships off the top my head that USA supports: Kuwait, Saudi, UAE. In history, USA also supported South Korean military dictatorship, Argentina military dictatorship, Greek military dictatorship, Suharto, Marcos, Augusto Pinochet, etc.

If you feel like China is that bad, and you are suffering, do you think Thailand is much superior?

Or if you move to another country with similar GDP/capita, will your life be much superior?

The most improtant is that China supports himself. the biggest one. ha